Afro Asiatic languages compared

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Can somebody explain to me how Amharic is Semitic? Lol
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Tigre and Amhara are from south Arabia they are descended from Himyaric, ancient Arabic. So is Harari and other Gurage languages too
 

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Tigre and Amhara are from south Arabia they are descended from Himyaric, ancient Arabic. So is Harari and other Gurage languages too

That is false. Harari or Harla you would like to call it are decedents of Himyarite while Abyssinians specifically Amhara and Tigray are a decedent of Sabaeans.
 
That is false. Harari or Harla you would like to call it are decedents of Himyarite while Abyssinians specifically Amhara and Tigray are a decedent of Sabaeans.

A link might be interesting. The king lists for Saba and Himyar are the same.
( https://everipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Saba_and_Himyar/) This says Amharic descends from Himyaritic and that Amhar is an altered version of Himyar.

https://www.turkaramamotoru.com/en/himyaritic-language-1154339.html

'Amharic, the language of the Amhara and official language of Ethiopia is likely an altered form of Himyaritic, according to the "Penny Cyclopaedia of the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge" p 451 Dr Steven L Danver, also wrote in "Native Peoples of the World: An Encyclopedia of Groups, Cultures, and Contemporary Issues"p 15, that the name "Amhara" the Amharic-speaking Ethio-Semitic people inhabiting the Ethiopian plateau is believed to be derived from Himyarites."

I also found this Wiki-talk page of interest. Harari has a Sidama substructure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Harari_people

It would indeed make sense if the Harla originally spoke a Cushitic language because the Harari language itself contains a Sidama substratum. This suggests that the initial inhabitants of the Harar region spoke a Sidama language and only later adopted the Harari language, in the process retaining certain features of their original Sidama tongue ("Cerulli (1926:440) has analysed Harari, the language spoken at Harar, and has concluded that the Sidama language formed the substratum on which Harari was originally superimposed" [12]). This is further supported by the fact that the Gurage language, which is closely related to Harari, likewise has a Sidama substratum ("The hypothesis that the ethnogenesis of the Gurage took place on a substratum of Cushitic- speaking "Sidama" populations is common among the scholars engaged on that problem" [13]). Middayexpress (talk) 14:56, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 
A link might be interesting. The king lists for Saba and Himyar are the same.
( https://everipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Saba_and_Himyar/) This says Amharic descends from Himyaritic and that Amhar is an altered version of Himyar.

https://www.turkaramamotoru.com/en/himyaritic-language-1154339.html

'Amharic, the language of the Amhara and official language of Ethiopia is likely an altered form of Himyaritic, according to the "Penny Cyclopaedia of the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge" p 451 Dr Steven L Danver, also wrote in "Native Peoples of the World: An Encyclopedia of Groups, Cultures, and Contemporary Issues"p 15, that the name "Amhara" the Amharic-speaking Ethio-Semitic people inhabiting the Ethiopian plateau is believed to be derived from Himyarites."

I also found this Wiki-talk page of interest. Harari has a Sidama substructure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Harari_people

It would indeed make sense if the Harla originally spoke a Cushitic language because the Harari language itself contains a Sidama substratum. This suggests that the initial inhabitants of the Harar region spoke a Sidama language and only later adopted the Harari language, in the process retaining certain features of their original Sidama tongue ("Cerulli (1926:440) has analysed Harari, the language spoken at Harar, and has concluded that the Sidama language formed the substratum on which Harari was originally superimposed" [12]). This is further supported by the fact that the Gurage language, which is closely related to Harari, likewise has a Sidama substratum ("The hypothesis that the ethnogenesis of the Gurage took place on a substratum of Cushitic- speaking "Sidama" populations is common among the scholars engaged on that problem" [13]). Middayexpress (talk) 14:56, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
I think we should look at Ge'ez as the origin of these languages. It is the oldest of them, and has more root words and vocabulary in common with languages like Arabic and OSA. Amharic is just a really altered descendant of Ge'ez or maybe Tigrinya, where it borrows the ch sound and a lot of grammar most likely from exchange with Oromo. Amharic downgrades most of the original pronounciation by removing sounds whereas Tigrinya and Tigre have substantially more connection with Ge'ez. I'm not really sure about Harari which is probably closer to Ge'ez than Amharic based off of what I heard from it.
 
