”Muslims are more normal less radicalized in muslim countries” Thoughts on this take in Twitter?

[Saintz]

 

[Saintz]

Somalis living in UK got to avoid mosques run by pakis. They operate with deobandi ideology which radicalized many british muslims to go to Syria to blow themselves up for Isis. Stick to civilized Sunni ideology

 

[Saintz]

By the way, this reminded me of a tweet by a Moroccan Brit. She was going on a rant about how in Morocco, it's normal for her to walk around in a skirt and nobody bats an eye. But in the UK, she gets harassed and policed by UK Muslim dudes.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I hate that they conflate Muslims who follow Quran and Sunnah with the khawarij.... you are an ordinary Muslim, you have a beard, you believe in the shariah, you are not some pro-lgbt liberal person shilling for your country's leftist party.... notice they try to find ways to conflate such people with the khawarij... I think that's what this twitter user is doing... because I think she posted some really horrible liberal revisionist take and now she's saying this after she rightfully got backlash... if by radicals we mean the khawarij, no problem... but some "liberal Muslim" person using it against ordinary Muslims who are sticking to Quran and Sunnah, to make them sound like khawarij, I am against that

 

[Angelina]

She is 100% right. Take it from someone who has actually lived in 3 Muslim countries. I know people who were raised in Muslim countries their entire lives and are confused by UK Muslims.

It’s UK Muslims who bring up slavery, no education for women and the other crazy takes that most Muslims in Muslim countries wouldn’t even entertain.

 

[Galool]

These people like to attack da'ees and "UK Muslims" because they are more religious and less influences by liberalism then in for example America.

It is a veiled attack against Islam. They hate that the UK diaspora is organized and very active in dawah.

Comparing them to Muslims in Muslim countries that have literal dictators who imprison Muslims in some countries even when they start growing a beard, is just another veiled attack against Islam.

Check out the accounts on twitter who usually launch those attacks almost always it is someone far from Islam with some Qawm Lut nonsense in their bio.

Muslims in Muslim countries are more repressed with outright dictatorship. Muslims in western countries grew up in here and understand what liberalism and hollywood spreads is a lie and are more active due to the laws being not at arbitrary.

Just like on this forum, first to swoop in and join attacks is saintz who always has takes attacking Islam and Muslims and the deviant Angelina who could not bring herself to say the Prophet SWS marriage was moral.

UK muslims are pioneers in the dawah scene and their influence has grown and affected other diaspora. Muslims in the west are becoming more practicing.

Cry about it.

 

[Do]

These people like to attack da'ees and "UK Muslims" because they are more religious and less influences by liberalism then in for example America.

It is a veiled attack against Islam. They hate that the UK diaspora is organized and very active in dawah.

Comparing them to Muslims in Muslim countries that have literal dictators who imprison Muslims in some countries even when they start growing a beard, is just another veiled attack against Islam.

Check out the accounts on twitter who usually launch those attacks almost always it is someone far from Islam with some Qawm Lut nonsense in their bio.

Muslims in Muslim countries are more repressed with outright dictatorship. Muslims in western countries grew up in here and understand what liberalism and hollywood spreads is a lie and are more active due to the laws being not at arbitrary.

Just like on this forum, first to swoop in and join attacks is saintz who always has takes attacking Islam and Muslims and the deviant Angelina who could not bring herself to say the Prophet SWS marriage was moral.

UK muslims are pioneers in the dawah scene and their influence has grown and affected other diaspora. Muslims in the west are becoming more practicing.

Cry about it.

@Saintz @Angelina

Tag them next time, fulay. I thought you took pride in defending Islam from "anti-Islam liberals" but you couldn't even bring yourself to confront them directly.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Check out the accounts on twitter who usually launch those attacks almost always it is someone far from Islam with some Qawm Lut nonsense in their bio.

