Am i the only somali that gets hurt seeing non muslim somalis?

[Omar del Sur]

I also want to mention that it is important not to love non-Muslims.

Abdullah ibn Mas’ud reported: A man came to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, and he said, “O Messenger of Allah, what do you say about a man who loves a people but his deeds do not compare to theirs?” The Prophet said, “A person will be with those whom he loves.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 5817, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2641

Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim

 

[Dualke]

Mf I don't even live near somalis, besides why would someone start a conversation about how much they disagree with a religion to a person they just met ? Aside from family and friends there is no need to share your personal beliefs with others you're not close to, it's common sense... you hate when atheists are "loud and annoying" about their beliefs yet at the same breath want them to be vocal about it, please use logic because I am genuinely flabbergasted.

I dont understand why some of yall are so obsessed with somali gaals, most don't even have an online presence. focus on things that actually effect the somali community instead of stressing about a small minority most of you won't even interact with.

It's possible for somalis to focus on both gaalnimo and other aspects that effect the Somali community, stop peddling this mutually exclusive BS because it's not true.
Anyhow I'm not obsessed with Somali gaals I hardly even talk about them on here

 

[Omar del Sur]

I also just want to elaborate... it's not that I'm saying people should be mean or rude to non-Muslims. But any idea that Muslims should hold hands and sing kumbaya and be buddy buddy with non-Muslims is really wrong and dangerous. This is a way for non-Muslims to manipulate Muslims and lead them in wrong directions.

 

[Halimo-2018]

You care because they’re your fellow humans that’s fine however Allah said no compulsion in religion we all have a choice. May Allah guide us

 

[Hodan from HR]

Enjoin the good and forbid the evil.

I'm just saying... some of the mindset that's being advocated... if it's someone's particular mindset they're free to think like that but I think Islam is different than the mindset that's being advocated.

I also just want to elaborate... it's not that I'm saying people should be mean or rude to non-Muslims. But any idea that Muslims should hold hands and sing kumbaya and be buddy buddy with non-Muslims is really wrong and dangerous. This is a way for non-Muslims to manipulate Muslims and lead them in wrong directions.

I am saying the same things walal.

I expect others to respect my deen and so I should respect their beliefs. To live and to let live. Lakum deenukum waliya deen.. etc


I try to put myself in people's shoes and treat them the way I'd like to be treated. For example; It is my choice to be Muslim and so I'd be annoyed if my Buddhist coworker was preachy and tried to convert me everytime we interacted. It would make me think she does not think I can make sound judgement on my own about the religion I choose to follow. I would also feel like my ability to exercise my free will is being stripped away. The end result being I end up distancing myself from Buddhists and their beliefs..


I am neither indifferent to those who leave Islam nor don't want to enjoin good. My approach of enjoining good is to give dawah with my akhlaq/character. Be kind, be respectful and acknowledge their choice to exercise their free will.

This is MY opinion

 

[yasmeen]

It's possible for somalis to focus on both gaalnimo and other aspects that effect the Somali community, stop peddling this mutually exclusive BS because it's not true.
Anyhow I'm not obsessed with Somali gaals I hardly even talk about them on here

This is something that I tried to put my finger on. I don’t have any desire to live among Somalis for my entire life. They know that. I don’t want to force myself on them. I don’t want to change their minds about their beliefs.

I care about my community but I can care and love from a distance? Is that really something that is so hard to comprehend? My life is so detached from theirs. I don’t know why I can’t form my own opinions and concerns without them getting triggered. I am Somali too.

 

[TheLastWaryaa]

You will notice most tend to be female, this dunya can easily mislead people.

 

[Ozymandias]

Dw man, we're gaalo but we don't proselytise. I have no intention of removing muslims from the fold, nor do I advertise my gaalnimo

 

[Keep it a boqol]

everyone’s accountable for their own actions in the end of the day. wish them the best, make sincere dua and keep it moving

 

[Abbondanzieri1]

that's exactly how i felt when i watched this video, i felt quite sad ngl

 

[Gacmeey]

You will notice most tend to be female, this dunya can easily mislead people.

Not surprising tho. Women are easily influenced compared to men

 

[Ozymandias]

Not surprising tho. Women are easily influenced compared to men

There is no influence sxb. Can't people think for themselves and assess the teachings and information disseminated to them. This includes all parts of life not just concerning religion. If people believe in something that I don't believe in, then cool. I'll respect it. That's all it is truly.

