Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed was the greatest president to have conquered Somalia.

[Duchess]

The italians had NOTED DOWN THE existence of Guuleed Faarax Jeex. He was a ex commander of the Imamate. The military power was of HG (Guuleed) and Duduble hence why the military alliance in Hiraab. Also its in Lee Cassanell who noted down the battles between Kenadiid and Guuled. I can post the lineages and the military mens too. Its all the truth.

You claimed Guleed whoever defeated the Sultanate. That is a flat out lie. The Sultanate existed until 1925, when it was brought down by the Italian colonial army and Sultan Kenadid was exiled to Mogadishu.

 

[XoosBoos]

You claimed Guleed whoever defeated the Sultanate. That is a flat out lie. The Sultanate existed until 1925, when it was brought down by the Italian colonial army and Sultan Kenadid was exiled to Mogadishu.

HE OVERTHROWED KENADIID’s hold OF HOBYO. Not your FUCKING SULTANATE.

 

[Duchess]

HE OVERTHROWED KENADIID’s hold OF HOBYO. Not your FUCKING SULTANATE.

Lies. Sultan Kenadid was defeated by the Italians and their slaves. Is this your way of admitting this man was part of the Italian colonial army?

 

[Abdalla]

Overthrowed?

 

[XoosBoos]

Lies. Sultan Kenadid was defeated by the Italians and their slaves. Is this your way of admitting this man was part of the Italian colonial army?

Lmfao, Kenadiid with his Hadrami Musketeers was defeated by Guuled and the Hiraab Imamate, whom made Kenadiid lose his controll of Hobyo and Xarardheere who became trading ports of the Imamate.

 

[Yonis]

Lmfao, Kenadiid with his Hadrami Musketeers was defeated by Guuled and the Hiraab Imamate, whom made Kenadiid lose his controll of Hobyo and Xarardheere who became trading ports of the Imamate.

Pure bullshit,

The last rulers of Hobyo before Italians took dictatorial control was Sultanate of Hobyo

And it was trading port under the Sultanate

 

[XoosBoos]

Lies. Sultan Kenadid was defeated by the Italians and their slaves. Is this your way of admitting this man was part of the Italian colonial army?

Funnily Kenadiid’s fortresses were waving the Italian kingdom flag.

 

[Yonis]

Funnily Kenadiid’s fortresses were waving the Italian kingdom flag.

It was built by MJ merchants, the Italian flag is there as a reminder of Protectorate status, It was built by MJs, just like we built fortresses in Haafuun, Bosaso, Qardho, Eyl, Galkacyo.

Before we conquered hobyo there was nothing there.

Truth hurts

 

[XoosBoos]

Pure bullshit,

The last rulers of Hobyo before Italians took dictatorial control was Sultanate of Hobyo

And it was trading port under the Sultanate

Lmfao, BS? Duduble iyo HG controlled Hobyo when the 3 years of Kenadiid in Hobyo were all gone. Hence why it became a commercial port?

 

[Yonis]

Lmfao, BS? Duduble iyo HG controlled Hobyo when the 3 years of Kenadiid in Hobyo were all gone. Hence why it became a commercial port?

3 years kulaha

Initially, Ali Yusuf Kenadid's goal was to seize control of the neighboring Majeerteen Sultanate, which was then ruled by his cousin Boqor Osman Mahamud. However, he was unsuccessful in this endeavor, and was eventually forced into exile in Yemen. A decade later, in the 1870s, Kenadid returned from the Arabian Peninsula with a band of Hadhrami musketeers and a group of devoted lieutenants. With their assistance, he managed to overpower the local Hawiye clans and establish the kingdom of Hobyo in 1878.[6][7] [8]

In late 1888, Sultan Kenadid entered into a treaty with the Italians, making his realm an Italian protectorate. His rival Boqor Osman would sign a similar agreement vis-a-vis his own Sultanate the following year. Both rulers had signed the protectorate treaties to advance their own expansionist objectives, with Kenadid looking to use Italy's support in his dispute with the Omani Sultan of Zanzibar over an area bordering Warsheikh, in addition to his ongoing power struggle over the Majeerteen Sultanate with Boqor Osman. In signing the agreements, the rulers also hoped to exploit the rival objectives of the European imperial powers so as to more effectively assure the continued independence of their territories.[9]

The terms of each treaty specified that Italy was to steer clear of any interference in the sultanates' respective administrations.[9] In return for Italian arms and an annual subsidy, the Sultans conceded to a minimum of oversight and economic concessions.[10] The Italians also agreed to dispatch a few ambassadors to promote both the sultanates' and their own interests.[9]

However, the relationship between Hobyo and Italy soured when Sultan Kenadid refused the Italians' proposal to allow a British contingent of troops to disembark in his Sultanate so that they might then pursue their battle against the Somali religious and nationalist leader Mohammed Abdullah Hassan's Dervish forces.[11] Viewed as too much of a threat by the Italians, Sultan Kenadid was eventually exiled to Aden in Yemen and then to Eritrea, as was his son Ali Yusuf, the heir apparent to his throne.[12] However, unlike the southern territories, the northern sultanates were not subject to direct rule due to the earlier treaties they had signed with the Italians.[13]

Read the text in Bold,

This picture is from the 1920s

 

[XoosBoos]

It was built by MJ merchants, the Italian flag is there as a reminder of Protectorate status, It was built by MJs, just like we built fortresses in Haafuun, Bosaso, Qardho, Eyl, Galkacyo.

