Exactly what i mean. No one should spend money to travel a city far away to get a visa.
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Ibrahim hassan
Esteemed Excellency
Yeah and it's called centralization
It seems you dont understand between Centralization and Decentralization.
We have Turkey company working in Garcaad port. Before that they fixed Garowe local bridge.
Puntland's Bank has stopped accepting Shillings. The shillings was already on death spiral and this latest move is the last nail on the coffin.
By not accepting the shillings, what this decision by the Bank tells us is that the currency issue is very bad. Garowe administration is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Few indicators of an imminent collapse of the administration.
1. The administration stops funds on non-essential services, the most visible of this the Puntland TV which bleeds about 25,000 dollars from the state coffers every month. The bulk of this sum goeds the Satellite Uplink provider.
2. Delays in paying salary - the most visible of this will be the clan melitia - they may start mutiny or occupying gov't buildings.
3. More demonstrations.
By not accepting the shillings, what this decision by the Bank tells us is that the currency issue is very bad. Garowe administration is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Few indicators of an imminent collapse of the administration.
1. The administration stops funds on non-essential services, the most visible of this the Puntland TV which bleeds about 25,000 dollars from the state coffers every month. The bulk of this sum goeds the Satellite Uplink provider.
2. Delays in paying salary - the most visible of this will be the clan melitia - they may start mutiny or occupying gov't buildings.
3. More demonstrations.
A very sensitive subject for our desert dwelling friends is that of population. In this thread we will take a look at all population surveys in the region's history, all of which point to a single fact; namely Puntland region (formerly known as Migiurtinia) and its severe lack of population.
This thread discusses a political entity formerly known as Migiurtinia, strictly no clan talk please.
Map of the region showing Migiurtinia:
- 1931 colonial census
Out of a total population of 1,021,572 of Somalia Italiana, Migiurtinia (known today as Puntland region) accounted for around 4% of the population:
- 1953 colonial survey
In 1953, Migiurtinia was again the least populated constituency in all of Somalia. Puntland region had the honour of having both the smallest district in Somalia (Qandala) as well as the second smallest district in Somalia (Caluula). Some parts of Migiurtinia like Qardho had wild statistics including 0.63 people per squared km, Migiurtinia as a whole had a density of 0.9, to put that in perspective, the Western Sahara has 2.25 people/km2:
- 1963 population estimate
Again, Puntland region is reported to be the least populated constituency in the country. Hiran had double the population of Migiurtinia, the old Burco region had 3x the population of Migiurtinia:
- Major 1975 Somali Republic census:
Puntland region, previously known as Migiurtinia, remains bottom of population tables at 4.8%:
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The heart of Puntland region's troubles lie in the very small population base. Without a large population base, it is difficult to generate meaningful revenue for the administration. In turn, this forced the struggling administration to resort to printing counterfeit currency to balance the books... and before you know it, we have a rogue administration ranking top 5 in the world in terms of inflation.
This lack of a viable population base is also why no foreign direct investment is coming to Puntland region. Investors need the assurances of a large local economy, something Puntland region can not provide.
Unless Puntland region discovers and begins to exploit natural resources (last time they dug for oil they discovered a water well, useful in desert climates.. but of no commercial value), printing fake money and presenting inflated fake figures to NGOs to get more aid is the only viable mode of survival.
This thread discusses a political entity formerly known as Migiurtinia, strictly no clan talk please.
Map of the region showing Migiurtinia:
- 1931 colonial census
Out of a total population of 1,021,572 of Somalia Italiana, Migiurtinia (known today as Puntland region) accounted for around 4% of the population:
- 1953 colonial survey
In 1953, Migiurtinia was again the least populated constituency in all of Somalia. Puntland region had the honour of having both the smallest district in Somalia (Qandala) as well as the second smallest district in Somalia (Caluula). Some parts of Migiurtinia like Qardho had wild statistics including 0.63 people per squared km, Migiurtinia as a whole had a density of 0.9, to put that in perspective, the Western Sahara has 2.25 people/km2:
- 1963 population estimate
Again, Puntland region is reported to be the least populated constituency in the country. Hiran had double the population of Migiurtinia, the old Burco region had 3x the population of Migiurtinia:
- Major 1975 Somali Republic census:
Puntland region, previously known as Migiurtinia, remains bottom of population tables at 4.8%:
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The heart of Puntland region's troubles lie in the very small population base. Without a large population base, it is difficult to generate meaningful revenue for the administration. In turn, this forced the struggling administration to resort to printing counterfeit currency to balance the books... and before you know it, we have a rogue administration ranking top 5 in the world in terms of inflation.