I remembered this woman because I'd come across her on twitter before... this woman promotes... an interpretation of Islam that I don't think is Islam at all....

so- this is a version of Islam where there is no hierarchy? if people are going to play around with the dīn and make up new beliefs to suit their desires... what is even the point of praying salaah? if you go through the motions of five daily prayers and you don't even believe the Quran is the infallible kalaam of Allah and you don't simply submit to Quran and Sunnah- what is then the point of praying? If you don't actually believe in Quran and Sunnah then your salaah isn't valid.

this user is not just making it up that submitting to various authorities and hierarchical relationships is part of Islam. if someone has a problem with any part of Islam, it's their problem. but if we say that Islam involves such things- that is just the objective truth about Islam, there is nothing subjective or partisan about it. If someone has a problem with Islam that is their thing. But I submit to whatever the dīn says, questioning the dīn or any of its rulings- always it is a mistake. The dīn is always right and the people who disagree with it are always wrong in doing so.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

Shout out UK and their dawah scene and trying to keep away from bidah and jahiliyaa. They’re not perfect but i love their zeal and enthusiasm of staying on the haqq

As someone who lives in north america, with LOTS of muslims from different communities, we are not as strong in iman as the UK

If the people of desires and bidah support you, your doing something wrong

 

[Angelina]

These people like to attack da'ees and "UK Muslims" because they are more religious and less influences by liberalism then in for example America.

It is a veiled attack against Islam. They hate that the UK diaspora is organized and very active in dawah.

Comparing them to Muslims in Muslim countries that have literal dictators who imprison Muslims in some countries even when they start growing a beard, is just another veiled attack against Islam.

Check out the accounts on twitter who usually launch those attacks almost always it is someone far from Islam with some Qawm Lut nonsense in their bio.

Muslims in Muslim countries are more repressed with outright dictatorship. Muslims in western countries grew up in here and understand what liberalism and hollywood spreads is a lie and are more active due to the laws being not at arbitrary.

Just like on this forum, first to swoop in and join attacks is saintz who always has takes attacking Islam and Muslims and the deviant Angelina who could not bring herself to say the Prophet SWS marriage was moral.

UK muslims are pioneers in the dawah scene and their influence has grown and affected other diaspora. Muslims in the west are becoming more practicing.

Cry about it.

Ah the liar comes back, the liar who ran away when I asked him a simple question. I never said the marriage of the S.A.W to Aisha was immoral. Not once did I say that but when you’re a liar, you’d say that.

Your ilk lie and lie and when asked questions you run away.

Go back to the thread and answer the last question I asked you. When you asked if I thought the marriage of the Prophet s.a.w was moral I answered it but when I asked you the last question, you ran away.

For everyone giving Galool a like, just know he’s one of those extreme deviants found in the UK not found anywhere. He was in another thread defending the idea of women not being allowed to read and write. That’s what I mean about how weird a subsection of UK Muslims are. Extremists who are incredibly mad that they’ll debate if women should have any knowledge and fantasize about slavery when it’s banned everywhere.

 

[veryberry]

People that say stuff like this always sound like they’re pandering to the islamophobes online. Also muslims that call their fellow muslims ‘radical’ or ‘extremists’ are weird.
Obviously there are dawah broes that have platforms like that tidjani guy who basically hate women and are extremely intolerant and stuff like that should be called out.

 

[Periplus]

He was in another thread defending the idea of women not being allowed to read and write.

“Brothers is it haram to allow your wife to read at a third-grade level, Jazakumullah khairan”

 

[Angelina]

“Brothers is it haram to allow your wife to read at a third-grade level, Jazakumullah khairan”

It is haram for your womenfolk to write sir, she’ll write love letters to non Mahrams!

 

[Periplus]

These people like to attack da'ees and "UK Muslims" because they are more religious and less influences by liberalism then in for example America.

It is a veiled attack against Islam. They hate that the UK diaspora is organized and very active in dawah.

Comparing them to Muslims in Muslim countries that have literal dictators who imprison Muslims in some countries even when they start growing a beard, is just another veiled attack against Islam.

Check out the accounts on twitter who usually launch those attacks almost always it is someone far from Islam with some Qawm Lut nonsense in their bio.