Before we conquered hobyo there was nothing there.

Truth hurts

Nothing? There are old commercial ports made by the Imamate.

 

[XoosBoos]

3 years kulaha



Read the text in Bold,

This picture is from the 1920s

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It was a protectorate not Kenadiid controlled.

 

[Yonis]

It was a protectorate not Kenadiid controlled.

Again for the 3rd time, it was controlled de facto by kenaadid even under protectorate status.

That was the terms of the agreements if you read the paragraph

 

[Duchess]

Lmfao, Kenadiid with his Hadrami Musketeers was defeated by Guuled and the Hiraab Imamate, whom made Kenadiid lose his controll of Hobyo and Xarardheere who became trading ports of the Imamate.

You're peddling horseshit. What year did this happen? And where is your proof?

FYI, the Sultan who used Yemeni mercenaries to conquer Hobyo is not the same one who was defeated and exiled by the Italians. If this Guleed fellow defeated the Sultan, why didnt he kill him? Why was the Sultan instead arrested and taken to Mogadishu with his close circle?

Here they are being exiled:

Here they are in Mogadishu:

What was Guleed's part in any of this? Did he hand them over to the Italians? And why would he do that unless he was working for them? You are unknowingly admitting that he was a foot soldier in their colonial army.

 

[XoosBoos]

Again for the 3rd time, it was controlled de facto by kenaadid even under protectorate status.

That was the terms of the agreements if you read the paragraph

But when the Italian kingdom dismantled? WHO had the controll later? Haaa, it was Hiraab, the fortress is all gone now and is swallowed by the desert dunes.

 

[DesertStorm]

Most of my Cismaan M family were born in Hobyo and are related to reer Kenadiid.

 

[Duchess]

But when the Italian kingdom dismantled? WHO had the controll later? Haaa, it was Hiraab, the fortress is all gone now and is swallowed by the desert dunes.

That's in 1960.

 

[XoosBoos]

You're peddling horseshit. What year did this happen? And where is your proof?

FYI, the Sultan who used Yemeni mercenaries to conquer Hobyo is not the same one who was defeated and exiled by the Italians. If this Guleed fellow defeated the Sultan, why didnt he kill him? Why was the Sultan instead arrested and taken to Mogadishu with his close circle?

Here they are being exiled:

Here they are in Mogadishu:

What was Guleed's part in any of this? Did he hand them over to the Italians? And why would he do that unless he was working for them? You are unknowingly admitting that he was a foot soldier in their colonial army.

«Hobyo served as a prosperous commercial centre for the Imamate. The agricultural centres of Eldher and Harardhere included the production of sorghum and beans, suplementing with herds of camels, cattle, goats and sheep. Livestock, hides and skin, whilst the aromatic woods and raisins were the primary exports as rice, other foodstuffs and clothes were imported. The luxury comodities traded consisted predominantly of textiles, precious metals and pearls. The commercial goods harvested along the Shabelle river were brought to Hobyo for trade. Also, the increasing importance and rapid settlement of more southernly cities such as Mogadishu further boosted the prosperity of Hobyo, as more and more ships made their way down the Somali coast and stopped in Hobyo to trade and replinish their supplies. To conclude, the port of Hobyo was an income-generating source where the Imamate received enormous revenue.

The reigning sultans of the Hiraab Imamate

• Suldaan Xaaji Cumar Hilowle al-Yacquubi
• Suldaan Doodshe Aadan Good
• Suldaan Daamey Cali (Xume) Axmad
• Suldaan Cumar Abu Bakr
• Suldaan Abu Bakr
• Suldaan Axmad I
• Suldaan Maxamad I
• Suldaan Axmad II
• Suldaan Maxmuud
• Suldaan Cali
• Suldaan Cusmaan
• Suldaan Maxamad II
• Suldaan Axmad III
• Suldaan Xassan C/Qaadir Xaaji«

The suldaans of the Imamate, and Hobyo the capital.

 

[XoosBoos]

Most of my Cismaan M family were born in Hobyo and are related to reer Kenadiid.

LOL, @saywalahi she claimed MJ born in Hobyo. Loooool

 

[saywalahi]

LOL, @saywalahi she claimed MJ born in Hobyo. Loooool

Just like how they all claim to own property in xamar pre 1991