This lack of a viable population base is also why no foreign direct investment is coming to Puntland region. Investors need the assurances of a large local economy, something Puntland region can not provide.
Unless Puntland region discovers and begins to exploit natural resources (last time they dug for oil they discovered a water well, useful in desert climates.. but of no commercial value), printing fake money and presenting inflated fake figures to NGOs to get more aid is the only viable mode of survival.
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Having a low population is a good thing. That's why Puntland has half the poverty rate than Somaliland.
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PUNTLAND BUSINESSES REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE SOMALI SHILLING FOR TRANSACTIONS
Garowe (PP News Desk) — Businesses in major cities of Puntland have refused to accept the Somali shilling for transactions despite instructions issued by Puntland State Government several weeks ago. Grocers, tuktuk (bajaaj) operators, retailers, wholesalers, fuel sellers and the hospitality sector continue to ask potential customers if they are going to pay in US dollars.
The policy instituted by Puntland Government last month had set US$ 10 as the minimum amount of money that can be used for mobile money transactions. Sahal and E-dahab, two major electronic money platforms in Puntland, have not complied with new guidelines.
Poor people and labourers feel the brunt of the dollarisation trend in Puntland, where the shilling is still a legal tender but worthless in the eyes of the business community.
“Small businesses have a right to refuse to accept the Somali shilling if they know they cannot restock their retail outlets due to wholesalers accepting only US dollars for transactions” says a business economist in Bosaso.
In December 2020 Puntland President Said Abdullahi Deni said that there were several machines used to print money illegally in Puntland. Money printed by the administration President Deni had succeeded fuels the depreciation of the Somali shilling against the dollar.
Money changers buy the dollar but do not sell the dollars in exchange for the Somali shilling. Puntland Government promised that the government banks will open bureaus de change to enable citizens to buy dollars but this policy has not come into effect.
Only employees paid in US dollars, who constitute less that 4 % of the Puntland population, feel not strained by non-acceptance of the Somali shilling for transactions. Puntland deligitimised the original Somali shilling to flood the market with Somali shilling of its own without considering the impact of unfettered money supply on the local economy. The result has been the sudden depreciation of the Puntland shilling against the dollar and gradual loss of its legal tender status in Puntland. Puntland Government senior officials approached by Puntland Post were not available to comment on this story.
© Puntland Post, 2021
puntlandpost.net
Garowe (PP News Desk) — Businesses in major cities of Puntland have refused to accept the Somali shilling for transactions despite instructions issued by Puntland State Government several weeks ago. Grocers, tuktuk (bajaaj) operators, retailers, wholesalers, fuel sellers and the hospitality sector continue to ask potential customers if they are going to pay in US dollars.
The policy instituted by Puntland Government last month had set US$ 10 as the minimum amount of money that can be used for mobile money transactions. Sahal and E-dahab, two major electronic money platforms in Puntland, have not complied with new guidelines.
Poor people and labourers feel the brunt of the dollarisation trend in Puntland, where the shilling is still a legal tender but worthless in the eyes of the business community.
“Small businesses have a right to refuse to accept the Somali shilling if they know they cannot restock their retail outlets due to wholesalers accepting only US dollars for transactions” says a business economist in Bosaso.
In December 2020 Puntland President Said Abdullahi Deni said that there were several machines used to print money illegally in Puntland. Money printed by the administration President Deni had succeeded fuels the depreciation of the Somali shilling against the dollar.
