Al-Shabaab capture Geriley, Jubbaland base ATMIS left last month

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I’m not aware of the politics there but Kenya’s army is terrible. This is not a good sign. Kenya can’t afford to increase defence spending, sporadic airstrikes won’t make any difference. Shabaab is trying to set up base in Kenya as they’re pushed out in Somalia.

The strategy of ‘containment’ is no longer possible.

They are doing these hit & run attacks across the border to slow down a planned offensive coordinated between Jubbaland/Kenya/Ethiopia.They have been targeting Mandera a lot lately. This is why it’s important for Jubaland state to secure Lawless Gedo region to prevent AS free access to cross into Mandera county

 

[Abaq]

They are doing these hit & run attacks across the border to slow down a planned offensive coordinated between Jubbaland/Kenya/Ethiopia.They have been targeting Mandera a lot lately. This is why it’s important for Jubaland state to secure Lawless Gedo region to prevent AS free access to cross into Mandera county

Bingo. They are using Gedo as a launchpad

@bidenkulaha Jubbaland Darawish and Danab (who are all Ogaden btw) are currently securing 300km plus of land and expanding rapidly without Amisom (American airstrikes here and there). We know how to secure our land and have proven we can fight, gain territory, and hold it without foreign troops

 

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Defense Minister Duale to visit the Border towns in Wajir & Mandera counties. He has reached Wajir and many of its constituencies.

Duale to visit terror hotspots along Kenya-Somalia border

State suspended reopening Kenya- Somalia border as terrorism surged.

www.the-star.co.ke

 

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If Middle Shabelle is sparsely populated Lower Jubba has no population. The last real census, Middle Shabelle was After Banaadir the most densely populated Gobol.
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Jubbaland (all three gobol) is pretty much empty empty, according to the 2014 estimation it had a similar population to that of LowerShabelle.
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All of JL=about 1.3 million
LowerShabelle= 1.2 million.
The "sparsely" populated Middle Shabelle argument holds no ground, but it pretty much holds true in JL.

The only way it would make sense, why JL forces are unable to clear the region must be due to +70% of the Jubbas having non Daarood population, whom are completely sidelined in Kismayo based Jubbaland state.

Very low iq response. At no point in the post did I mention population “scarcity”. I was referring to the geographical features and general size of MS.

As for your typical Darood inferiority complex derailment, i’ll entertain it. Remind me why a Hawiye who is in LS under Amisom, FGS priority, and AS buffer zones cant name themselves gudoomiye or even Gudoomiye ku xigeen iirc. LS is the most populated gobol you guys should not only be governor but atleast VP

Furthermore MS+Benadir+GM< PL + JL with that same source. Are Hawiye finally accepting the 2014 results because no matter how you wanna slice JL Xamar/Hirshabelle is ultra-diverse and GM has a strong Darood presence

 

[Cartan Boos]

Wow even American army are fighting in galmudug

 

[Rationale]

Very low iq response. At no point in the post did I mention population “scarcity”. I was referring to the geographical features and general size of MS.

As for your typical Darood inferiority complex derailment, i’ll entertain it. Remind me why a Hawiye who is in LS under Amisom, FGS priority, and AS buffer zones cant name themselves gudoomiye or even Gudoomiye ku xigeen iirc. LS is the most populated gobol you guys should not only be governor but atleast VP

Furthermore MS+Benadir+GM< PL + JL with that same source. Are Hawiye finally accepting the 2014 results because no matter how you wanna slice JL Xamar/Hirshabelle is ultra-diverse and GM has a strong Darood presence

Barren land=scarce population. They tend to go hand in hand.

JL has a port revenue, Kenyan support, stable crossborder relations and yet are un able to free the Daarood heartland Afmadow. LowerShabelle governor is Irir and kuxigeen is Irir. The positions are appointed from Baidoa, yet they are not naming non Irir for the positions. Tells you everything about the dynamics of the gobol.

I don't understand where your cope is coming from. JL, which you make like at max 40% of its population, has similar population to that of LowerShabelle, and this is data from the most pro Daarood estimation ever conducted. These are facts, I know bit shocking but still facts.

