Random Oromo history thread!

Zayn

Visionary from Garbaharey
Idk if it was a troll but I saw an Oromo claim they were native to Somalia so @Abba Sadacha do you also feel that way that you were natives to Somalia and were forcefully removed from there?
 
Idk if it was a troll but I saw an Oromo claim they were native to Somalia so @Abba Sadacha do you also feel that way that you were natives to Somalia and were forcefully removed from there?


if anything, we may have had been in what is now somali land, but more as over lords, who overstretched themselves. but not somalia proper, as in, the south. our homelands are within ethiopia, and parts of kenya. this is my belief.
but i do believe groups like the sab/rahanweyn, have oromo blood and i can post proof for it if you wish.
 
Very interesting. Who is the common ancestor a lot of Oromo's claim? We have Samaale for example, but what do you guys claim?


Some are Somali in origin, some are not. I feel very sorry, but that is what happens in conquests. Just like the Irish language shifted to English.


we believe that most, if not all oromos, claim descent from 2 major groups- boorana and bareentu.
bareentu groups include: arsi, afran qallo groups, karrayu, wallo oromos, among others.
borana groups include: maccaa-my clan, tuulama, samaale [sound familiar?], Rayyaa [they live among the tigrayans and speak their language for the most part], etc
 
we believe that most, if not all oromos, claim descent from 2 major groups- boorana and bareentu.
bareentu groups include: arsi, afran qallo groups, karrayu, wallo oromos, among others.
borana groups include: maccaa-my clan, tuulama, samaale [sound familiar?], Rayyaa [they live among the tigrayans and speak their language for the most part], etc
Wow, so you're Borana? Very cool. This Samaale group are pure Oromo, I am guessing.
 
if anything, we may have had been in what is now somali land, but more as over lords, who overstretched themselves. but not somalia proper, as in, the south. our homelands are within ethiopia, and parts of kenya. this is my belief.
but i do believe groups like the sab/rahanweyn, have oromo blood and i can post proof for it if you wish.

Can you post proof of that
 

Zayn

Visionary from Garbaharey
if anything, we may have had been in what is now somali land, but more as over lords, who overstretched themselves. but not somalia proper, as in, the south. our homelands are within ethiopia, and parts of kenya. this is my belief.
but i do believe groups like the sab/rahanweyn, have oromo blood and i can post proof for it if you wish.
Ik Raxanweyn have Oromo blood but I thought all of you (Oromos) had that belief that Somalia belonged to you guys. I guess that guy was a troll then
 
Is afaan oromo and borana language mutually intelligible? do u still practice gada system?


Yes it is my brother. and most oromos no longer practice it, but some still do, and there's a growing interest in incorporating some of its tenets/practices, in oromo's government/politics/etc
 
Wow, so you're Borana? Very cool. This Samaale group are pure Oromo, I am guessing.

Well, I descend from them, since all Oromo clans and sub clans, either come from boorana, or bareentu.
I need to learn more about samaale, but it's an interesting name obviously.
we are related, somalis and oromos, for better or worse, hate us or not.
 
Yes it is my brother. and most oromos no longer practice it, but some still do, and there's a growing interest in incorporating some of its tenets/practices, in oromo's government/politics/etc
Is afaan oromo and borana language mutually intelligible?
 
''A railway has been projected to run from the French port of Jibuti, Tajura Bay, through Elba in the Harar district to Addis Ababa.
The coast section was in progress in 1901, and should it ever be completed the whole way, which seems doubtful, Jibuti must become the chief outlet for the rich and varied produce of Oromoland, much of which at present finds its way by the old caravan route through the Arsi territory to the British ports of Zeila, Bulhar, and Berbera, on the Gulf of Aden.
This route, followed from time immemorial by the Arsi and Ittu Oromos, is scarcely known to the outer world, and has not yet been followed by any European traveller.
It was known, however, to Cecchi, who was informed by the native traders that beyond Harar it turns sharply round to the west as far as the neighborhood of Ankober, where it bifurcates, one branch penetrating into Shoa over the Ittu chain, the other turning south-west and reaching South-Ethiopia over a pass in the Arsi range.
By this trade route Harar is reached in a month from the remotest confines of Kaffa, and in 2 or 3 weeks from the heart of Oromo-land, whereas the northern routes through Abyssinia proper to Massawa and Assab are both much longer and far more difficult.
The chief distances are:- Massawa by Saati and Asmara to Adua/Adwa, capital of Tigre, 104 miles; Adua to Sakota, converging point of several trade routes from the coast and the interior, 110; Sokota to the Italian port of Assab, 240 ; Sokota to Basso, the great market of Gojjam, near the Shoa frontier, 180; Basso to Leqa, the great market of Oromo-land, 120; Leqa to Bonga, the great market of Kaffa, 115 ; Bonga to Harar over the Arsi range, 270 ; Harar to the coast of Zeila and Jibuti, 192 and 130.

