30 year old geeljire from UK jailed for 10 years for raping a woman

[TekNiKo]

What’s the point of prison? Sure, you’re confined to one building, but where’s the punishment in that?

I strongly believe they should use prisoners as an “unpaid” labor force, if taxpayers are going to be paying for their livelihood for anything from a small sentence to life. They’d be paying the public back for their infraction.

This is basically slavery, I thought you were more humane that @VixR?

 

[Apollo]

This is basically slavery, I thought you were more humane that @VixR?

Sometimes she is very right-wing. She also expressed a liking for Trump. Shockingly.

 

[TekNiKo]

It's the same in france too. One planed his escape and a helicopter picked him up.

Europe is a joke, Anders Breivik from Norway who killed 10s of people prison cell

Wallahi this is better living conditions than many ghettos in US

 

[saredochani10]

Europe is a joke, Anders Breivik who killed 10s of people prison cell

Wallahi this is better living conditions than many ghettos in US

You are right honestly.

 

[Crow]

Its just a guess knowles. No one knows the victim. Rape is horrible no matter what. But he is out in 5 years. Still by uk standards he got harsh sentence for rape as its 2-3 years usually

This is why we need proper shariah. The only just punishment for rape is execution.

 

[Crow]

What’s the point of prison? Sure, you’re confined to one building, but where’s the punishment in that?

I strongly believe they should use prisoners as an “unpaid” labor force, if taxpayers are going to be paying for their livelihood for anything from a small sentence to life. They’d be paying the public back for their infraction.

Wow, you really aren't a lefty..

That is politically unfeasible in the West, as it will remind people of slavery and groups similar to BLM will scream black slavery especially.

It's a very good idea and I've been thinking about it recently. I plan on building a labour camp in my tuulo where prisoners can 'learn skills' and do 'professional development' to decrease recidivism (i.e. they will be my slaves and I will profit).
:siilaanyosmile:

 

[VixR]

Wow, you really aren't a lefty..

That is politically unfeasible in the West, as it will remind people of slavery and groups similar to BLM will scream black slavery especially.

How does prison as it is currently make any sense whatsoever?

We’re paying as a society for convicts to sleep, exercise, and eat three square meals in a building they can’t leave indefinitely. They’re just holding cells without providing any benefit for the population or the prisoner.

Not only would it make economic sense to put them to work, it makes psychological sense. People need work to feel accomplished. They could be trained in a field of work during their prison stay, do their time and put in their work, and after their release, they’d have useful/transferable skill sets for their reintegration into society, which would reduce the rates of recidivism or reentry into a life of crime. Half the time, the reason they become convicts is due to the fact that they had no chance at learning a trade or any form of legal work.

I also think they should all have limited isolation periods, not for ungodly amounts of time that would amount to torture, but something determined by science, or short in span, like 1-2 hrs/wk as a form of reflection, as well as some sort of re-education/re-integration program through volunteers. Having minorities who are prisoners come out of jail with a marketable profession would actually help those groups.

I support this idea, but work has to be brought to them, and not them go out of prison building to work, otherwise u will see a lot of escape convicts running and attacking a poor house wife like me in the neighborhood.

I think they should be out in the world. Maybe chip technology would be helpful in keeping tabs on them.

It's a very good idea and I've been thinking about it recently. I plan on building a labour camp in my tuulo where prisoners can 'learn skills' and do 'professional development' to decrease recidivism (i.e. they will be my slaves and I will profit).
:siilaanyosmile:

No. They would have to be public. No one benefits, but the state. No private prisons.

 

[The alchemist]

Norway focuses on rehabilitating criminals. Not this notion of 'punishment' (fight against crime) crap the US like to emphasize because the criminals will be released and there's a big chance they will re-offend. To minimize recidivism is what the objective should be.

Most offenders are poor people that do non-violent crime out of economic needs.

 

[VixR]

Sometimes she is very right-wing. She also expressed a liking for Trump. Shockingly.

I never liked Trump. He is legitimately retarded. Why lie about me? What I said was the Dem candidates are disappointing.

