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? im not getting it, so they have yoga in somalia, so what?


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For many people, the main concern in a yoga class is whether they are breathing correctly or their legs are aligned. But for others, there are lingering doubts about whether they should be there at all, or whether they are betraying their religion.

Farida Hamza, a Muslim woman living in the US (pictured above), had been doing yoga for two or three years when she decided she wanted to teach it.

"When I told my family and a few friends, they did not react positively," she recalls. "They were very confused as to why I wanted to do it - that it might be going against Islam."

Their suspicions about yoga are shared by many Muslims, Christians and Jews around the world and relate to yoga's history as an ancient spiritual practice with connections to Hinduism and Buddhism.

Last year, a yoga class was banned from a church hall in the UK. "Yoga is a Hindu spiritual exercise," said the priest, Father John Chandler. "Being a Catholic church we have to promote the gospel, and that's what we use our premises for." Anglican churches in the UK have taken similar decisions at one time or another. In the US, prominent pastors have called yoga "demonic".

One answer to the question of whether yoga really is a religious activity will soon be given by the Supreme Court in the country of its birth, India.

Last month, a pro-yoga group petitioned the court to make it a compulsory part of the school syllabus on health grounds - but state schools in India are avowedly secular. The court said it was uncomfortable with the idea, and will gather the views of minority groups in the coming weeks.

So is yoga fundamentally a religious activity?

"Yoga is such a broad term - that's what causes a difficulty," says Rebecca Ffrench, the co-founder YogaLondon - a yoga teacher academy - and the philosophy tutor at the school.

There are different forms of yoga, she says, some of which are more overtly religious than others. Hare Krishna monks, for example, are adherents of bhakti yoga, the yoga of devotion. What most people in the West think of as yoga is properly known as hatha yoga - a path towards enlightenment that focuses on building physical and mental strength.

But what "enlightenment" means also depends on tradition. For some Hindus it is liberation from the cycle of reincarnation, but for many yoga practitioners it is a point where you achieve stillness in your mind, or understand the true nature of the world and your place in it.

Whether that is compatible with Christianity, Islam and other religions is debatable.

To those in the know, for example, the yogic asanas, or positions, retain elements of their earlier spiritual meanings - the Surya namaskar is a series of positions designed to greet Surya, the Hindu Sun God.

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Image captionThe Surya Namaskar or Sun Salutations
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For many people, the main concern in a yoga class is whether they are breathing correctly or their legs are aligned. But for others, there are lingering doubts about whether they should be there at all, or whether they are betraying their religion.

Farida Hamza, a Muslim woman living in the US (pictured above), had been doing yoga for two or three years when she decided she wanted to teach it.

"When I told my family and a few friends, they did not react positively," she recalls. "They were very confused as to why I wanted to do it - that it might be going against Islam."

Their suspicions about yoga are shared by many Muslims, Christians and Jews around the world and relate to yoga's history as an ancient spiritual practice with connections to Hinduism and Buddhism.

Last year, a yoga class was banned from a church hall in the UK. "Yoga is a Hindu spiritual exercise," said the priest, Father John Chandler. "Being a Catholic church we have to promote the gospel, and that's what we use our premises for." Anglican churches in the UK have taken similar decisions at one time or another. In the US, prominent pastors have called yoga "demonic".

One answer to the question of whether yoga really is a religious activity will soon be given by the Supreme Court in the country of its birth, India.

Last month, a pro-yoga group petitioned the court to make it a compulsory part of the school syllabus on health grounds - but state schools in India are avowedly secular. The court said it was uncomfortable with the idea, and will gather the views of minority groups in the coming weeks.

So is yoga fundamentally a religious activity?

"Yoga is such a broad term - that's what causes a difficulty," says Rebecca Ffrench, the co-founder YogaLondon - a yoga teacher academy - and the philosophy tutor at the school.

There are different forms of yoga, she says, some of which are more overtly religious than others. Hare Krishna monks, for example, are adherents of bhakti yoga, the yoga of devotion. What most people in the West think of as yoga is properly known as hatha yoga - a path towards enlightenment that focuses on building physical and mental strength.

