What are you lot talking about re-anitvex etc. it’s a real fucking situation. Btw, I took the covid vaccine because I had no choice and still have no choice due to my job. Also anti vaccine argument doesn’t fly here as we are Africans have had all vaccines. That said, I wanted to share my thoughts here. A relative died. He was young. Healthy. Athletic and no family history of heart disease.
A 30 something relative died yesterday of heart attack.
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All I’m saying here is- if you feel different or have something you find is wrong health wise, get it checked out, especially if you have had the vaccine and you are a male. Like all medical procedures some have adverse reactions than others.
So now we're being compared with atheists
well yes, I'm a disbeliever in the vax religion of those people wearing masks alone in their cars... and those people who were calling for us to be brutally persecuted for not adhering to their faith!
The tide is turning, oh vax-pushers.
Surrender now, Branch Covidians! Give up! Put down your weak arguments and government propaganda and surrender. Our reinforcements in the form of ever-increasingly-hard-to-ignore data is on its way and you will soon be surrounded, with no escape!
So now we're being compared with atheists
well yes, I'm a disbeliever in the vax religion of those people wearing masks alone in their cars... and those people who were calling for us to be brutally persecuted for not adhering to their faith!
The tide is turning, oh vax-pushers.
Surrender now, Branch Covidians! Give up! Put down your weak arguments and government propaganda and surrender. Our reinforcements in the form of ever-increasingly-hard-to-ignore data is on its way and you will soon be surrounded, with no escape!
No problem if you don't get yourself vaccinated. Actually, it is good for you since the pandemic is gone. The problem is the anti-vaxx are constantly trying to justify why the people who vaxx themselves were wrong and they (anti-vaxxers) are right. It is this obsession of constantly attributed every sudden death to vaxx without proof that is annoying.
And it is not only atheists they resemble, but Black Hebrew Israelite guys. Those guys stay around in every major city in America, claiming to be the true Jews and declaring other Jews to be fake. Ok I get you want to claim to be the true Jews, but why block in every major city, shooting at people, sometimes fighting them, and claiming to be the true Jews.
So basically the anti-vaxxers, atheists, and Black Hebrew Israelilite guys all resemble in the way they like to mock others and try to force their viewpoints onto others.
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One thing we all need to avoid is we need to make sure that we stay away from mocking anyone who is a Muslim. I think even mocking kaffirs is bad but mocking your fellow Muslim is especially bad.
The vax thing is a very sore spot for people and it is very divisive. People turned on their own family members.
Myself, I was fired from my job. No way do I intend on forgetting any time soon. Or ever.
I believe it should never have been mandated and that trying to force the vax on people against their will is what caused a serious split in society.
Objectively, I believe the unvaccinated were subjected to a persecution in a way that the vaccinated weren't. So of course many of us will feel angry and will feel resentment. I believe we were subjected to ظلم.
However, even if we disagree on the issue, I believe as Muslims we should not be divided. What is ultimately important is whether one is a Muslim or not. A vaccinated Muslim is my brother regardless.
Yeah I agree we should not mock. I also believe the vaccine should not have been mandatory and people shouldn't have been from work.
At the same time, I still believe the anti-vaxx folks are taking it too far. Constantly attributing every sudden death to vaccines without any shred of evidence is a bit too far. I think the jury is still out for these vaccines causing these deaths.
I mean... if you look at 9/11, for example. I think they did a survey and found most people in the US don'r believe the official 9/11 story.
But if I have one view of 9/11 and you have another- we can discuss it and then we can move on. Generally speaking, no one is going to get persecuted for whatever it is they think about 9/11.
But with the vaccine thing, it was like you have to adopt a certain position- "or else". They should have just let people decide for themselves and then people wouldn't have been at each other's throats. Ultimately, the division imo is the fault of the authorities that tried to force vaccines on people who didn't want them.
Way before the covid stuff, my family tried to get me to get the flu vaccine and I decided I didn't want it because I didn't think I needed it. But no one cares and no one cared. I didn't get the flu shot- so what?
The covid shots should have just been left as a personal health decision and all the division imo is just a result of that.
But as far as the vaccine causing deaths- no, I'm definitely convinced the vax is killing people. How common is it now to hear about "19 year athlete collapses and died on the field," this kind of thing. I do think there's evidence that this is more common now and that there is a connection.
another thing is I can't just post a news story and it lays out why it is we think the vax is killing people. the media has basically only been allowing one viewpoint and there was censorship against people who deviated from that only allowed viewpoint.
this is another problem I have. I think they should have let both sides make their case and let the people decide for themselves. if when it comes to this you say the data supports your side but you also try to shut down anyone who expresses a different viewpoint and make sure the other side isn't allowed to talk... that makes me very suspicious. I don't think that's how science is supposed to work.
this is another problem I have. I think they should have let both sides make their case and let the people decide for themselves. if when it comes to this you say the data supports your side but you also try to shut down anyone who expresses a different viewpoint and make sure the other side isn't allowed to talk... that makes me very suspicious. I don't think that's how science is supposed to work.
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