Abortion and IVF

[BebsiBolice]

There's more similarities between the two then people understand. It comes down to women's body, agency, control and stigma.

Some anti -abortion believers like to shame women into not getting an abortion by using the same tiered reduntent agrument that there are women out there with fertility issues who long to give birth.

I see more similarities between a woman getting an abortion and a woman getting IVF assistance. Both women are seeking to control their body. And abortion or IVF are just tools for women to use to gain control, to have a say over their bodies. And in both cases the woman ends up with being stigmatized for taking control over her anatomy.

Both of these women in my opinion are in the same position just different outcomes.

 

[merka]

Abortion is murder

 

[Nin xun]

Abortion is murder

That's the Roman Catholic position, in Islam the health of the mother is of greater importance than that of a potential life.

 

[merka]

That's the Roman Catholic position, in Islam the health of the mother is of greater importance than that of a potential life.

Most abortions are not due to health issues.

 

[Apollo]

Somalis already have a high fertility rate, so I'm okay with abortion. Right wingers are mainly concerned about abortion because of the ridiculously low fertility rate of white people (much below replacement rate).

 

[Nin xun]

Most abortions are not due to health issues.

You can greatly reduce that by introducing sex ed and increasing the availability of contraceptives.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Abortion is murder

It's not. A fetus is not a child it's just goo.

 

[merka]

You can greatly reduce that by introducing sex ed and increasing the availability of contraceptives.

True. But we're talking about abortions not contraceptives.

 

[Apollo]

You're so extreme.

Women in Somalia have 7 or 6 kids on average. We could do with less.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Most abortions are not due to health issues.

Mental health are very much health issues. Studies prove women that get the abortion feel much better afterwards

 

[BebsiBolice]

Women in Somalia have 7 or 6 kids on average. We could do with less.

I don't view abortions as a mean to population control education and giving women equal opportunity does that far better than anything else.

 

[Nin xun]

You're so extreme.

He's right though because if somali women were having less children they'd have more options to do other things like getting educated and working more, increasing the productivity of the nation as a whole. With work they'll obviously earn a salary and be more independent, giving them more options while also expanding the consumer market already catering to them.

 

[BebsiBolice]

He's right though because if somali women were having less children they'd have more options to do other things like getting educated and working more, increasing the productivity of the nation as a whole. With work they'll obviously earn a salary and be more independent, giving them more options while also creating a expanding the consumer market already catering to them.

Well he edited his comment. He wrote something incredibly misgonyst. Didn't you @Amun i was referring to that

 

[merka]

It's not. A fetus is not a child it's just goo.

Doesn't look like goo to me.

 

[Apollo]

Well he edited his comment. He wrote something incredibly misgonyst. Didn't you @Amun i was referring to that

It's true that mainly loose women on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum will be opting for abortions. That's just common sense. Crime went down in countries that adopted abortion policies decades ago as less retarded children were born.

 

[BebsiBolice]

It's true that mainly loose women on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum will be opting for abortions. That's just common sense. Crime went down in countries that adopted abortion policies decades ago as less retarded children were born.

@Nin xun

 

[BebsiBolice]

Doesn't look like goo to me.

I'm pretty sure that's a modified pictures. Anyways be different countries have different rules and limits for when an abortion can take place. I think in Sweden it's maximum 8 weeks unless there's an emergency. First 2 months the fetus is nothing but a couple of cells,water and blood attached to each other.

And yes that is goo. Doesn't have a heart nor a brain so neither is it living.

 

[Apollo]

@Nin xun

In criminology textbooks it literally says that, removal of lead from gasoline and abortion laws caused a big drop in youth crime rates. Fewer stupid children around.

 

[BebsiBolice]

In criminology textbooks it literally says that, removal of lead from gasoline and abortion laws caused a big drop in youth crime rates. Less stupid children around.

Maybe. I still don't take your words for granted. You're a Somali version of Hitler and Hitler was a misogynist.

 

[Apollo]

Maybe. I still don't take your words for granted. You're a Somali version of Hitler and Hitler was a misogynist.

Misogynist has now become a totally meaningless buzzword because of people like you. Stop abusing words.