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Basra

LOVE is a product of Doqoniimo mixed with lust
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The FAKE brand China wants to rule Electric car industry! Just saw it on 60 minutes. Walaahi this fake country is amazing. U have to give its due. There was a white man in the show who said he was in China since late 1980s, and he saw the Chinese in dire poverty, no cars, walking bare feet to now, creating electric cars.


He says the government controls the capitalism. Maybe this is what Somalia needs????? or the entire African Continent maybe? Since we know Africans fair well in strict government rules than say the western style democracy.




My general overall opinion about the rise of China is that it is good for the world order. We need competition, globally. America needs a second best nation to stabilize the universe. Its better that way .Its like we need a fake and a real economy to balance the world. Balance is good!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electric-cars-chinas-drive-to-dominate-the-industry-60-minutes/
 

Gibiin-Udug

Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
I felt bad so I'm commenting on your dry, meaningless thread eedo. Never ever say I never did anything for you.

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Tukraq

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We don’t need strict government but open markets, however like China we should banish the concept of plagiarism, and copy all these ideas and implement them ourselves
 

4head

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First of all, we need a more regulated country. Laws should be respected. Then, we should keep clans and tribes but as for folk. Nothing crazy, just like in Japan. There are still clans. But just for the "tradition". And then we need to educate girls,boys and secure our country. Planning new towns, with modern tech and plans! Modernization of Mogadishu will be important because it is the capital of the country. Federalism just like in the US is suitable for Somalia. Clans , even the minority ethnic somali clans will be heard.

So in my opinion ; free market+more education (no more 68 IQ)+less of clans wars+securing the borders+reforming the State, adopting the American Federalism and a constitution.
It is possible and it will take years of work but we can do this.
 

Basra

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I felt bad so I'm commenting on your dry, meaningless thread eedo. Never ever say I never did anything for you.

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Thank u eedo. Aunty is very thankful, I dont even have anything hateration to say too. Mashlaaah u bring the best out of me!
 

Basra

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We don’t need strict government but open markets, however like China we should banish the concept of plagiarism, and copy all these ideas and implement them ourselves


Soooo....u r basically wanting to make Somalis techno pirates??? this is outrageous & un-Islamic may I remind u! lol
 

Basra

LOVE is a product of Doqoniimo mixed with lust
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First of all, we need a more regulated country. Laws should be respected. Then, we should keep clans and tribes but as for folk. Nothing crazy, just like in Japan. There are still clans. But just for the "tradition". And then we need to educate girls,boys and secure our country. Planning new towns, with modern tech and plans! Modernization of Mogadishu will be important because it is the capital of the country. Federalism just like in the US is suitable for Somalia. Clans , even the minority ethnic somali clans will be heard.

So in my opinion ; free market+more education (no more 68 IQ)+less of clans wars+securing the borders+reforming the State, adopting the American Federalism and a constitution.
It is possible and it will take years of work but we can do this.


5head

Totally agree. Laws. Education. & Free Market.


I feel like no African nation is built for free market where u have crash every 7 years lol but they have famine & disaster every 7 years too. I feel like China controlling the free market while giving its citizen social services like housing, medicare etc etc will be good for Somalis
 

4head

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5head

Totally agree. Laws. Education. & Free Market.


I feel like no African nation is built for free market where u have crash every 7 years lol but they have famine & disaster every 7 years too. I feel like China controlling the free market while giving its citizen social services like housing, medicare etc etc will be good for Somalis

Yeah! i forgot about the Chinese..We need to get rid of our debts to the Chinese. Otherwise, we won't build anything! China is wise and smart, they know their thing and we sure have to learn from them but i don't want us to be totally dependent to the Chinese. Less debts of our national budget, more education and less regulated market and we need to secure our borders.
 

Basra

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Yeah! i forgot about the Chinese..We need to get rid of our debts to the Chinese. Otherwise, we won't build anything! China is wise and smart, they know their thing and we sure have to learn from them but i don't want us to be totally dependent to the Chinese. Less debts of our national budget, more education and less regulated market and we need to secure our borders.


Isnt Somalia paying its debt by giving out its port? Berbera port is gone. Isaaqs are L
 

Tukraq

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Soooo....u r basically wanting to make Somalis techno pirates??? this is outrageous & un-Islamic may I remind u! lol
That’s not haram, knowledge belongs to the believer where ever he may find it according to Islam, heck the golden age was all about stealing ideas from India Greece Rome China and Persia
 
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Puffin Stuff

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The government has business on a tight leash. Flooding other nations economies with cheap goods makes China a unreliable trade partner.
 

Basra

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The government has business on a tight leash. Flooding other nations economies with cheap goods makes China a unreliable trade partner.


Exactly! that's why I think China on a long term will never survive. Their foundation is built of plagiarism, fake goods, fake government. Envy of USA


Its ok to be inspired by other or copy cat but to a healthy level. China is a vampire.
 

Gibiin-Udug

Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
Thank u eedo. Aunty is very thankful, I dont even have anything hateration to say too. Mashlaaah u bring the best out of me!
What's wrong?

Why are you being so nice?

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First, I want to make this clear. What I say about China are descriptive claims. And then I suggest realistic normative claims out from this in how we should position ourselves according to their rise. It's not about whether I like them or not.

That nation is going to become a big player in the world economy in the coming years, regardless of our biases. They have been the largest single contributor to world growth since the global financial crisis of 2008. And what I'm saying is, let's be on their good side and make a good relationship without being cucked. Let's not borrow unrealistically, and we good.

The country's economic system has been so effective, and flexible it has taken out more than 800 million people out of poverty.

This was only possible because they changed their economic strategy in 1978, from a centrally planned to a more market-based economy.

China's growth rate has been 10% consistently ever since. No one had ever shown such growth ever in history. And the west wouldn't pull it off with their current monetary policies.

China has something they call five-year plans. One plan established for the entire country normally contains detailed economic development guidelines for all its regions. In order to more accurately reflect China's transition from a Soviet-style planned economy to a socialist market economy (socialism with Chinese characteristics).

The nation is also facing many issues. Rapid economic ascendance has brought on many challenges as well, including high inequality; rapid urbanization; challenges to environmental sustainability; and external imbalances. China also faces demographic pressures related to an aging population and the internal migration of labor. Their per capita income is still a fraction compared to the advanced countries.

This is the reason why the Central Comite and the national congresses are making detailed plans every 5 years on how to tackle these specific issues, mapping strategies for economic development, setting growth targets, and launching reforms.

It's a socialist concept. China has a grand plan to move to a socialist utopia through different stages where they change economic, social, cultural and political philosophy according to the age they live in. In this current period, they recognize that participating in the free market is necessary to reach that goal.
 
5head

Totally agree. Laws. Education. & Free Market.


I feel like no African nation is built for free market where u have crash every 7 years lol but they have famine & disaster every 7 years too. I feel like China controlling the free market while giving its citizen social services like housing, medicare etc etc will be good for Somalis
African nations lack well-functioning institutions to regulate the free market. A free market fluctuates and needs to be controlled to a degree.

Somalia, like many other African nations, don't have a functioning centralized banking system that can deal with issues that manage a state's currency, money supply, and interest rates.

The governments are incompetent, and can't deal with issues like supply and demand (who is allowed to enter the market and/or what prices may be changed).
 
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