Omotic was the first language to isolate from Afro Asaitic. That why it does not resemble much like its relatives Cushitic, Semeitic, coptic and berber.

I have site that does reconstruction of the ancient languages like Indo European

http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/response.cgi?root=config&morpho=0&basename=\data\semham\afaset&first=1


Why we have Afri Asaitic was because the similarities that hausa sound to Arabic.

I can show you how numbers are numbered in languages

Number 7 in cushitic languages
Todobo in af somali
Tobeeso in afaan oromo
Malciini in Afar
Lamala in Sidamo

It cogantes between languages the bedauye or beja languages I couldnt find.

The colest languages to Af Somali is afaan oromo.

To Ethio-Semitic languages

Its starts of with OSA, moved south and Geez becomes the first Ethio-Semitic language.

Amharic is south Ethiopic meaning it has more central cushitic influence than tigre. Even looking at the Geography amharic is less pure than Tigre.

The South-Ethiopic languages have a great number of prepalatals
not encountered elswhere in Semitic: ch, gh, sh, zh, C', enyne, y.11


Unlike north ethiopic it is closer to OSA because these types of cosanants don't exist.

In Amharic

Slm means "to greet" but add the speical cosanants šlm means "to decorate".

In Arabic "to greet" means salam or peace, in ethio-semetic languages in amharic when an amharic man says Salamno it means literal means peace to you.

Most AA languages like cushitic or semitic they share consanants

In beja, saho, somali, oromo, afar

Share the ع sound, the word cayn came from canaanite for the word eye.

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We are kinda cucked by semitics.

But the somali caa is more harsh.

Also خ in differs into dialects in Af somali, koonfureed somalis say Qaasaro, instead of khaarso.



I would say.
 
Omotic was the first language to isolate from Afro Asaitic. That why it does not resemble much like its relatives Cushitic, Semeitic, coptic and berber.

I have site that does reconstruction of the ancient languages like Indo European

http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/response.cgi?root=config&morpho=0&basename=\data\semham\afaset&first=1


Why we have Afri Asaitic was because the similarities that hausa sound to Arabic.

I can show you how numbers are numbered in languages

Number 7 in cushitic languages
Todobo in af somali
Tobeeso in afaan oromo
Malciini in Afar
Lamala in Sidamo

It cogantes between languages the bedauye or beja languages I couldnt find.

The colest languages to Af Somali is afaan oromo.

To Ethio-Semitic languages

Its starts of with OSA, moved south and Geez becomes the first Ethio-Semitic language.

Amharic is south Ethiopic meaning it has more central cushitic influence than tigre. Even looking at the Geography amharic is less pure than Tigre.

The South-Ethiopic languages have a great number of prepalatals
not encountered elswhere in Semitic: ch, gh, sh, zh, C', enyne, y.11


Unlike north ethiopic it is closer to OSA because these types of cosanants don't exist.

In Amharic

Slm means "to greet" but add the speical cosanants šlm means "to decorate".

In Arabic "to greet" means salam or peace, in ethio-semetic languages in amharic when an amharic man says Salamno it means literal means peace to you.

Most AA languages like cushitic or semitic they share consanants

In beja, saho, somali, oromo, afar

Share the ع sound, the word cayn came from canaanite for the word eye.

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We are kinda cucked by semitics.

But the somali caa is more harsh.

Also خ in differs into dialects in Af somali, koonfureed somalis say Qaasaro, instead of khaarso.



I would say.
Somali cayn and Arabic cayn are the exact same
 
The South-Ethiopic languages have a great number of prepalatals
not encountered elswhere in Semitic: ch, gh, sh, zh
Isnt "sh" in all semitic languages though?

