Why does Islam ban nationalism?

[Cognitivedissonance]

Nope neither did my muslim ancestors.

I asked you if you believed in the caliphate my son & here's your response my son.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

If you & your ancestors didn't believe in the caliphate then they're gaalo my son, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but somaliida maxa ku maahmaahan ruunta ceeb Ma laha.

 

[Geeljire]

I asked you if you believed in the caliphate my son & here's your response my son.

And i explained i dont believe it will be happening in the forseable future, if it did i have no issue with.

Next question do you believe in ISIS?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

And i explained i dont believe it will be happening in the forseable future, if it did i have no issue with.

Next question do you believe in ISIS?

I asked you if you believed in it & you said no, what is there to explain my dear child?

 

[Geeljire]

If you & your ancestors didn't believe in the caliphate then they're gaalo my son, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but somaliida maxa ku maahmaahan ruunta ceeb Ma laha.

SYL and the dervishes who fought colonialism under the banner of Islam are Gaalo? Whose fault was it in the first place that the caliphate fell , if i remember correctly it is the same nutjob Salafs you subscribe to.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I think you spent too long attached to the electronic device my dear child perhaps you should go & lay down & get some well deserved rest.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

SYL and the dervishes who fought colonialism under the banner of Islam are Gaalo? Whose fault was it in the first place that the caliphate fell , if i remember correctly it is the same nutjob Salafs you subscribe to.

Salafi's are a creation of the west (Lawrence of Arabia)

I am simply a Muslim.

 

[Geeljire]

This is what @Cognitivedissonance believes in.

This guy is freaking nutts.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

This is what @Cognitivedissonance believes in.

This guy is nuttss.

These are a creation of Israel, ISIS=Israeli secret intelligence service.

What's the point of me typing if you ain't going to read it my dear child.

 

[Geeljire]

LOOOOOOOOL!!!! Isreal the classic scapegoat Those are your doppelgangers.. They spout the exact mumbo jumbo you do word for word.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

LOOOOOOOOL!!!! Isreal the classic scapegoat Those are your doppelgangers.. They spout the exact mumbo jumbo you do word for word.

You ar

You & your ancestors are gaalo bradar if they didn't believe in the caliphate

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

ISIS, Al Shabaab, Al Qaida are all the dogs of hell boowe.

 

[Geeljire]

You & your ancestors are gaalo bradar if they didn't believe in the caliphate

 

[Canuck]

If you don't believe in the caliphate, the divine law of Allah being implemented in one United Muslim ummaha encompassing all Muslims from every race then I hate to break it to you my son, you're as gaal as Bill O'Reilly

it was never that rosy pic of caliphate. the caliphate was full of rebellion movements and hate inside each islamic kingdom from central Asia to Arab world for example Abbassid caliphs.
The Abbasid Caliphate differed from others in that it did not have the same borders and extent as Islam. Particularly, in the west of the Caliphate, there were multiple smaller caliphates that existed in relative peace with them.[1] This list represents the succession of Islamic dynasties that emerged from the fractured Abbasid empire by their general geographic location. Dynasties often overlap, where a vassal emir revolted from and later conquered his lord. Gaps appear during periods of contest where the dominating power was unclear. Except for the Fatimid Caliphate in Egypt, recognizing a Shi'ite succession through Ali, and the Andalusian Caliphates of the Umayyads and Almohads, every Muslim dynasty at least acknowledged the nominal suzerainty of the Abbasids as Caliph and Commander of the Faithful.

• Northwest Africa: Idrisids (788–974) → Almoravids (1040–1147) → Almohads (1120–1269)
• Ifriqiya (modern Tunisia, eastern Algeria & Western Libya): Aghlabids (800–909 CE) → Fatimids of Egypt (909–973 CE) → Zirids (973–1148) → Almohads (1148-1229) → Hafsids (1229–1574)
• Egypt and Palestine: Tulunids (868–905 CE) → Ikhshidids (935-969) → Fatimid Caliphate (909–1171) → Ayyubid dynasty (1171–1341) → Mamluks (1250–1517)
• Al-Jazira (modern Syria & Northern Iraq): Hamdanids (890–1004 CE) → Marwanids (990–1085) and Uqaylids (990–1096) → Seljuks (1034-1194) → Mongol Empire and the Ilkhanate (1231–1335)
• Southwest Iran: Buyids (934-1055) → Seljuks (1034–1194) → Mongol Empire
• Khorasan (modern Iran, Afghanistan and Turkmenistan): Tahirids (821 -873) → Saffarids (873-903) → Samanids (903-995) → Ghaznavids (995-1038) → Seljuks (1038–1194) → Ghurids (1011-1215) → Khwarazmians (1077–1231) → Mongol Empire & theIlkhanate (1231–1335)
• Transoxiana (modern Central Asia): Samanids (819-999) → Karakhanids (840-1212) → Khwarazmians (1077–1231) → Mongol Empire and the Chagatai Khanate (1225–1687)

