Adal Sultanate

[landheer]

Gidir is indeed a clan, it's a subclan of Karanle Hawiye. The Habar Gidir their mother Raaray was a Gidir Karanle that's how they are Habar Gidir.

Bah Majerteen (the Harti clan) descent from Faadumo Ceelaanyo Majerteen, Majerteen is a Ciise Dir clan. The proper name of the large Harti clan is the BAH Majerteen.

Habar Awal are descended from an Arab mother from Zeila the wife of Cabdalraxmaan Isaaq, Zeila was originally called Awal, the woman's name was Zulaikha. This is why they are Habar Awal.

Habar Garxajis descent from a woman of the Garxajis Mandaluug clan of Dir.

How much stronger was ajuuran compared to adal?

 

[James Dahl]

How much stronger was ajuuran compared to adal?

Really hard to say, the historical accounts say they were comparable but I think the Ajuuraan was more centralized and the Imam had more authority. Overall I think if the two had fought Adal probably would have won, Adal had more fighting experience against much tougher opponents, including defeating the Ethiopian Empire at their peak of power. Ajuuraan had an easier time and their successful war was against a much weaker series of opponents in conquering the south.

The centralization of the Ajuuraan was their downfall really, a successful coup d'etat by the Hiraab with one stroke pushed them utterly out of central Somalia and began a long decline.

 

[landheer]

Really hard to say, the historical accounts say they were comparable but I think the Ajuuraan was more centralized and the Imam had more authority. Overall I think if the two had fought Adal probably would have won, Adal had more fighting experience against much tougher opponents, including defeating the Ethiopian Empire at their peak of power. Ajuuraan had an easier time and their successful war was against a much weaker series of opponents in conquering the south.

The centralization of the Ajuuraan was their downfall really, a successful coup d'etat by the Hiraab with one stroke pushed them utterly out of central Somalia and began a long decline.

Thanks walal but I hear ajuuran was more technologically advanced even employing hydraulic engineering pretty early on the first empire in africa to do this and what do you mean it faced weaker opponents we were the first non-european state that engaged the then superpower portugal in naval combat and had an extremely strong influence in terms of currency with ajuuran empire coins being found In the UAE not too long ago and they were allegedly the first to use the cannon in subsaharn Africa.

And do you think that the growth of thee empires was hindered because of the pastrolist culture?Personally yes I believe this.