 

[mohammdov]

Let them go to hell, no problem

 

[Ozymandias]

I can't remember the last time I've thought about religion tbh. Good luck to folks out there

 

[Gacmeey]

There is no influence sxb. Can't people think for themselves and assess the teachings and information disseminated to them. This includes all parts of life not just concerning religion. If people believe in something that I don't believe in, then cool. I'll respect it. That's all it is truly.

You are lying to yourself if you think there isn’t some degree of influence coming from western society. This doesn’t mean you haven’t critically analysed all the information given to you, but it does mean you perceive it through your western tinted glasses compared to someone brought up in a Muslim country who is seeing it from a Muslim’s point of view.

 

[Ozymandias]

You are lying to yourself if you think there isn’t some degree of influence coming from western society. This doesn’t mean you haven’t critically analysed all the information given to you, but it does mean you perceive it through your western tinted glasses compared to someone brought up in a Muslim country who is seeing it from a Muslim’s point of view.

Yes, but my views are constantly upgrading in tandem with new information. I'm constantly assessing my beliefs. That's a key part of critical thinking, I don't accept something at face value, that's why religion is not something I can implement in my own life. I agree that we are all influenced to some degree.

 

[Man with a garuun]

As long as they don't head back home, I could care less about them. Let them die in the diaspora.

 

[Hamzza]

I remember reading the tafsir of this verse and it specifically says that the word deenakum does not only apply to religion like popular translation implys. It also means people have a choice to their judgements and decision when it comes to belief.


The severe legal punishments is for those who publicly declare their apostasy and want to cause fitna in Muslim countries. I live in the west where many religions and people with different beliefs coexist. It is hypocritical to expect others to respect my freedom of worship when I discriminate those who choose to leave Islam. It beats the whole purpose of having "freedom". Same reason we are taught to not insult or disrespect other religions for they will curse/disrespect Allah and Prophet Muhammad pbuh in retaliation.



Muslims and non muslims are not equal in the eyes of Allah. That does not mean we dont treated them with basic human decency since we are not guaranteed we will die as muslims or they as non-Muslims.

Be humble for hidaya is from Allah.
And if you truly care about them not ending up in hellfire and finding their way back to Islam, the least you can do is be kind and respectful. All these rudeness and disrespect does is drive them further away from Islam and you might carry that sin..

Being able to practice you Deen in a Gaal nation doesn't mean or necessitate that you support that which is prohibited in islam and Allah hates. The least thing you should do is hate them and their actions from heart if you can't express your dislike for them n public.

Apostates are not normal non-Muslims and shouldn't be treated with any respect, for they didn't respect Allah and his prophet and make fun of us believers even here in Sspot

Allah ﷻ said:

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وَقَدْ نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الْكِتَابِ أَنْ إِذَا سَمِعْتُمْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ يُكْفَرُ بِهَا وَيُسْتَهْزَأُ بِهَا فَلا تَقْعُدُوا مَعَهُمْ حَتَّى يَخُوضُوا فِي حَدِيثٍ غَيْرِهِ إِنَّكُمْ إِذاً مِثْلُهُمْ​

And it has already been revealed to you in the Book that when you hear the verses of Allah being denied and mocked at, then sit not with them, until they engage in talk other than that; certainly in that case you would be like them.

The Ayah means, if you still commit this prohibition after being aware of its prohibition, sitting with them where Allah's Ayat are rejected, mocked at and denied, and you sanction such conduct, then you have participated with them in what they are doing.

By saying:

I've seen people justifying there rude behaviors towards users that are not muslims here.

You're sanctioning @SonOfMaverick mockery of Islam

Haters gonna hate, we can't control that. If you want to be a slave and prostrate to a pagan moon god called Allah, I ain't gonna stop you.

 

[GemState]

Many fail to understand Islam is an ethnic marker. Islam is their ethnic identity. To be a Turk, or a Somali, Hausa, Persian or a Malay, or a host of other Islamic peoples, is to be a Muslim.

 

[Dualke]

This is something that I tried to put my finger on. I don’t have any desire to live among Somalis for my entire life. They know that. I don’t want to force myself on them. I don’t want to change their minds about their beliefs.

I care about my community but I can care and love from a distance? Is that really something that is so hard to comprehend? My life is so detached from theirs. I don’t know why I can’t form my own opinions and concerns without them getting triggered. I am Somali too.

I'm not talking about you or malab specifically, anyone has the right to live their lifestyle however the emergence of gaalnimo is ultimately an inhibitory factor on the Somali community