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

 

[Geeljire]

I am glad everyone gets to see in this thread how much of a radical takfiri you are calling your own ancestors gaal and you are even worse of a qabilst who insults & wishes death to other peoples clan to boot.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

it was never that rosy pic of caliphate. the caliphate was full of rebellion movements and hate inside each islamic kingdom from central Asia to Arab world for example Abbassid caliphs.
The Abbasid Caliphate differed from others in that it did not have the same borders and extent as Islam. Particularly, in the west of the Caliphate, there were multiple smaller caliphates that existed in relative peace with them.[1] This list represents the succession of Islamic dynasties that emerged from the fractured Abbasid empire by their general geographic location. Dynasties often overlap, where a vassal emir revolted from and later conquered his lord. Gaps appear during periods of contest where the dominating power was unclear. Except for the Fatimid Caliphate in Egypt, recognizing a Shi'ite succession through Ali, and the Andalusian Caliphates of the Umayyads and Almohads, every Muslim dynasty at least acknowledged the nominal suzerainty of the Abbasids as Caliph and Commander of the Faithful.

• Northwest Africa: Idrisids (788–974) → Almoravids (1040–1147) → Almohads (1120–1269)
• Ifriqiya (modern Tunisia, eastern Algeria & Western Libya): Aghlabids (800–909 CE) → Fatimids of Egypt (909–973 CE) → Zirids (973–1148) → Almohads (1148-1229) → Hafsids (1229–1574)
• Egypt and Palestine: Tulunids (868–905 CE) → Ikhshidids (935-969) → Fatimid Caliphate (909–1171) → Ayyubid dynasty (1171–1341) → Mamluks (1250–1517)
• Al-Jazira (modern Syria & Northern Iraq): Hamdanids (890–1004 CE) → Marwanids (990–1085) and Uqaylids (990–1096) → Seljuks (1034-1194) → Mongol Empire and the Ilkhanate (1231–1335)
• Southwest Iran: Buyids (934-1055) → Seljuks (1034–1194) → Mongol Empire
• Khorasan (modern Iran, Afghanistan and Turkmenistan): Tahirids (821 -873) → Saffarids (873-903) → Samanids (903-995) → Ghaznavids (995-1038) → Seljuks (1038–1194) → Ghurids (1011-1215) → Khwarazmians (1077–1231) → Mongol Empire & theIlkhanate (1231–1335)
• Transoxiana (modern Central Asia): Samanids (819-999) → Karakhanids (840-1212) → Khwarazmians (1077–1231) → Mongol Empire and the Chagatai Khanate (1225–1687)

Islam is perfect Muslims ain't.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I am glad everyone gets to see in this thread how much of a radical takfiri you are calling your own ancestors gaal and you are even worse of a qabilst who insults & wishes death to other peoples clan to boot.

Do you really think I care what other people think? The truth is the truth even if the majority disagree.

 

[paragon]

Well according to Salafis getting your house in order is haraam, uniting your own people by a common cultural, racial, historical & political reality is haraam.

Despite nothing in the Quran or hadith indicating it.

Then Somali people will be forever divided,stagnant & obsolete. Because no nation in history survived without nationalism. Where a Nation exist there is Nationalism

Salafis are the type of people you want to ban from your country. They call all who disagree with them kafiirs, even when they are believers. And if they are aggressive and impulsive they won't hesitate to take innocent lives.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Salafis are the type of people you want to ban from your country. They call all who disagree with them kafiirs, even when they are believers. And if they are aggressive and impulsive they won't hesitate to take innocent lives.

Can one eat beef & still be considered a vegetarian?