Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed was the greatest president to have conquered Somalia.

[Duchess]

50 years after. Guuled already overthrowed the Sultanate from Hobyo.

Where is the fortress? Where is the FUCKING fortress? Its all gone and destroyed by the Imamate.

A more clear image:

It clearly says Mogadiscio ( Mogadishu), not Hobyo.


Sxb, please, stop for your own sake. This is no longer fun for me.

 

[Yonis]

A more clear image:

It clearly says Mogadiscio ( Mogadishu), not Hobyo.


Sxb, please, stop for your own sake. This is no longer fun for me.

Fake pictures Again

@XoosBoos wallah you should just log off gather your thoughts and rethink your arguments

 

[DesertStorm]

A more clear image:

It clearly says Mogadiscio ( Mogadishu), not Hobyo.


Sxb, please, stop for your own sake. This is no longer fun for me.

Loooooooooooooooooool I will get fired from work today

 

[Abdalla]

WTF happened

From now on press 'preview' before you click on post reply

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

50 years after. Guuled already overthrowed the Sultanate from Hobyo.

Where is the fortress? Where is the FUCKING fortress? Its all gone and destroyed by the Imamate.

 

[Yonis]

kEnAdIiD bowing down to suck italian cuck. Mashallah maids to Italians. Protectorate? Lowkey just to gain power. Like how they seized Bargal. Maid!

Protectorate kulaha. Looool. Explain this nigga.

so you changed the fake photo after you were exposed

This is what happens when you lie, people are not stupid they will pick up on it.

 

[XoosBoos]

@Duchess
My facts still stands,
«Soon afterwards, the entire region was snapped up by fascist Italy and it led to the birth of a Modern Somalia. However, the Hiraab hereditary leadership has remained intact up to this day and enjoys a dominant influence in national Somali affairs.»

«Lee Cassanelli in his book The Shaping of Somali society provides a historical picture of the Hiraab Immate.»
I’m not denying you were able to seize Hobyo but it was later in the hands of the Imamate. You only had 3 years of direct rule till you became a Protectorate, De facto. @Yonis People in Hobyo were nomads and moved. There are pics of nomadic huts spread across, it wasn’t really settled. As even Kenadiid was exiled later to Aden with his son. So whats your point? It wasn’t before 50 years till you lost total grip of Hobyo, including decline due to denying brits to disembark into continuing the path to Sayyid Mohammed as he were seen as a threat. All this can be found in Lee Cassanelli in his book The Shaping of Somali society. It was also noted that in the 15th centuries small commercial centers were made by pastoralists, long before there was any expanding from the North. The Zanzibari also faced the Imamate whom declined us temporarily. - Lea, David; Rowe, Annamarie (2001). A Political Chronology of Africa. Europa Publications. p. 378.

 

[Duchess]

@Duchess
My facts still stands,
«Soon afterwards, the entire region was snapped up by fascist Italy and it led to the birth of a Modern Somalia. However, the Hiraab hereditary leadership has remained intact up to this day and enjoys a dominant influence in national Somali affairs.»

«Lee Cassanelli in his book The Shaping of Somali society provides a historical picture of the Hiraab Immate.»
I’m not denying you were able to seize Hobyo but it was later in the hands of the Imamate. You only had 3 years of direct rule till you became a Protectorate, De facto. @Yonis People in Hobyo were nomads and moved. There are pics of nomadic huts spread across, it wasn’t really settled. As even Kenadiid was exiled later to Aden with his son. So whats your point? It wasn’t before 50 years till you lost total grip of Hobyo, including decline due to denying brits to disembark into continuing the path to Sayyid Mohammed as he were seen as a threat. All this can be found in Lee Cassanelli in his book The Shaping of Somali society. It was also noted that in the 15th centuries small commercial centers were made by pastoralists, long before there was any expanding from the North. The Zanzibari also faced the Imamate whom declined us temporarily. - Lea, David; Rowe, Annamarie (2001). A Political Chronology of Africa. Europa Publications. p. 378.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

You claimed some guy called Guleed overthrew the Sultanate, that was a lie. Then you posted pics from South Africa and Mogadishu and tried to pass them off as Hobyo. Now you're posting irrelevant quotes that have nothing to do with our discussion.

For your information, Sultan Yusuf Ali Kenadid (the first Sultan of Hobyo) established the Sultanate in the 1870s. His son, Sultan Ali Yusuf Kenadid, was born in Hobyo and did not become Sultan until the early 1900s. That's a period of nearly 30 years. It was his father who was exiled because he refused to let the British use his Sultanate to attack the Darwiish.

This is Sultan Ali Yusuf Kenadid. He ruled from the early 1900s to 1925.

 

[Duchess]

so you changed the fake photo after you were exposed

This is what happens when you lie, people are not stupid they will pick up on it.