Money changers buy the dollar but do not sell the dollars in exchange for the Somali shilling. Puntland Government promised that the government banks will open bureaus de change to enable citizens to buy dollars but this policy has not come into effect.
Only employees paid in US dollars, who constitute less that 4 % of the Puntland population, feel not strained by non-acceptance of the Somali shilling for transactions. Puntland deligitimised the original Somali shilling to flood the market with Somali shilling of its own without considering the impact of unfettered money supply on the local economy. The result has been the sudden depreciation of the Puntland shilling against the dollar and gradual loss of its legal tender status in Puntland. Puntland Government senior officials approached by Puntland Post were not available to comment on this story.
© Puntland Post, 2021
Puntland Businesses Refuse to Accept the Somali Shilling for Transactions – Puntland Post
Garowe (PP News Desk) — Businesses in major cities of Puntland have refused to accept the Somali shilling for transactions… Sii akhri
puntlandpost.net
Ibrahim hassan
Esteemed Excellency
You gotta add half million people there. Alot of punt landers are diaspora
To further illustrate how Puntland region's demographic problem has been a constant throughout its history, and the ramifications of such handicap on the local economy, here is a comparison of all Puntland region's port (formerly known as Mijertainia ports) when compared to Somaliland's minor ports (this exclude the major ports of Berbera and Bulahar):
Exports of "Flag Ports" (Xiis, Maydh, Siyaara, Xarshow) compared to Migiurtinia:
Berbera and Bulahar were not included for obvious reasons, you can see below comparison of all Migiurtinia ports to Berbera and Bulahar alone:
Fast forward 117 years and Puntland region still faces the same problems: small local economy, little to no taxation base, low-level port operations.
If the clan chieftains of Migiurtinia were able to print counterfeit currency back then, you best believe they would have done so.
Exports of "Flag Ports" (Xiis, Maydh, Siyaara, Xarshow) compared to Migiurtinia:
Berbera and Bulahar were not included for obvious reasons, you can see below comparison of all Migiurtinia ports to Berbera and Bulahar alone:
Fast forward 117 years and Puntland region still faces the same problems: small local economy, little to no taxation base, low-level port operations.
If the clan chieftains of Migiurtinia were able to print counterfeit currency back then, you best believe they would have done so.
We should call this topic "Tabk's obsession with Puntland spirals out of control"
We saw the abysmal export data of Migiurtinia (modern day Puntland region) was as early as 1891, and how all of their ports were outperformed by smaller Somaliland ports of Xiis, Maydh, Siyaara and Xarshow.
Fast forward 76 years, the seventh year post independence, and Migiurtinia was still known as a constituency with "scant economic activity":
History is important.
If you want to understand why Puntland region is unproductive and with little economic activity you have to look into their past. At every point in history, whether 1800s, 1960s or 2020s, Puntland desert region has always been an economic backwater. Its the natural state of being when you have neither a population you can tax, nor natural resources to exploit.
Fast forward 76 years, the seventh year post independence, and Migiurtinia was still known as a constituency with "scant economic activity":
History is important.
If you want to understand why Puntland region is unproductive and with little economic activity you have to look into their past. At every point in history, whether 1800s, 1960s or 2020s, Puntland desert region has always been an economic backwater. Its the natural state of being when you have neither a population you can tax, nor natural resources to exploit.
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Reborn
I'd take the findings of that paper with a pinch of salt.They only interviewed around 5000 people across the country...
They should plant date palms they grow in the desert.
Firstly you forgot to include mudug & galkacyo into your sum which considerably increases the percentage as Galkacyo is home to the largest majeerteen subs
Secondly in 1975 most of our population were in the South after forming the SYL and dominating Somali politics whilst owning all the lucrative positions which explains why the numbers are so low.
Puntland today is now home to millions.
Secondly in 1975 most of our population were in the South after forming the SYL and dominating Somali politics whilst owning all the lucrative positions which explains why the numbers are so low.
Puntland today is now home to millions.
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