20 largest cities in Somalia

[Afrax]

The 2019 census for Kenya is inaccurate.

I know, but how inaccurate? I don't like dismissing options just because they don't support my view point. Everything needs to be critically examined that's all.

 

[Afrax]

The agricultural crop production for Middle Shabelle suggests it can only support maybe 100,000 people at most.

The region must be super ineffective at crop production then. According to you 5 hectares are needed to feed feed 1 person. That's almost as ineffective as hunter gatherer lifestyle.

While the most primitive agricultural methods produce food on a hectare(sorghum) for about 2 people.

 

[World]

The region must be super ineffective at crop production then. According to you 5 hectares are needed to feed feed 1 person. That's almost as ineffective as hunter gatherer lifestyle.

While the most primitive agricultural methods produce food on a hectare(sorghum) for about 2 people.

In 2024, Middle Shabelle produced:

-1261 tons of cowpea
-4020 tons of sesame
-12390 tons of maisie
-9100 tons of rice
-186 tons of sorghum

That will feed around 100k people.

FSNAU CROP DATA

 

[Afrax]

In 2024, Middle Shabelle produced:

-1261 tons of cowpea
-4020 tons of sesame
-12390 tons of maisie
-9100 tons of rice
-186 tons of sorghum

That will feed around 100k people.

If you say so.

 

[Abu Hesi]

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Inaa lilaahi, war meeshu xagardheer refugee camp bey u egtahaye

 

[Step a side]

What are these names? They don't look or sound af Somali at all.

Like @NidarNidar mentioned they are bastardised. Hawi Gudina (West Hararghe) or Hawiya Guda (East Hararghe) means where the Hawiye fought or conquered. Guda is like Dhabe. Dirir Dhabe means where the Dir or Dirir (war) was fought.

 

[Step a side]

Mieso and muli are hawiye areas right ?

Yeah Muli is literally the name of a sub clan of Gidir. It’s mostly Jiidle and Gaaljecel that live in Mieso-Muli amongst the Hawiye. Karanle are on the Oromia side towards Matahara and Hawash.

 

[Wabari]

What are these names? They don't look or sound af Somali at all.

They are not Somali Saxib, let’s be honest there is no reason for coping dulkas Oromo baa haysato! The people speak Oromo and if they try anything they will get butchered by Oromo Cawaans

 

[Step a side]

They are not Somali Saxib, let’s be honest there is no reason for coping dulkas Oromo baa haysato! The people speak Oromo and if they try anything they will get butchered by Oromo Cawaans

They speak Somali in Asebot, Mieso and Hawi Gudina.

 

[Burqad]

Bosaso is third

 

[Wabari]

They speak Somali in Asebot, Mieso and Hawi Gudina.

Asebot iska ilow Horta laakin Mieso are mostly Oromo speaking yes some do speak Somali but majority waa af Oromo idk why but Oromo culture and language seems to be more dominate them the Somali which is probably because they are under Oromia and Oromo don’t like outsiders

 

[Step a side]

Asebot iska ilow Horta laakin Mieso are mostly Oromo speaking yes some do speak Somali but majority waa af Oromo idk why but Oromo culture and language seems to be more dominate them the Somali which is probably because they are under Oromia and Oromo don’t like outsiders

Mieso has always been two districts. One is Mieso in Shinile Zone where they all speak Somali for obvious reasons and Mieso West Haraghe Zone where the “administrative language” is Afaan Oromo. The actual Mieso town where Hawiye have always been a minority (expanded onto it recently) is in Mieso district of Oromia. Same thing with Asebot and Bardode, although Hawiye form a significant portion today. Those towns have a right to be in Oromia.

 

[Wabari]

Mieso has always been two districts. One is Mieso in Shinile Zone where they all speak Somali for obvious reasons and Mieso West Haraghe Zone where the “administrative language” is Afaan Oromo. The actual Mieso town where Hawiye have always been a minority (expanded onto it recently) is in Mieso district of Oromia. Same thing with Asebot and Bardode, although Hawiye form a significant portion today. Those towns have a right to be in Oromia.

I am not arguing their right to be in Oromia, my point is that Somalis in Oromia are absolutely dominated by the dominate Oromo Culture and everthing that comes with it. We have seen it time and time again

 

[Step a side]

I am not arguing their right to be in Oromia, my point is that Somalis in Oromia are absolutely dominated by the dominate Oromo Culture and everthing that comes with it. We have seen it time and time again

Stay on topic saxib. They speak Somali in Mieso, Asabot, Hawi Gudina all 3 being in Oromia close to the Somali region. Only the ones deep in Oromia far away from K5 have lost their language but nevertheless still kept their lineage. I can’t speak for other tribes though.

Garaad Cali from Galbeed confirms this at 5:30. Only the ones deep in Oromia, Sidame etc have lost their language. Their lineage though is still intact.

 

[Wabari]

Stay on topic saxib. They speak Somali in Mieso, Asabot, Hawi Gudina all 3 being in Oromia close to the Somali region. Only the ones deep in Oromia far away from K5 have lost their language but nevertheless still kept their lineage. I can’t speak for other tribes though.

Garaad Cali from Galbeed confirms this at 5:30. Only the ones deep in Oromia, Sidame etc have lost their language. Their lineage though is still intact.

Anyways I commend the Karanle Hawiye People for fighting Oromos, maybe they did better then some Dir clans against all odds

 

[Step a side]

Anyways I commend the Karanle Hawiye People for fighting Oromos, maybe they did better then some Dir clans against all odds

Some families migrated willingly deep into Ethiopia to conduct business or spread Islam. These ones became assimilated but still know who they are lineage wise.

 

[Wabari]

Some families migrated willingly deep into Ethiopia to conduct business or spread Islam. These ones became assimilated but still know who they are lineage wise.

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Inshallah I would love to go see and meet these clans and even take dna in those regions, that’s on my bucket list

 

[GALAN]

the somali region mieso has been destroyed if your in Ethiopia or know anyone there you can go check your self outdated post.

Mieso has always been two districts. One is Mieso in Shinile Zone where they all speak Somali for obvious reasons and Mieso West Haraghe Zone where the “administrative language” is Afaan Oromo. The actual Mieso town where Hawiye have always been a minority (expanded onto it recently) is in Mieso district of Oromia. Same thing with Asebot and Bardode, although Hawiye form a significant portion today. Those towns have a right to be in Oromia.

 

[GALAN]

Like @NidarNidar mentioned they are bastardised. Hawi Gudina (West Hararghe) or Hawiya Guda (East Hararghe) means where the Hawiye fought or conquered. Guda is like Dhabe. Dirir Dhabe means where the Dir or Dirir (war) was fought.

bro? there is two hawiya doesn't necessarily mean they are one Hawiya itself is an oromo name. hawiya Guda does not mean where hawiya fought or conquered Hawiya Guda in oromo means the bigger hawiya Hawi also is afar oromo.