The Ethiopian uplands appear to have been originally peopled by the eastern branch of the Hamitic family, which has occupied this region from the remotest times, and still constitute the great bulk of its inhabitants.
But their domain was encroached upon probably in the Stone Age, but certainly before the historic period, both by the uncultured negroes of the white nile and by the culture himyaritic semites from south arabia.
The presence of these elements is still conscpicuous, especially in Northern Ethiopia, where the blends between blacks, hamites and semites are so numerous and widespread that the natives, who call themselves ''Itiopiawin [Ethiopians], are known to the Arabs as Habashi ''mixed,'' whence our terms ''Abyssinia'' and ''Abyssinians.''


[The Encyclopaedia Britannica ...: A Dictionary of Arts, Sciences and General Literature ... in Thirty Volumes with New American Supplement, Volume 25; Published in 1902
Pages 14-16]
 
''After conquering Harar in 1887, Ethiopian forces under the command of Ras Makonnen started coercing the Isa, Gadabursi, Habr Awal and the Somalis of Haud and Ogaden. The Ethiopians opened a post in 1891 at Bio-Kaboba among the Gadabursi Somalis who on paper lived under British protection. The frequency and intensity of Ethiopian raids had increased so much that the India office complained to the Foreign Office in early 1893 about ''the oppressive proceedings of the Abyssinians'' in regard to the levy of a daily tribute of sheep on the Yunus Jibril section of the Jibril Abokr Somalis and also of the repeated devastation of the Ogaden country. Moreover towards the south the Ethiopians had penetrated the Juba river and Lugh and in the north they claimed authority over the Isa Somalis.''

[Anglo-Ethiopian Relations, 1869 to 1906: A Study of British Policy in Ethiopia, page 121]
 
''After conquering Harar in 1887, Ethiopian forces under the command of Ras Makonnen started coercing the Isa, Gadabursi, Habr Awal and the Somalis of Haud and Ogaden. The Ethiopians opened a post in 1891 at Bio-Kaboba among the Gadabursi Somalis who on paper lived under British protection. The frequency and intensity of Ethiopian raids had increased so much that the India office complained to the Foreign Office in early 1893 about ''the oppressive proceedings of the Abyssinians'' in regard to the levy of a daily tribute of sheep on the Yunus Jibril section of the Jibril Abokr Somalis and also of the repeated devastation of the Ogaden country. Moreover towards the south the Ethiopians had penetrated the Juba river and Lugh and in the north they claimed authority over the Isa Somalis.''

[Anglo-Ethiopian Relations, 1869 to 1906: A Study of British Policy in Ethiopia, page 121]
How is this related to oromo history?
So you are emplying Ethiopian history is oromo history just like you stole the harar history is the way you want to steal amhara history.

Menelik was amhara supremacists and oromos were his slaves.
 
How is this related to oromo history?
So you are emplying Ethiopian history is oromo history just like you stole the harar history is the way you want to steal amhara history.

Menelik was amhara supremacists and oromos were his slaves.

because they couldn't conquer harar without conquering oromo's first. so it does relate to us. the same way that, they couldn't get to ogaden, without conquering the oromo clans in between them. get it yet, my angry ogadeni friend?
and oromos are ethiopians too, at least until the states go their separate ways, if that does happen.
 
because they couldn't conquer harar without conquering oromo's first. so it does relate to us. the same way that, they couldn't get to ogaden, without conquering the oromo clans in between them. get it yet, my angry ogadeni friend?
and oromos are ethiopians too, at least until the states go their separate ways, if that does happen.
Naah if they conquered oromos what makes them not being able to conquere Harar?

You have been writting alot of fakenews and trying to sell oromo propaganda here.

The only angry people are you gallas you are fighting your own Abye galla.
If Abye was amhara I dont think Oromos would fight him bit rather kiss his ass.
 

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