Plan for Somaliweyn

[The Camels of Cal madow]

if we balkanise itd be way more than 5 states lol and a somali union would just be a joke. federalism like we have now is just every state pretending they're part of one country while building up their militas. id support centralism but i doubt thats ever happening

If you ask me centralism contributed to Somalia's collapse. All development was just in mogadishu and everywhere else suffered. Hargeisa wasn't allowed to build buildings higher than 1 storey except for the oriental hotel and only 7% of aid went to the north.

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

if we balkanise itd be way more than 5 states lol and a somali union would just be a joke. federalism like we have now is just every state pretending they're part of one country while building up their militas. id support centralism but i doubt thats ever happening

You guys can be centralised but somaliland will be independent

 

[Habbad]

If you ask me centralism contributed to Somalia's collapse. All development was just in mogadishu and everywhere else suffered. Hargeisa wasn't allowed to build buildings higher than 1 storey except for the oriental hotel and only 7% of aid went to the north.

centralism can be the best form of government and the worst. centralism has the potential to allow somalia to mirror chinas fast development but with a 68iq in government somalia would essentially be a city state with some extra land to drive around

 

[Habbad]

You guys can be centralised but somaliland will be independent

i always assumed SL independence (or support for independence) was because of the south's qabilism and incompetence. if in some fantasy scenario somalia is a centralised, non-qabilist, functioning state why would you still be against unification? am I missing something

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

i always assumed SL independence (or support for independence) was because of the south's qabilism and incompetence. if in some fantasy scenario somalia is a centralised, non-qabilist, functioning state why would you still be against unification? am I missing something

I personally won't be against a non corrupt federation where we are equal stakeholders in the union, but some people have trauma from 1988 and sees the south as imperialist who deny their struggles so they view it negatively.

 

[Habbad]

I personally won't be against a non corrupt federation where we are equal stakeholders in the union, but some people have trauma from 1988 and sees the south as imperialist who deny their struggles so they view it negatively.

I get that. people like my mum still love siad barre and its not hard to get them to start talking about how "good he was for the country" and how much they miss him

 

[OffTheDome]

Only Langaabs want a weyne

 

[libaac]

Only Langaabs want a weyne

 

[Habbad]

Only Langaabs want a weyne

nigga everybody wants to be part of a fat country. niggas like you remind me of them regionalists during the chinese civil war that didnt wanna unite china

 

[OffTheDome]

nigga everybody wants to be part of a fat country. niggas like you remind me of them regionalists during the chinese civil war that didnt wanna unite china

weyne was created by a man named Ernest Bevin

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

I get that. people like my mum still love siad barre and its not hard to get them to start talking about how "good he was for the country" and how much they miss him

That's the problem as people think because of the chaos, Siad barre was justified in killing somalis to stay in power.

 

[Habbad]

weyne was created by a man named Ernest Bevin

you got a source? went through his wiki and it doesnt say shit about somalia or somaliweyne

 

[Liban Aden]

Balkanization because somalis cant work together, we goto deal with the reality and move on but have a union to protect us from threats

 

[libaac]

SL is modelled on british somaliland so niggas can gtfoh talking about ernest bevin. It doesnt even talk about somaliweyne in his wiki

 

[mr steal your naag]

Balkanization because somalis cant work together, we goto deal with the reality and move on but have a union to protect us from threats

I 100% agree. Certain somali clans want centralism again. Because their clan got all the priveleges. But now everybody has their own place. And you can build it and do what you want with it. Remember when xamar got destroyed. The entire country went bankrupt because xamar was the only place were all the money was

 

[OffTheDome]

SL is modelled on british somaliland so niggas can gtfoh talking about ernest bevin. It doesnt even talk about somaliweyne in his wiki

Somalia is also a model of Former Italia Somaliland

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

I get that. people like my mum still love siad barre and its not hard to get them to start talking about how "good he was for the country" and how much they miss him

This is the end result of siad barre's dictatorship.

 

[The Camels of Cal madow]

 

[Jiron]

We have to work with what we have now and it's federalism, once we remove the destructive 'clan' part in the system, it will work wonders for us.

 

[alien]

do people here actually think balkanization will work. Somalis won't let that happen. We gotta unite under the 18 former gobols. A proposed somali union won't work and let's be honest we wouldn't work well together and there would be more than 5 states. Other states will declare independence. It'll further cause more qabil fights. We are one people. Why split ourselves. You dont see Japan splitting itself.