Anyone else not gaf about the opinions of other somali people (especially fobs)?

[caanoshaah]

Especially as woman like….

Do yall ever notice Somalis get 1 billion times more angry at the mere THOUGHT of a woman not wearing a hijab or dating someone or blablabla than the objective FACT that somali men (not all but WAYY TOO MANY) join gangs, do drugs, kill each other etc????? It’s very fascinating how the former is talked about on the daily but the latter will be met with crickets and it’s exactly why idgaf what Somalis think like this is some low iq tribal mentality… control the women and let the men act like monkeys

like I’m a woman I don’t wear a hijab, I wear leggings and have a bf yall won’t believe the way Somalis stare me the hell DOWN in public even though am I doing anything wrong? Am I hurting anyone??? NOPE but yall wouldn’t believe the way these Somalis be staring me tf down like they’re about to catch me committing a murder or selling drugs and it’s sooooo funny to me that very likely could be just what their son, nephew or cousin is doing at that very moment…. but they wanna watch me ????? I’m flattered

 

[caanoshaah]

If Somalis stared down men for their slight misbehaviours they way they stared at me I guarantee you somalia would become a first world country overnight

Because you see one thing to know about the world is every culture has this concept of watching over others too, but just in different ways, for example cadaan people do it to each other to the max actually but guess in what context…. they exert their “watchfulness” by how they abide the rules of their workplace/job tf etc, that’s why cadaan societies are very stable because if even ONE mf tries to screw you over they will be willing to go through even 10 years in court to get their dues over it

Somalis dgaf about “watching” others in the context of working, but in the context of “following the culture/religion” and sorry the way Somalis are applying it is not conducive to a developed and advanced society because they still do bribery, have so much corruption etc back home, my point is I actually don’t have an innate problem with Somalis watching me or anyone else for that matter but just the context is so ridiculous and unproductive is my point

 

[Kalsoon]

Main character ayaa isku maleesaa. That's why I intentionally ignore people who appear similar to you.

If you are not insecure about who you are and what you're doing, then don't pay them any attention. They have free will just like you do. You can't shame them from using their eyes in public nonetheless just like they can't shame you for your lifestyle.

qof qaawan oo isla quman wax ka daran ma jiraa horta yaab

 

[balanbalis]

Main character ayaa isku maleesaa. That's why I intentionally ignore people who appear similar to you.

If you are not insecure about who you are and what you're doing, then don't pay them any attention. They have free will just like you do. You can't shame them from using their eyes in public nonetheless just like they can't shame you for your lifestyle.

qof qaawan oo isla quman wax ka daran ma jiraa horta yaab

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[Espaa_]

Theres a story that reminds me of this

there is a guy and a donkey and a son. One day the father and the son and the donkey were walking on the road. The people jeered and stared until one man told him “put your son on the donkey, why are you making him walk”. So the man put his son on the donkey.

they continued walking until a group of men stared and jeered at the boy until one man told him “look at that boy on the donkey while he makes his father walk”. So the father ordered his son to get off and got on himself

But they hadn't gone far when they passed two women and one woman told the other "Shame on that lazy man to let his poor little son trudge along." So the father ordered the boy to get on the donkey.

By this time they had come to the town, and the passersby began to jeer and point at them. The men said, "Aren't you ashamed of yourself for overloading and hurting the back of that poor donkey of yours with you and your hulking son?"

moral of this story is to please yourself because people are always going to be unsatisfied regardless. Live how you want to live because people have spite and judgement in them. Somalis are very overfamiliar with each other. Make yourself happy always and put yourself first

 

[Kalsoon]

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Free will again

Judge women for their appearance? Fadlan stop trying to control the public's eyes and naftaada ka adkow. Are you confident in yourself and how you dress? Then they shouldn't bother you. Reality is everyone is judging you in public whether you like it or not. Some just know how to manipulate their faces and expressions so it doesn't show.

the Somali sons? That's trauma speaking wll don't generalize us all

 

[balanbalis]

Free will again

Judge women for their appearance? Fadlan stop trying to control the public's eyes and naftaada ka adkow. Are you confident in yourself and how you dress? Then they shouldn't bother you. Reality is everyone is judging you in public whether you like it or not. Some just know how to manipulate their faces and expressions so it doesn't show.

the Somali sons? That's trauma speaking wll don't generalize us all

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[Kalsoon]

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Woman shaming doesn't work here sis. I can be a woman annd have my own views and opinions. We don't all have be a hive mind.

It can be rude definitely but dwelling on that fact won't change it. You dress more mainstream than I do. But I don't care what people think Somali or otherwise. I know why I wear what I wear and those people don't pay my bills or hold the keys to jannah for me.

 

[Nur_]

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[Shayla]

Especially as woman like….