We even got a shooting out of their crazy, misguided position where they said the US should start paying for the healthcare costs of illegal aliens, and that there should be no criminal offense for crossing the border illegally.

This is basically slavery, I thought you were more humane that @VixR?

No, it’s not. Paying the state back for your infraction on its citizens as an offender is not slavery, it’s doing your time.

Norway focuses on rehabilitating criminals. Not this notion of 'punishment' (fight against crime) crap the US like to emphasize because the criminals will be released and there's a big chance they will re-offend. To minimize recidivism is what the objective should be.

Most offenders are poor people that do non-violent crime out of economic needs.

Rehabilitation is important, but it doesn’t change their economic position.

 

[Dino]

http://news.met.police.uk/news/man-who-raped-woman-in-hendon-jailed-for-10-years-378725

https://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/17851095.hendon-man-jailed-raping-threatening-kill-woman/

What's wrong with these guys


Ironically he's born on the 1st of January

Rapists deserve nothing short of execution. why should my tax money feed this pond life?

 

[Mufasah]

Norway focuses on rehabilitating criminals. Not this notion of 'punishment' (fight against crime) crap the US like to emphasize because the criminals will be released and there's a big chance they will re-offend. To minimize recidivism is what the objective should be.

Most offenders are poor people that do non-violent crime out of economic needs.

There is strong incentive to encourage re-offending of convicts. There are prisons in the U.S that have been caught advertising recidivism as a pro to shareholders.

American prisons are utter shitholes rampant with violence and rape, but ask them and the rest of the civilised world is too lax.

 

[Jaydaan]

What’s the point of prison? Sure, you’re confined to one building, but where’s the punishment in that?

I strongly believe they should use prisoners as an “unpaid” labor force, if taxpayers are going to be paying for their livelihood for anything from a small sentence to life. They’d be paying the public back for their infraction.

Yeah let corporates and few rich fat cats make more money of the poor once they are in prison. Terrible idea

 

[Jaydaan]

How do you know? Prison guards have been asking Somalis what does Allah hoyooy mean because that’s what the Somali hood rats are singing every night in pen.

Aint gonna happen. You watched too many American movies lool

 

[VixR]

Yeah let corporates and few rich fat cats make more money of the poor once they are in prison. Terrible idea

Nope. No private prisons. Only Public.

 

[The alchemist]

There is strong incentive to encourage re-offending of convicts. There are prisons in the U.S that have been caught advertising recidivism as a pro to shareholders.

American prisons are utter shitholes rampant with violence and rape, but ask them and the rest of the civilised world is too lax.

You're correct. The prison-industrial complex is an interweaving of private business and government interests. They put fear in people by showing serial killers and missing children on documentaries, "random violence" on TV to justify the use of tax dollars for the repression and incarceration of a growing percentage of the population.

 

[Apollo]

I never liked Trump. He is legitimately retarded.

Well, that's good to hear.

Why lie about me? What I said was the Dem candidates are disappointing.

Should have phrased it better then. I thought you said you would support him over the more far-left Dem candidates or you were at least thinking about it. Not framing you as a right-winger, just showing that you aren't an SJW.

 

[Jaydaan]

Nope. No private prisons. Only Public.

I cant think of anything they would do that the public wiukd benefit from 100%. Prisons labour is supported by right wingers only as a mean to make money of the poor

 

[VixR]

Well, that's good to hear.



Should have phrased it better then, but I thought you said you would support him over the more far-left Dem candidates or you were at least thinking about it. Not framing you as a right-winger, just showing that you aren't an SJW.

I didn’t say I would support him, but that his opponents aren’t attractive. He’ll be keeping his base. They aren’t even trying to appeal to them, which is a mistake.

I don’t see anyone I would support yet, but it’ll be more interesting once the field is cut down.

There’s nothing wrong with being an SJW. People on here are just pathetic about it, bc the alt-right appeals to them despite their bar to entry (being white).

 

[AarHawd_7]

He will be out in 5 in sha allah,

 

[Apollo]

There’s nothing wrong with being an SJW..

They are annoying and kill humor. You have to constantly watch your language around them or they will cancel you.