But what "enlightenment" means also depends on tradition. For some Hindus it is liberation from the cycle of reincarnation, but for many yoga practitioners it is a point where you achieve stillness in your mind, or understand the true nature of the world and your place in it.

Whether that is compatible with Christianity, Islam and other religions is debatable.

To those in the know, for example, the yogic asanas, or positions, retain elements of their earlier spiritual meanings - the Surya namaskar is a series of positions designed to greet Surya, the Hindu Sun God.

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Image captionThe Surya Namaskar or Sun Salutations
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25006926
stretching predates hinduism lol, try it some time
 

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stretching predates hinduism lol, try it some time
Yeah sure while we are at it why don’t we rock back and forth towards a wall like the Jews do the walling-wall since rocking back and forth predates Judaism, clearly you are not capable of doing your own Critical thinking.
 

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Yeah sure while we are at it why don’t we rock back and forth towards a wall like the Jews do the walling-wall, clearly you are not capable of doing your own Critical thinking.
not equivalent, ones a religious practice, the others a basic human need physically devoid of religion and predates it, if a new religion comes and says our ritual is breathing do you stop breathing?
 

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not equivalent, ones a religious practice, the others a basic human need physically devoid of religion and predates it, if a new religion comes and says our ritual is breathing do you stop breathing?

To those in the know, for example, the yogic asanas, or positions, retain elements of their earlier spiritual meanings - the Suryanamaskar is a series of positions designed to greet Surya, the Hindu Sun God.

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Lets just agree to disagree

Why do we muslims pray five times a day why do we bow or prostrate, oh I forget stretching predates religion kkk
 

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Garoowe ayaa waxa lagu qabtay xuska maalinta caalamiga ee ciyaarta Yoga, waxaana ka qaybgalay safiirka Hindiya u fadhiya Soomaaliya iyo qaar ka mid ah shacabka Soomaaliyeed.

Jimicsiga Yoga ayaa caan ka ah wadamada Aasiya, gaar ahaan dalka Hindiya, waxana xuskan soo qabanqaabiyay wasaaradda Haweenka Puntlnd oo gacan ka helaysa safaaradda Hindiya ee Soomaaliya.


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For your info, xamar also did yoga so stop accusing everything to PL. When media hear any news from PL, they will publish it. Even ilyaas case it happens on Jeegaan and south Somalia. But guess what PL on the spot even if its less than others!.
 

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For your info, xamar also did yoga so stop accusing everything to PL. When media hear any news from PL, they will publish it. Even ilyaas case it happens on Jeegaan and south Somalia. But guess what PL on the spot even if its less than others!.
I cant speak for Mogadishu which belongs to hawiye or hargaysa which belings to isaaq cause i am not from Mogadishu or hargaysa boowe i am from bosaso puntland why are you telling me about foreign lands which don't concern me?
 

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I cant speak for Mogadishu which belongs to hawiye or hargaysa which belings to isaaq cause i am not from Mogadishu or hargaysa boowe i am from bosaso puntland why are you telling me about foreign lands which don't concern me?

Cog has no right to speak waryaa nacas yahow doqonka ah @FBIsomalia. Where you think his idealogy of islamist got funding? it's from 91 bililiqo in Hamar, they stole Mj home sold it and earned 100k and reinvested into hormuud thru shares and growed their 100k investment to a few millions now. They did this with all the factories and ministries that existed in Mogadishu. The mosque he prays in has 'funds' from telecommunication shareholders which is HARAM, since we know the root of it is thru 91 bililiqo. So his masjid is not dahir at all, waa shaydhan kani, waa burcad diimeed oo masjid ku dhistay lacag haram ah.

I am suprised you think @Cognitivedissonance inu niin diini yahay? you are insane sxb. Just because someone has a big beard doesn't mean he didn't source his wealth from 91 bililiqo and then grow a big beard. His a fkn little moryan sxb oo illahi ka xishoon, hence dont expect he gives a shit about u.
 