Do yall ever notice Somalis get 1 billion times more angry at the mere THOUGHT of a woman not wearing a hijab or dating someone or blablabla than the objective FACT that somali men (not all but WAYY TOO MANY) join gangs, do drugs, kill each other etc????? It’s very fascinating how the former is talked about on the daily but the latter will be met with crickets and it’s exactly why idgaf what Somalis think like this is some low iq tribal mentality… control the women and let the men act like monkeys

like I’m a woman I don’t wear a hijab, I wear leggings and have a bf yall won’t believe the way Somalis stare me the hell DOWN in public even though am I doing anything wrong? Am I hurting anyone??? NOPE but yall wouldn’t believe the way these Somalis be staring me tf down like they’re about to catch me committing a murder or selling drugs and it’s sooooo funny to me that very likely could be just what their son, nephew or cousin is doing at that very moment…. but they wanna watch me ????? I’m flattered

I agree largely with your sentiment.

Laakin, I have zero issues with non-hijabi Somali girls. Most of the time when I see them I think good for you.

However, I noticed from their demeanour that they think I'm judging them for not wearing hijab. When it really I'm not.

So I feel sometimes they can be a bit paranoid.

 

[The alchemist]

You're really surprised Muslims look at you weird for presenting yourself differently than what is expected. Some of you think we're Western people or something. If a guy walks around with alcohol and a woman, he will be stared at and judged, and if he has common decency and taqwa left, he will feel shame showing his ways in front of decent people.

I used to do dirt in the past, but I was extremely mindful to try to never show it to people I know because I never want it to reflect on me or my family or disappoint the Somalis' good view of me (because you're letting your people down). Do you understand? This is how someone with a common moral barometer wants.

Also, you said more bullshit. Hoodlums are looked at as the shame and black sheep by others. What kind of idiot are you to think that is accepted among Somalis? I was caught smoking weed as a teenager, and adults started treating me differently. Males who do bad are treated like indirect outcasts, the love gets fake, although it was real before. Adults I used to look up to suddenly showed me different eyes when they faked greetings; I could see they forced themselves to greet me. The love me, my brother and used to get was almost exclusively channeled to my brother by some people of the community. The love of the majority of the adults is gone once they associate you with bad behavior. So please spare me the women are policed and men live in a thug life paradise. It's bullshit. Any guy who has had a colorful background will tell you this.

In fact many boys, after doing their first crime and being caught, they get socially ostracized and not fully embraced again because of that stigma imprint, so they embrace their gangs more because those are the only guys that accept them; it's like coping. This is well known in social studies and anthropology. I studied this in high school. Part of why criminals struggle to get back into normal life is because of how the rest of the world perceives them and shuts them out. These are males. Being an OF star in the West is more accepted than being a male criminal by far.

The reason why trouble-making teen males never speak on this is that it is weak. So you say, f*ck em, I don't need them anyway. But the thing is, it uproots your ecosystem. You're left to mature earlier, while some people can't cope, so they go increasingly into vices and crime. Social ostracism is extremely strong among men, for sure. It is extremely easy to become jaded by social ties and people after that, but one has to maintain and build their life. If you maintain, grow, eventually, you become a respectable community person.

Part of holding society's morals is definitely shame, looks, and judgment. It's natural. Without those checks and balances, you will degrade in morality quickly because there is no cost to bad behavior. That is why Japan is extremely well functioning, and people behave because the shame is extreme.

But simply giving you the eye for dressing indecently is normal and should be there as well for flaunting you're doing zina among Muslims. If it is not, it means we as a society are not decent and are lost. You need standards of conduct, and our standards are not the cadaans standards. If they were, we would be them and not us. It's important to keep those delineations clear.

People should be able to make mistakes, but it becomes wicked when people like you or criminals expect the rest of society to accept your deviance while you practice it with that damn shameless audacity. Once we do, we have moved the standards where our children can do it without us saying a word and bring them up in social conditions where they will be increasingly primed for such behavior, turning out like the West. Where the concept of modesty is completely gone.

I used to do dirt, but I would never show it to the aunties or the uncles of the community. I respected them, and respected my image, although I did not have enough self-respect to not engage in the lifestyle I did during my earlier years. But I knew I was wrong and would never swing my dick around them and then say accept this or you're terrible. That is just some devilish behavior. People care about the community and the environment their kids grow up in, and they also care about you, because they see their daughters in you. How we see society is not like how cadaans do. That is something to cherish. Part of why you also post this is because you do feel shame. Otherwise, you would relish in it like most wicked do. You should want your people to see you as an upright person and be proud of who you are, and that comes with a commitment to do the behavior associated with it, not holding hands with Indians on the street, having no 'awrah. Otherwise, you can move to an exclusively cadaan area, only relate with people who accept such behavior but is that really what anybody wants? There is a trade-off in life. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Rayaale]

Here we go again, another Somali men bashing