We only need 30%-40% of Lowershabelle population to match the Daarood in JL. Then Xamar alone had a higher population than PL. Which leaves Hirshabelle and GM as a surplus. There is nothing to entertain walaal.

Hehe also, there is no inferiority complex here. For six months your cousins were shitting on our jihaad against Al-Shabaab. Will give you the same energy since it seems to be the only remedy to their misplaced cuqdad.

 

[Cartan Boos]

And y'all think Al Shabab can be beat when some people use their attack as fkd against other qabil and even support them in other regions bc some qabil they don't like live there, the cuqdad Is crazy

 

[Rationale]

And y'all think Al Shabab can be beat when some people use their attack as fkd against other qabil and even support them in other regions bc some qabil they don't like live there, the cuqdad Is crazy

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/mudulood-to-start-offensive-this-week.137564/

What goes around comes around.

 

[Hilmaam]

Wow even American army are fighting in galmudug

Trump removed them he was isolationist and anti helping outside forces whether it’s African union , Somalia , or NATO. Biden reversed policy and brought back US troops . Either way america might not be reliable partner soon many conservative governments are starting to have same outlook on world and asking why it’s our business. If democrats win will continue to get support.

 

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This thread in a nutshell:

Doroos: “How dare Hawiye troops protect Hawiye lands while neglecting Dooro territory it’s your fault that our bases are getting taken because your troops are not protecting them”

God I love being Hawiye

 

[Bowda-dheer]

This thread in a nutshell:

Doroos: “How dare Hawiye troops protect Hawiye lands while neglecting Dooro territory it’s your fault that our bases are getting taken because your troops are not protecting them”

God I love being Hawiye

American base in abgaal land will hopefully keep y’all safe a whole base of Danab was wiped out in abgaal land never happened in somalia before.

 

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American base in abgaal land will hopefully keep y’all safe a whole base of Danab was wiped out in abgaal land never happened in somalia before.

Danab are for infantry they are not meant to be holding bases. Galcad was a setup to assassinate the Xawaadle commander.

 

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Barren land=scarce population. They tend to go hand in hand.

JL has a port revenue, Kenyan support, stable crossborder relations and yet are un able to free the Daarood heartland Afmadow. LowerShabelle governor is Irir and kuxigeen is Irir. The positions are appointed from Baidoa, yet they are not naming non Irir for the positions. Tells you everything about the dynamics of the gobol.

I don't understand where your cope is coming from. JL, which you make like at max 40% of its population, has similar population to that of LowerShabelle, and this is data from the most pro Daarood estimation ever conducted. These are facts, I know bit shocking but still facts.

We only need 30%-40% of Lowershabelle population to match the Daarood in JL. Then Xamar alone had a higher population than PL. Which leaves Hirshabelle and GM as a surplus. There is nothing to entertain walaal.

Hehe also, there is no inferiority complex here. For six months your cousins were shitting on our jihaad against Al-Shabaab. Will give you the same energy since it seems to be the only remedy to their misplaced cuqdad.

Hawiye have poor language skills. Barren has a definition either use it or use another word.

Afmadow has been liberated for years now.

LS governor is Garre and they arent Irir even with a Gardheere lineage although they are well known to have been assimilated into Digil when in Somalia.

As for Jubbaland its a Darood first and second state whilst LS is a D&M Qadaadweyn colony under KG.

 

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Hawiye have poor language skills. Barren has a definition either use it or use another word.

Afmadow has been liberated for years now.

LS governor is Garre and they arent Irir even with a Gardheere lineage although they are well known to have been assimilated into Digil when in Somalia.

As for Jubbaland its a Darood first and second state whilst LS is a D&M Qadaadweyn colony under KG.

As you said yourself Darood don’t farm so there goes 36% of the population (whom are almost entirely Bantu or Reewin). Remaining 25% Urban population is sourced from mostly Kismayo which has a large Gaaljecel, Cawramale, Sheekhaal minority alongside Darood, The Largest towns of Gedo along the river (Bardheere, Buurdhuubo, Luuq) also has a large native Raxanweyn community. 29% Nomadic also includes the Gaaljecel nomads who live all over Lower Juba, the Cawramale of Buulo Xaaji, the Sheekhaal of Hoosingow, the Macalinweyn nomads of Gedo, etc etc. See the picture I’m painting?