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Cog has no right to speak waryaa nacas yahow doqonka ah @FBIsomalia. Where you think his idealogy of islamist got funding? it's from 91 bililiqo in Hamar, they stole Mj home sold it and earned 100k and reinvested into hormuud thru shares and growed their 100k investment to a few millions now. They did this with all the factories and ministries that existed in Mogadishu. The mosque he prays in has 'funds' from telecommunication shareholders which is HARAM, since we know the root of it is thru 91 bililiqo. So his masjid is not dahir at all, waa shaydhan kani, waa burcad diimeed oo masjid ku dhistay lacag haram ah.

I am suprised you think @Cognitivedissonance inu niin diini yahay? you are insane sxb. Just because someone has a big beard doesn't mean he didn't source his wealth from 91 bililiqo and then grow a big beard. His a fkn little moryan sxb oo illahi ka xishoon, hence dont expect he gives a shit about u.
Kkk as far as i am concerned adiga maxa tahay nin cad Australian ah cause you have been assimilated into their way of life.

Dr Osman i bet you even celebrate chrismas :russ::lolbron:
 

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Kkk as far as i am concerned adiga maxa tahay nin cad Australian ah cause you have been assimilated into their way of life.

Dr Osman i bet you even celebrate chrismas :russ::lolbron:

At least I don't listen burcad diimeed sheikhs like you who sourced their wealth from 91. Cause they can't prove where else they got it from, cause it surely wasn't before 91 under siyad cause you were little shoe-shining kids, we remember your sheikh origins, waryaa. I don't listen to those sheikhs like u do, a burcad diimeed. I only listen to bah dubays halal sheikhs who never participated is politics. Your sheikhs do.
 

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At least I don't listen burcad diimeed sheikhs like you who sourced their wealth from 91. Cause they can't prove where else they got it from, cause it surely wasn't before 91 under siyad cause you were little shoe-shining kids, we remember your sheikh origins, waryaa. I don't listen to those sheikhs like u do, a burcad diimeed. I only listen to bah dubays halal sheikhs who never participated is politics. Your sheikhs do.
Bradar you are from nugaal i dont really know much about your people in nugaal and you dont know nothing about my people from bari so why dont you stick to nugaal and leave bari to me.
 

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Bradar you are from nugaal i dont really know much about your people in nugaal and you dont know nothing about my people from bari so why dont you stick to nugaal and leave bari to me.

That's true u know nothing about nugaal cause you don't have a history here nor a modern presence. I have a modern presence in Nugaal( I didn't flee today sxb) I am still there, I am not bah dirooble fearing all the issa mahmouds surrounding me. I am landheere landheere dhalay ma garatay. That's what happened to you, you got surrounded by ali saleban and siwaqroon and fled didn't you? Langaab waxid ina gumeedka ah. I have history in bari so don't tell me I don't know bari. My second fuckin awoowe is buried there. So I CAN SPEAK OF IT since I know what happens there.
 

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That's true u know nothing about nugaal cause you don't have a history here nor a modern presence. I have a modern presence in Nugaal( I didn't flee today sxb) I am still there, I am not bah dirooble fearing all the issa mahmouds surrounding me. I am landheere landheere dhalay ma garatay. That's what happened to you, you got surrounded by ali saleban and siwaqroon and fled didn't you? Langaab waxid ina gumeedka ah. I have history in bari so don't tell me I don't know bari. My second fuckin awoowe is buried there. So I CAN SPEAK OF IT since I know what happens there.
Cali saleeban and siwaaqroon are my people we share land with them gobolka gardaful we share with siwaaqroon and gobolka bari we share with cali saleeban and gobolka karkaar we share with the rest of cismaan maxamud but you i dont share anything with boowe we are not from the same region honestly i dont know anything about nugaal.

You are bitter cause you are a laangaab who settles just in nugaal gobol whereas bah dirooble inhabit three gobols bari, karkaar and gardaful:ahh:
 

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Puntites especially Reer Mudug supported PM Abdiweli Sheikh Ahmed just how Reer Nugaal supported PM Abdi shirdoon both men were judged by their dacadnimo wanting to create peace and horumar unlike Kheyre who is destroying and fueling instability. Kheyre is the least supported PM ever in Puntland especially in Mudug where the other PMs who were damu-jadid managed to gain people's trust.

