Ruto straight up denies leaving Somalia post drawdown.

[Step a side]

I’ll take the ‘humiliation’ over your ‘suggestion’. Somalia is improving a decent rate each year. Mogadishu is actually a thriving and growing city, Kabul not so much.


You are misinformed, Afghanistan is suffering from suicide bombing to this day. They have ISIS trying to cause mayhem.

Like all terrorist groups, there’ll be a more harsher one.

If you believe Mogadishu is thriving then good luck. The west doesn’t spend trillions trying to get rid of “terrorist groups”. They “ fund” them to continue destabilising the country like Somalia.

I’m not here to defend Taliban but if you want our country to be free from shackles then we have to stop begging!

 

[bidenkulaha]

If you believe Mogadishu is thriving then good luck. The west doesn’t spend trillions trying to get rid of “terrorist groups”. They “ fund” them to continue destabilising the country like Somalia.

I’m not here to defend Taliban but if you want our country to be free from shackles then we have to stop begging!

Conspiracy theories won’t get us anywhere. All international finance should be welcomed in Somalia

 

[Step a side]

Conspiracy theories won’t get us anywhere. All international finance should be welcomed in Somalia

“Conspiracy Theory” is so 2000s .
If you believe Al shabaab and Isis came by themselves then you are not fit for survival in this harsh world we are living in today.

International finances will never come to you. Your a failed state that bombs itself to oblivion

 

[Step a side]

“International finances” kulaha . “International bomb” is the only thing coming your way @bidenkulaha

 

[FBIsomalia]

It was actually 18k that was crazy even the MFA was in shock, the London police is even more than that.

for Somalia to control its territory it needs to have 500k combined armed forces from military, navy, Air Force, intelligence, police, custodial corps. Afwerki even said Somalia needs at least 160k ground forces.

160k south Somalia Without puntland and Somaliland!! .

 

[Rationale]

IMO Somalia should use the Israel-SK model where when you turn 18 you a branch of the armed forces for a time and turn into a reserve soldier. This way we have a smaller standing army but all men of age in the next generation will be reserve forces incase of an invasion.

This is what exactly led to Somalia's 30 year long civil war, we don't need more geelraacyaal who know how to use AK47. Only way out of this shitshow is a bottom up state building, as long as we don't have a population who are willing to align their group's interest with the other groups of the nation, we will never be a country.

 

[Prince of HS]

160k south Somalia Without puntland and Somaliland!! .

70% of Somalia’s population is below Galkacyo. I personally think it’s more like 80%. 160k is very possible for Southern Somalia (Soilders hailing from GM, HS, Banadir, KGS, JL)

 

[Rationale]

If you believe Mogadishu is thriving then good luck. The west doesn’t spend trillions trying to get rid of “terrorist groups”. They “ fund” them to continue destabilising the country like Somalia.

I’m not here to defend Taliban but if you want our country to be free from shackles then we have to stop begging!

If we don't keep these guys close, others will and they will use them against us. When we last time said f*ck you to the international community and our neighbouring countries, we got carpet bombed in Xamar. The dabodhilif used the international community and Ethiopia against us, never again. We will keep them very close and we will give them what ever they need, if they in return benefit our people, taasi waa noo balan.

 

[bidenkulaha]

“Conspiracy Theory” is so 2000s .
If you believe Al shabaab and Isis came by themselves then you are not fit for survival in this harsh world we are living in today.

International finances will never come to you. Your a failed state that bombs itself to oblivion

Al Shabaab and ISIS came from state collapse. Nothing interesting or new.

 

[Abaq]

When will you guys accept the reality I keep banging on about, this is a Madhalays artificial country. The sooner you guys accept this and we sign the divorce papers, the better. Some states will thrive, some will fail and get swallowed up and eventually one will win.

All nations go through a period of disentagration and fragmentation before eventual unification. The Chinese went through the Warring States period, the Japanese had the Sengoku period etc. Our Warring States period was artifically ended by the West and foreign intervention and we see the Frankenstein we have today. We need to let the laws of nature take their course and accept and embrace our Warring States period.

Please sign the dotted line.

 

[Gaandheri]

160k south Somalia Without puntland and Somaliland!! .

No get rid of state forces and absorb them into sna and train them even more. Puntland can be the hq of 54th division, also psf can join danab and pmpf can join the navy. Same thing for somaliland hq of 26th division and another division in charge of sool, sanaag, togdheer.

 

[FBIsomalia]

No get rid of state forces and absorb them into sna and train them even more. Puntland can be the hq of 54th division, also psf can join danab and pmpf can join the navy. Same thing for somaliland hq of 26th division and another division in charge of sool, sanaag, togdheer.

Both Puntland iyo Somaliland sucess in secure their lands. South Somalia should learn from them.

 

[reer]

HSM trained 20k soilders in one year. ATMIS is leaving the country fully by 2024 which he is working with. Do you expect HSM to just kick them out right now? That is just stupid and irrational.

atmis are leaving kulahaa. when we see they have left and are not present then yeah. otherwise we are still a amisom colony. happy ugaali and/or injera day mr prince of hs (depending on which coloniser rules you).

 

[Step a side]

Guys all of you have good intentions for the country. May Allah make it easy. We will get there eventually.

 

[Pastoralist]

HSM working overtime to make this a reality

 

[Libaax-Joore]

That’s the condition of most nations that just came out of war. They had non stop wars since the days of USSR. Give them few more years and see how much better they will be compared to Somalia. Somalia lives on hand outs. They are being disrespected eveeywhere. The EU, USA and AU don’t want us. We need to lear how to be independent.

Afghanistan was better under usa occupation than Taliban rule the international community spend billions and billions nothing change a caveman will always be a caveman they had modern armed force with the latest modern weapon Air Force and army, afghan armed forces was chased by a caveman with sandals

 

[bidenkulaha]

Let’s give HSM a chance. It’s been only one year now. Who knows maybe he will pull it off sending these guys back to Uganda and Burundi inshaAllah

2,000 leaving by this month, 3,000 by September, 5,000 April 2024, rest by December 2024.

The frontline states troops are a 90-day mission to capture remaining areas in the South.

20,000 SNA have been trained this year, 10,000 next year to take over from ATMIS and set up in newly liberated areas



Anyone who has a problem with that, had a problem with Somalia’s future

 

[Prince of HS]

2,000 leaving by this month, 3,000 by September, 5,000 April 2024, rest by December 2024.

The frontline states troops are a 90-day mission to capture remaining areas in the South.

20,000 SNA have been trained this year, 10,000 next year to take over from ATMIS and set up in newly liberated areas



Anyone who has a problem with that, had a problem with Somalia’s future

do you have any idea when the 90 day mission is set to be or even phase 2?

 

[bidenkulaha]

do you have any idea when the 90 day mission is set to be or even phase 2?

No. I don’t think they’re ready tbh. I’m surprised because they briefed that it would begin this month.

 

[bidenkulaha]

@Prince of HS i think Gedo is a problem. I listened to Madoobe and he said Ethiopia can’t start operations from Gedo if Gedo isn’t under his control