Muslims in Muslim countries are more repressed with outright dictatorship. Muslims in western countries grew up in here and understand what liberalism and hollywood spreads is a lie and are more active due to the laws being not at arbitrary.

Just like on this forum, first to swoop in and join attacks is saintz who always has takes attacking Islam and Muslims and the deviant Angelina who could not bring herself to say the Prophet SWS marriage was moral.

UK muslims are pioneers in the dawah scene and their influence has grown and affected other diaspora. Muslims in the west are becoming more practicing.

Cry about it.

This is false. The reason UK Da’ees get a bad reputation is because they seem more focused on garnering attention than spreading meaningful knowledge.

I live in Australia, in which many da’ees are not liberal. Mohammad Hoblos is one of the most known. We also have the One Path Network, which are social media accounts that provide Islamic content.

These individuals in Australia do not commentate on influencer activities or Twitter discussions or create fitnah in the community with “click bait headlines”.

It is very clear from looking at Ali Dawah and Mohammad Hijab for example, that they see themselves as content creators first and da’ees second.

This is shown by their thumbnails and titles of their videos, their content and their collaboration with controversial figures.

I’ll await your expected ad hominem response

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

They're the most religious in the Muslim world. Non-practising Muslims will have a harder time in London than in Somalia (outside of Al Shabab areas).

 

[Galool]

Ah the liar comes back, the liar who ran away when I asked him a simple question. I never said the marriage of the S.A.W to Aisha was immoral. Not once did I say that but when you’re a liar, you’d say that.

Your ilk lie and lie and when asked questions you run away.

Go back to the thread and answer the last question I asked you. When you asked if I thought the marriage of the Prophet s.a.w was moral I answered it but when I asked you the last question, you ran away.

For everyone giving Galool a like, just know he’s one of those extreme deviants found in the UK not found anywhere. He was in another thread defending the idea of women not being allowed to read and write. That’s what I mean about how weird a subsection of UK Muslims are. Extremists who are incredibly mad that they’ll debate if women should have any knowledge and fantasize about slavery when it’s banned everywhere.

Notice even here, instead of saying the Prophet SWS marriage to Aisha was moral, you changed my claim completely.

I never said you said it was immoral (although it was implied) I said you would not call it moral, anyone can read my above statement as well as the other thread you humiliated and exposed yourself in.

Instead of calling me a liar after changing my claim. State that the Prophet SWS marriage to Aisha is MORAL.

Not “ I didn’t say it was immoral”.

Say instead, The Prophet SWS marriage to Aisha at 6 and consumation at 9 is MORAL.

I didn’t answer your silly question because it was a desperate attempt for you to deflect from the discussion.

you utterly exposed yourself in that thread it was humiliating watching you squirm and ignothe question.

As you’re repeating now.

You’re a deviant and a feminist your opinions on Islam and Muslims are utterly irrelevant but you can keep your nonsense claims limited to laughing with liberals and murtads on a forum, it’s fitting.

 

[Angelina]

Notice even here, instead of saying the Prophet SWS marriage to Aisha was moral, you changed my claim completely.

I never said you said it was immoral (although it was implied) I said you would not call it moral, anyone can read my above statement as well as the other thread you humiliated and exposed yourself in.

Instead of calling me a liar after changing my claim. State that the Prophet SWS marriage to Aisha is MORAL.

Not “ I didn’t say it was immoral”.

Say instead, The Prophet SWS marriage to Aisha at 6 and consumation at 9 is MORAL.

When you accuse someone of not saying/ believing it’s moral, what you’re accusing that person of is that they believe it was immoral. Don’t try and play dumb here and engage in word play.

It was moral. How about that? Not once did I say his marriage was immoral and I made myself clear in that other thread you liar. The thing is anything done by the Prophet s.a.w is moral in my eyes.

I didn’t answer your silly question because it was a desperate attempt for you to deflect from the discussion.

It wasn’t a desperate attempt and it had everything to do with the discussion and you know it.

