A full somali got haplogroup A1b1-M118!

[giire12]

Is he the lost indigenous Somali before Eurasian back migration?

 

[World]

No, it’s an ancient Nilotic haplogroup that is found among Cushitic people from even Tanzania(Iraqw), likewise common among all Ethiopians. And it’s found in 3 % of Egyptians.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Which clan?

 

[Zkr]

I've seen a Gerikombe 100% Somali with that. There is a Xarla too with it and apparently a Karanle. Quite common for that region (Harar areas). It is the Oromo one though.

 

[giire12]

Which clan?

i dont know i am waiting for his response, its in 23andMe and he got his result yesterday

 

[giire12]

I've seen a Gerikombe 100% Somali with that. There is a Xarla too with it and apparently a Karanle. Quite common for that region (Harar areas). It is the Oromo one though.

He is 98.9% somali, 1% Ethiopia and Eritrea (somali region) and 0.1% Unassigned. I saw Oromo get the same haplogroup in Reddit.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Is he the lost indigenous Somali before Eurasian back migration?

Lol, Somalis didn't exist back then and Somalis always had Middle-Eastern Dna. This chap descends from a super ancient East African fella from the stone age.

 

[giire12]

Which clan?

I got an update, from his dad side he is Dir, Akisho. mother side darood.

 

[World]

I got an update, from his dad side he is Dir, Akisho. mother side darood.

Akisho are a dual Oromo/Somali clan. It’s likely he got it from them.

 

[Step a side]

Amazing. This haplogroup seems to be a regular occurrence in the region. If all of them carry the same sub clade then it could be an indigenous Hararge lineage whose people got assimilated by the Somali tribes in the region

 

[World]

Amazing. This haplogroup seems to be a regular occurrence in the region. If all of them carry the same sub clade then it could be an indigenous Hararge lineage whose people got assimilated by the Somali tribes in the region

That wouldn’t explain how it ended up in North Africa, Arabia and Europe as well.

Since the Tanzanian Iraqw have it, and they took a different migration route(South Cushitic people avoided the Horn) i am assuming it’s an Ancient haplogroup that Cushitic people brought with them from Egypt/Sudan.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

He is 98.9% somali, 1% Ethiopia and Eritrea (somali region) and 0.1% Unassigned. I saw Oromo get the same haplogroup in Reddit.

My wife got Russian maternal haplogroup she is 100 percent somali ancestors composition

 

[Step a side]

That wouldn’t explain how it ended up in North Africa, Arabia and Europe as well.

Since the Tanzanian Iraqw have it, and they took a different migration route(South Cushitic people avoided the Horn) i am assuming it’s an Ancient haplogroup that Cushitic people brought with them from Egypt/Sudan.

Yes this what I meant. It’s an ancient lineage. If the Darood, Dir, Hawiye etc from those regions carry the exact sub clade within 1500 TMRCA it could very well be a Hararge lineage

 

[giire12]

Akisho are a dual Oromo/Somali clan. It’s likely he got it from them.

I did suspect Akisho to have ancient links with Oromo/Haraghe but 23andme can't trace ancient ancestry that's why his 99.9% Somali.

 

[giire12]

My wife got Russian maternal haplogroup she is 100 percent somali ancestors composition
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That's maternal haplogroup, us somalis in particular have diverse maternal haplogroup, mine is Persian in origin, haplogroup R0a2. But paternal haplogroup A is ancient and rare. If I am not mistaken, on average somali population are about 60% L and 40% Eurasian maternal such as M, N, R, HV, U, I, J and etc

 

[Sophisticate]

That's maternal haplogroup, us somalis in particular have diverse maternal haplogroup, mine is Persian in origin, haplogroup R0a2. But paternal haplogroup A is ancient and rare. If I am not mistaken, on average somali population are about 60% L and 40% Eurasian maternal such as M, N, R, HV, U, I, J and etc

I have to be honest. The mtdna haplogroup breakdown is not known. It is speculative based on admixture. I believe that is misleading. No one really knows. They merely estimate.

 

[giire12]

I have to be honest. The mtdna haplogroup breakdown is not known. It is speculative based on admixture. I believe that is misleading. No one really knows. They merely estimate.

Yes I agree, I got these estimates from an intersting thread created a while back.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/y-dna-and-mtdna-of-somali-mostly-23andme-relatives.104370/

 

[Sophisticate]

Yes I agree, I got these estimates from an intersting thread created a while back.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/y-dna-and-mtdna-of-somali-mostly-23andme-relatives.104370/

I've seen it. I prefer not to speculate. We don't all have the same relative list on 23andme. So it's just conjecture.

 

[giire12]

I've seen it. I prefer not to speculate. We don't all have the same relative list on 23andme. So it's just conjecture.

Even in the thread it's inconsistent, one individual reported his relative list had a ratio of 47% L and 53% Eurasian maternal HG, I could not do mine cause it's time consuming.

 

[Garaad Awal]

That's maternal haplogroup, us somalis in particular have diverse maternal haplogroup, mine is Persian in origin, haplogroup R0a2. But paternal haplogroup A is ancient and rare. If I am not mistaken, on average somali population are about 60% L and 40% Eurasian maternal such as M, N, R, HV, U, I, J and etc

R0a2 isn’t Persian, it came to the Horn with Cushites. There’s a reason there’s entire subclades of R0a2 that are exclusively dominated by Horners.Most of our maternal lineages are Cushitic in origin except the Horner HG lineages like L0a1d (quite common among Somalis) or clearly Arabian ones (quite rare)