@MadNomad You are a classic charlatan you just babble about things you have little understanding, you ask questions which if you seriously considered them in your own model, you would run away, but the reason you don't is because 1) You don't really know much about your own model and assume whatever your told. 2) You don't even know how it actually works, which I believe is the case here, and if this had been an audio discussion I would have exposed you for the stuttering clueless charlatan that you are. Look you mocked atmospheric lensing, then I grabbed it and beat you over the head with it how it's used to explain the super moon in the spinning ball earth model of yours, instead of cowering in humiliation you come back for more beatings, your not sadistic are you? An experiment is an experiment, the same way they grab a few marbles on a trampoline and showcase how the hoax that is gravity supposedly works by attracting the smaller objects to the larger one, I can use exactly your line of quackademic argument, what! Marble?? Trampoline ??? come on? how is this real world gravity??? is that how fucking gravity works that it needs a fucking sheet or trampoline or any other shitty elastic base? Even tough the atmospheric lensing experiment in fact is far more accurate to the bull crap above just as he demonstrates it with the pen in the water and the refraction bending the light and magnifying the object, he is using the exact same concept, you have shown nothing more then utter hypocrisy and even worse total ignorance, I mean look at how many times I use your own comments to beat you with it? @Burhan Just as I typed to @dhegdheer whom because she is very limited in her critical thinking I gave her an easy pass, she couldn't even tell me the shape of a disk. But let me answer your question, why do you think it's spherical? how many sides are their to a spherical object? what happens if I place a spherical object on my table and circulate around it? how many sides of the object will I see at every angle ? now relate this same question to the moon, why when the moon is full do I only see two sides of it ? one side in the southern hemisphere and the other in the northern hemisphere (upside down due to observers perspective) These are very simple question which that doqon I quoted above me explained with an image in the most comical way possible (secretly hoping he posts it again) while in his heliocentric model the argument for WHY! completely differed from his charlatan quickademic crap. Also to top it off, the earth went from a circle, to a spherical, to a spheroid to an oblate spheroid, these are all different shapes, so why do you insist the moon is a spherical ? and not a spheroid? or an oblate spheroid flattened at the pole just as NASA tells us the shape of the earth? is the shape of the moon different from the earth perhaps? all this despite NASA CGI showing us different objects and the moon landing supposedly showing us a circle shaped planet, which is correct?