You simply find that question uncomfortable because deep down you’re not as trad as you make it seem. You pick and choose and you can’t admit to it. Let’s see how by the book you are.

you utterly exposed yourself in that thread it was humiliating watching you squirm and ignothe question.

As you’re repeating now.

Nothing humiliating because at the end of it? It was you who ran off not I. I have nothing to hide and I’ve always been transparent.

You’re a deviant and a feminist your opinions on Islam and Muslims are utterly irrelevant but you can keep your nonsense claims limited to laughing with liberals and murtads on a forum, it’s fitting.

You’re a deviant who is utterly immoral and misogynistic who calls people feminist because they believe women shouldn’t be banned from an education.

Nothing I say, goes against Islam, it is YOU who wants to ban stuff because of your sickening hatred of women. You’re sick in the head.

Youre also a hypocrite. Look at you wanting to ban female education whilst also defending a man trying to engage in misyr marriage that Zaid guy? How do you claim to believe in traditionalism whilst trying to championing a marriage set up that’s wholly immoral and is based on women not depending on their husbands and being kept a secret from his family like a side chick? Men like you pick and choose . You’ll say education is haram whilst wanting women to be independent if it means you can use them on the side.

We can all see the sick type of man you are and the liar to boot you are. You’re a liar a big one at that!

Now answer my question like I did yours! At least I’m consistent with my principles. You’re not.

 

[Galool]

When you accuse someone of not saying/ believing it’s moral, what you’re accusing that person of is that they believe it was immoral. Don’t try and play dumb here and engage in word play.

It was moral. How about that? Not once did I say his marriage was immoral and I made myself clear in that other thread you liar. The thing is anything done by the Prophet s.a.w is moral in my eyes.



It wasn’t a desperate attempt and it had everything to do with the discussion and you know it.

You simply find that question uncomfortable because deep down you’re not as trad as you make it seem. You pick and choose and you can’t admit to it. Let’s see how by the book you are.

Nothing humiliating because at the end of it? It was you who ran off not I. I have nothing to hide and I’ve always been transparent.

You’re a deviant who is utterly immoral and misogynistic who calls people feminist because they believe women shouldn’t be banned from an education.

Nothing I say, goes against Islam, it is YOU who wants to ban stuff because of your sickening hatred of women. You’re sick in the head.

Youre also a hypocrite. Look at you wanting to ban female education whilst also defending a man trying to engage in misyr marriage that Zaid guy? How do you claim to believe in traditionalism whilst trying to championing a marriage set up that’s wholly immoral and is based on women not depending on their husbands and being kept a secret from his family like a side chick? Men like you pick and choose . You’ll say education is haram whilst wanting women to be independent if it means you can use them on the side.

We can all see the sick type of man you are and the liar to boot you are. You’re a liar a big one at that!

Now answer my question like I did yours! At least I’m consistent with my principles. You’re not.

Congratulations, you just did what you tried to avoid in the other thread.

I would advise you to take it to its logical end. What is moral then is always moral.

The Prophet sws is an example to all of mankind and the best man to walk the earth.

 

[Angelina]

Congratulations, you just did what you tried to avoid in the other thread.

I would advise you to take it to its logical end. What is moral then is always moral.

The Prophet sws is an example to all of mankind and the best man to walk the earth.

Yes, you’re right he was indeed the best of men. The prophet s.a.w married 10+ wives, you’re only allowed 4. You’re not the same.

Plus, he consummated his marriage with Aisha when she hit puberty. But we know know the classical opinion on the matter when it comes to religious ruling, now I want you to answer the question I asked you last time.

We all know a modern grade 4 child hasn’t reached puberty, can’t consent and doesn’t have the body of a woman.

 

[Basra]

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Of course they do. Lots of time in their hands and Social media Khutbah. Not to mention- if u r a loser and no job- and someone is preaching you are 100 and women 50-- women are below. U will think u r not a loser anymore.

in arab countries- they busy finding a bread and butter