The weird thing about south semitic is that for the later languages, the consanants ሠ (sh), ኀ (kh), and ፀ (dh) for basic root words were merged with other letters ሰ (s), ሐ (x) and ጸ (ts). With the exception of ፀ, those old sounds were reused for different words as ሸ (sh) and ኸ (kh).

So basically for instance the word for five khamstu would be pronounced xamstu. Even in Tigrinya and Tigre the old letters are not used in writing so there is no dh sound at all. Thus I dont think many people would recognize and speak Ge'ez as it was originally pronounced.

Also, it would be easy to say that Ge'ez came from OSA but no one knows for sure how long Semitic was spoken in Eritrea or who developed this script first since there is a lot of evidence that still hasn't been dug up yet.
 
Isnt "sh" in all semitic languages though?

The weird thing about south semitic is that for the later languages, the consanants ሠ (sh), ኀ (kh), and ፀ (dh) for basic root words were merged with other letters ሰ (s), ሐ (x) and ጸ (ts). With the exception of ፀ, those old sounds were reused for different words as ሸ (sh) and ኸ (kh).

So basically for instance the word for five khamstu would be pronounced xamstu. Even in Tigrinya and Tigre the old letters are not used in writing so there is no dh sound at all. Thus I dont think many people would recognize and speak Ge'ez as it was originally pronounced.

Also, it would be easy to say that Ge'ez came from OSA but no one knows for sure how long Semitic was spoken in Eritrea or who developed this script first since there is a lot of evidence that still hasn't been dug up yet.
Sh is in all semeitc languages

That is ش

I was saying the Amharic got more cushitic influence than its other ethio-semeitic languages.

Geez even by listening to the Ethiopian orthodox church sounds very different to the Ethio-semitic languages.

Some say semeitic came into Ethiopia 3500 years ago.
 
Isnt "sh" in all semitic languages though?

The weird thing about south semitic is that for the later languages, the consanants ሠ (sh), ኀ (kh), and ፀ (dh) for basic root words were merged with other letters ሰ (s), ሐ (x) and ጸ (ts). With the exception of ፀ, those old sounds were reused for different words as ሸ (sh) and ኸ (kh).

So basically for instance the word for five khamstu would be pronounced xamstu. Even in Tigrinya and Tigre the old letters are not used in writing so there is no dh sound at all. Thus I dont think many people would recognize and speak Ge'ez as it was originally pronounced.

Also, it would be easy to say that Ge'ez came from OSA but no one knows for sure how long Semitic was spoken in Eritrea or who developed this script first since there is a lot of evidence that still hasn't been dug up yet.

And how do you know so much about af injirle?
 
Afro Asiatic is a false category. Us Somalis should've been Nilotic. We have far more in common with the Masai than Arabs. Other than the loan words I'm sure Somali is closer to Nilotic language.
 
Afro Asiatic is a false category. Us Somalis should've been Nilotic. We have far more in common with the Masai than Arabs. Other than the loan words I'm sure Somali is closer to Nilotic language.

Stfu, imbecile. You clearly have no idea wtf you're talking or you're just looking for attention.
 
@Prince Abubu

Shut up . I'm just not brainwashed by kkkracker linguistics and genetics. Afro Asiatic also includes the disgusting Habeshas. It is impossible that we are related to those people linguistically. They talk like ants. Cushitic is a branch of Nilotic.
 
@Prince Abubu

Shut up . I'm just not brainwashed by kkkracker linguistics and genetics. Afro Asiatic also includes the disgusting Habeshas. It is impossible that we are related to those people linguistically. They talk like ants. Cushitic is a branch of Nilotic.

"Ooga boogaa dhooga we Wuz NiLoteZ nD ShITz"

That's you. If you have nothing intelligent to say, piss off and stop shitting all over the thread. I doubt you're even Somali.
 
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