All in all 30-40% Darood sounds about right. The dynamics of Jubaland are about to drastically change once/if the state is fully liberated

 

[bidenkulaha]

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As you said yourself Darood don’t farm so there goes 36% of the population (whom are almost entirely Bantu or Reewin). Remaining 25% Urban population is sourced from mostly Kismayo which has a large Gaaljecel, Cawramale, Sheekhaal minority alongside Darood, The Largest towns of Gedo along the river (Bardheere, Buurdhuubo, Luuq) also has a large native Raxanweyn community. 29% Nomadic also includes the Gaaljecel nomads who live all over Lower Juba, the Cawramale of Buulo Xaaji, the Sheekhaal of Hoosingow, the Macalinweyn nomads of Gedo, etc etc. See the picture I’m painting?

All in all 30-40% Darood sounds about right. The dynamics of Jubaland are about to drastically change once/if the state is fully liberated

Mashallah, the cream always rises to the top. Irir will show their presence in a post liberation, 1m1v Jubbaland. Can’t keep us down forever! JL state is not Galmudug, Hirshabelle, Banadir purely dominated by one clan

The future is bright, a VP in KG is inevitable next Presidency and complete control of shabellaha Hoose and Gaaljecel/Sheikhal/Dir macawiisley in Bay, Jubbada Hoose to liberate their lands will change a lot

 

[Abaq]

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As you said yourself Darood don’t farm so there goes 36% of the population (whom are almost entirely Bantu or Reewin). Remaining 25% Urban population is sourced from mostly Kismayo which has a large Gaaljecel, Cawramale, Sheekhaal minority alongside Darood, The Largest towns of Gedo along the river (Bardheere, Buurdhuubo, Luuq) also has a large native Raxanweyn community. 29% Nomadic also includes the Gaaljecel nomads who live all over Lower Juba, the Cawramale of Buulo Xaaji, the Sheekhaal of Hoosingow, the Macalinweyn nomads of Gedo, etc etc. See the picture I’m painting?

All in all 30-40% Darood sounds about right. The dynamics of Jubaland are about to drastically change once/if the state is fully liberated

How did you determine rural = agricultural? You do know there are hundreds of Ogaden villages all over Jubaland that are considered rural. Also, you do know that the pop of Gaaljecel, Cawramale, Sheekhaal etc is negligible right? You guys need to actually visit Kismayo yourselves instead of imagining things online

 

[Abaq]

Mashallah, the cream always rises to the top. Irir will show their presence in a post liberation, 1m1v Jubbaland. Can’t keep us down forever! JL state is not Galmudug, Hirshabelle, Banadir purely dominated by one clan

The future is bright, a VP in KG is inevitable next Presidency and complete control of shabellaha Hoose and Gaaljecel/Sheikhal/Dir macawiisley in Bay, Jubbada Hoose to liberate their lands will change a lot

You are day dreaming. Absame heavily dominate everything West of the river till Baardheere. If anything, we might even start spreading and building villages on the Eastern bank too

 

[bidenkulaha]

You are day dreaming. Absame heavily dominate everything West of the river till Baardheere. If anything, we might even start spreading and building villages on the Eastern bank too

Come on bro, even your MJs reporters exposed y’all . I am just taking their word

 

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How did you determine rural = agricultural? You do know there are hundreds of Ogaden villages all over Jubaland that are considered rural. Also, you do know that the pop of Gaaljecel, Cawramale, Sheekhaal etc is negligible right? You guys need to actually visit Kismayo yourselves instead of imagining things online

They claim that a liberated Jubaland will expose our numbers yet the only ones dying to liberate it are Ogadens/Absame

This is why they support AS attacks in JL & Kenya because they are fearful of losing the Irir privileges they were receiving under the Mujrim Abu Ubeydha