Stop making baseless delusional statements it won't change anything people back home ain't stupid unlike diaspora youths who believe their own lives.
 

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Did anyone claiming puntites support N&N and kheyre even listen to this clip:gnzbryw:
Stop talking rubbish you watched the clip and heard what asho geele said? Deni yoga refused khayre entery into galkacyo part of puntland but the people of mudug puntland refused asho geele being one of them she clearly states khayre is her prime minister and the people of mudug puntland and puntland in general support their prime minister khayre.

Deni yoga made a direct order to refuse entery to khayre in puntland side of mudug but the people of mudug disobeyed deni yoga and welcomed prime minister khayre guuuul iyo gobonimo weeye
 

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Puntites especially Reer Mudug supported PM Abdiweli Sheikh Ahmed just how Reer Nugaal supported PM Abdi shirdoon both men were judged by their dacadnimo wanting to create peace and horumar unlike Kheyre who is destroying and fueling instability. Kheyre is the least supported PM ever in Puntland especially in Mudug where the other PMs who were damu-jadid managed to gain people's trust.

Stop making baseless delusional statements it won't change anything people back home ain't stupid unlike diaspora youths who believe their own lives.
You are delusional the people of mudug disobeyed deni yoga when he said khayre is not allowed entry into puntland and instead welcomed khayre with open arms it goes to show that the people of puntland stand with the federal government of somalia not deni yoga the governor of puntland.

We aint talking about reer nugaal supporting this prime minister or reer mudug supporting that prime minister, we are speaking about puntlanders refusing to carry out deni yoga orders in puntland and choosing prime minister khayre over deni yoga in puntland side of galkacyo.
 

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@Cognitivedissonance you said you fled gurdafu for siwaqroon, bari you said dashishe is pushing out, and in iskushuban your being pushed out by ali saleban. This is what you said. I asked you where are bah dirooble in northern bari, you said they LEFT and resettled Qardho. Qardho has nothing to do with you so stop claiming shit, go back to your house. You don't reside anywhere below isku shuban to bayla to dangarayo. All that area is other osman mahmouds. In particulay Bah Yacqoub. What you going to claim 'haji kheyr' in karkaar also?

A true bitter langaab who lost his lands of calula, bargaal, and hafun. His losing iskushuban. A mighty langaab that needs a good karbash since he understands no other language but a karbash followed by bah dirooble migration
 

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The fine line at 'isku shuban' is your last territory. You do not reside anywhere below that line. The rest of karkaar is other osman mahmouds. Stop being a mighty langaab waryaa, go back home. Your home is Gardafu and Bari only up untill iskushuban. You reside from Iskushuban to hafun to bargaal to caluula up to murcanyo. But you lost hafun, you lost, bargaal, you lost caluula, you only have murcanyo left.

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@Cognitivedissonance you said you fled gurdafu for siwaqroon, bari you said dashishe is pushing out, and in iskushuban your being pushed out by ali saleban. This is what you said. I asked you where are bah dirooble in northern bari, you said they LEFT and resettled Qardho. Qardho has nothing to do with you so stop claiming shit, go back to your house. You don't reside anywhere below isku shuban to bayla to dangarayo. All that area is other osman mahmouds. In particulay Bah Yacqoub. What you going to claim 'haji kheyr' in karkaar also?

A true bitter langaab who lost his lands of calula, bargaal, and hafun. His losing iskushuban. A mighty langaab that needs a good karbash since he understands no other language but a karbash followed by bah dirooble migration
I agree that bah dirooble need to build their regions but unfortunately for now they are hard to access cause of the infrastructure theres no roads its cut off from the rest of puntland.

I never said anything about disheshe or cai saleeban or siwaqroon you are not from bari and all those subclans you mentioned are my fellow reer bari its true that we share bosaso district with disheshe and also cali saleeban in carmo likewise we share garaful with siwaqroon.
 

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