How sad. You would think he would learn from this, instead, he returns with some more horseshit by remixing his nonsensical opinions with quotes from a book by a reputable historian thinking we wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

 

[Starscream]

It was built by MJ merchants, the Italian flag is there as a reminder of Protectorate status, It was built by MJs, just like we built fortresses in Haafuun, Bosaso, Qardho, Eyl, Galkacyo.

Before we conquered hobyo there was nothing there.

Truth hurts

The fort in eyl has nothing to do with mj it was built by the dervish after the Italian gave it to them

 

[Duchess]

The fort in eyl has nothing to do with mj it was built by the dervish after the Italian gave it to them

It was built by a Yemeni whose grandson still lives in Eyl.

 

[Starscream]

It was built by a Yemeni whose grandson still lives in Eyl.

Same as the one in taleh what's your point unless you gonna tell me is a Yemeni fort

 

[XoosBoos]

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

You claimed some guy called Guleed overthrew the Sultanate, that was a lie. Then you posted pics from South Africa and Mogadishu and tried to pass them off as Hobyo. Now you're posting irrelevant quotes that have nothing to do with our discussion.

For your information, Sultan Yusuf Ali Kenadid (the first Sultan of Hobyo) established the Sultanate in the 1870s. His son, Sultan Ali Yusuf Kenadid, was born in Hobyo and did not become Sultan until the early 1900s. That's a period of nearly 30 years. It was his father who was exiled because he refused to let the British use his Sultanate to attack the Darwiish.

This is Sultan Ali Yusuf Kenadid. He ruled from the early 1900s to 1925.

Bruh, I said the Imamate lead by Guuled Farax Jeex chased you away from Hobyo, not overthrowed. The Italian were fighting you guys in Elbuur etc. I posted links and authors who talked about the feud between the Imamate and the Sultanate and yet you are deflecting. Lmfao, read his books about it. Why are you talking about his dad? It isn’t relevant to the context.

 

[Duchess]

Same as the one in taleh what's your point unless you gonna tell me is a Yemeni fort

That it wasn't built by the Dervish as you claimed. It was built by a Yemeni.

 

[XoosBoos]

How sad. You would think he would learn from this, instead, he returns with some more horseshit by remixing his nonsensical opinions with quotes from a book by a reputable historian thinking we wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

If you really had Hobyo? Why isn’t there any MJ’s living there? Why didn’t Kenadiid return back after his Exile. Doesn’t make sense. Read Lee Cassanelli books before you post texts without links.

 

[XoosBoos]

That it wasn't built by the Dervish as you claimed. It was built by a Yemeni.

I also bet the fortresses were built by Hadramis as they are very similar to those in the city itself Hadrami. Lmfao.

 

[Duchess]

Bruh, I said the Imamate lead by Guuled Farax Jeex chased you away from Hobyo, not overthrowed. The Italian were fighting you guys in Elbuur etc. I posted links and authors who talked about the feud between the Imamate and the Sultanate and yet you are deflecting. Lmfao, read his books about it. Why are you talking about his dad? It isn’t relevant to the context.

And, until now, you have yet to provide one piece of evidence to back up your claims. You posted quotes about the Hiraab Imamate, nothing about a conflict with the Sultanate of Hobyo, nothing about the Sultanate existing for only 3 years and nothing about Guleed overthrowing either Sultan. You even resorted to using fake pictures when you saw the discussion wasn't going your way. I rest my case.

 

[XoosBoos]

And, until now, you have yet to provide one piece of evidence to back up your claims. You posted quotes about the Hiraab Imamate, nothing about a conflict with the Sultanate of Hobyo, nothing about the Sultanate existing for only 3 years and nothing about Guleed overthrowing either Sultan. You even resorted to using fake pictures when you saw the discussion wasn't going your way. I rest my case.

Look, you are deflecting my quotes who are even saying the Imamate overthrowed you after 50 years, 3 years being direct rule of the Sultanate till the Italian taking over in 1890’s. Read Lee Cassanelli book. He even talks about the Imamate and the Sacad having skirmishes with the Sultanate. Yet, you haven’t provided no peer-reviewed links only pics, funnily the fortress doesn’t stand anylonger. Its destroyed, possible by the Italians who later with the Brits turned against you.

 

[Starscream]

That it wasn't built by the Dervish as you claimed. It was built by a Yemeni.

Are we gonna play stupid now that land was given to the mad mullah by the Italians so he could built a fort
By your stupid logic the towers in Dubai belong to Hindus and not Arabs who put money into financing the projects

 

[XoosBoos]

MJ built the fortress in Hobyo? Lmfao, the fortess in Hobyo has same/similar style as the one in Hadramaut. Rofl.