Am i the only somali that gets hurt seeing non muslim somalis?
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My interaction with non Muslim users here is usually non deen related topics. I never said I support them leaving Islam. The truth is, my support or non of doesn't change anything about their lives. I just respect people choices to exercise their free will as long as they are not harming others..
My statement was in regards to the original post. Besides, my duty to remind is towards my fellow muslims first and foremost
وَذَكِّرۡ فَإِنَّ ٱلذِّكۡرَىٰ تَنفَعُ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنِینَ ٥
We are the followers of the religion of peace after all..
You are actually commiting dhulm by generalizing all somalis who left Islam as "not being normal" and saying they are undeserving of basic human decency ie respect.
Why are somalis who leave Islam the worst compared to non somalis who never become muslims? You and the others only say this because you see their actions as the ultimate betrayal. This is no different from how the quraysh during Jahilliyah period were attacking early muslims for leaving the religion of their forefathers. Saying things like they are not somali, discrediting their opinions in other threads, calling them names unprovoked, constant bullying and now openly threatening their lives. Seriously?!
Islam is not a CULT.
There is no compulsion in this deen..
Also, reality is such that there is alot of reasons why people leave religions. For some, it is theological reasons, for others it might be trauma and injustices they suffered due to horrible cultural practices masked as religion. Some leave to follow their worldly desires too, unfortunately.. And where do those who were born into a Muslim household but were never taught Islam fall? Would them leaving Islam be considered apostasy if they were never taught the true deen and are just products of their environment?
May Allah increase our critical thinking and protect us from arrogance..
You don’t have the ability to remove them from the fold in the first place.Dw man, we're gaalo but we don't proselytise. I have no intention of removing muslims from the fold, nor do I advertise my gaalnimo
Somalis reaction towards me is basically like how a straight ally is trying to console a VERY closeted homosexual to come out. Despite wearing crosses & catholic Manila head veil, I always mistaken as Muslim and have experienced a lot Islamophobia. What I mean is that my Somali grandpa still practiced mostly Sunni Islam/Waaqism but just slapped a Christian aesthetic to get better jobs/less discrimination. It’s very similar to how African slaves transplants in Haiti needed, at least, to keep up an outward appearance of submitting to the Christianity imposed on them by the colonial authorities. But in reality, they remained steadfastly faithful to their own native religions and spiritual practices, so they disguised the lwa as Catholic saints in their rituals and iconography.
He also chose specifically Catholicism out of spite because he really, really, really didn’t want to do it . At the time, Anti-Catholicism was widespread in the 1920s; anti-Catholics, led by the Ku Klux Klan, believed that Catholicism was incompatible with democracy.
Branford Clarke illustration in The Ku Klux Klan in Prophecy 1925 by Bishop Alma White published by the Pillar of Fire Church in Zarephath, NJ. Plus, Black American Catholics are extremely rare, outside Louisiana & Florida. Only about six percent of the Black American population is catholic currently.
My father felt very guilty about not Muslim and told me that he felt like a traitor to his people. I feel like my case is different because they were in a time where persecution during the 1930s and 1940s found their efforts thwarted by the United States’ restrictive immigration quotas and the complicated, demanding requirements for obtaining visas. During the time, my grandfather “converted “ German immigrants in the US suffered harassment, internment, lynchings - and even the humiliation of being tarred and feathered.
Atheists worship Satan. That is what people need to understand about these group of people.
How old is she now? Does your sis make an effort to connect with your mom now?
Satan ain't paying my bills so I rather not.
Nope, she avoids her like the plague after the abuse she went through by my mom. she is 21 and going to college.
Adam Weishaupt
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To be honest it’s sad too like I can never in my life be Christian or any other religion other then Islam for one reason, our ancestors where the earlier and first Muslims even before the whole of Arabia one of oldest mosque on earth is in north Somalia 1400 years old.
and lastly our ancestor even before last message and Islam where-never pagans or idol worshippers this one of reason it was perfect and easy to accept Islam, we believed in 1 god without images or idols and no partners and no sons or daughters. Fun fact if you go to Ethiopia there are tribes that still practice waaqafenna around 1 million people still practice our old religion. So why on earth would I forsake a monotheistic religion for Christianity that is basically idol worship and takes a human being as god and also trinity where god is in 3 forms even my lost ancestors didn’t go that low or misguided. I would rather go back to waaqenna than any other religion, Islam is perfect and truly the message of every prophet sent from God.
and lastly our ancestor even before last message and Islam where-never pagans or idol worshippers this one of reason it was perfect and easy to accept Islam, we believed in 1 god without images or idols and no partners and no sons or daughters. Fun fact if you go to Ethiopia there are tribes that still practice waaqafenna around 1 million people still practice our old religion. So why on earth would I forsake a monotheistic religion for Christianity that is basically idol worship and takes a human being as god and also trinity where god is in 3 forms even my lost ancestors didn’t go that low or misguided. I would rather go back to waaqenna than any other religion, Islam is perfect and truly the message of every prophet sent from God.
Adam Weishaupt
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I don’t get it so what are you if you’re not Muslim?Dw man, we're gaalo but we don't proselytise. I have no intention of removing muslims from the fold, nor do I advertise my gaalnimo
Adam Weishaupt
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So are you Christian or atheist ?
Adam Weishaupt
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So how come you’re still Christian? Your Somali ancestors before Islam were on straighter path than modern Christians who are idol worshippers and associate partners with the 1 true god. Christian’s are not followers of Jesus but Paul, your ancestors worshiped one God called Waaq which means god in Cushitic, they never had images of God nor did they believe god could have son or daughter or partners, so your basically not only a traitor to your people today but also the ones before Islam you bow to constructive religion of white god which was used to purge and colonise our land and contient.
So she still lives at home and is openly gaal?
I’ve thought about it. I’m not around ACTUAL Muslims. Just nutty Nation of Islam heretics that loves to tell me that I’m an evil Hamite
It's me hence the #2 couldn't log in to my old.
Adam Weishaupt
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where you born a Christian?
