I did not know that Kenya had a large population of Indians who built it into what it is today. Without these, Indian Kenya would have been a backwater country at best. Why are Africans incapable of building or even strategizing how to create a nation but want to kick out the nation-builders when it's done?
Lazy African didnt build kenya
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Uncle Tom is a compliment if you truly know who Uncle Tom was, but people's Cadaans made it a slur. What is the real story behind Uncle Tom?Josiah Henson, a dynamic man with unyielding principles, overcame incredible odds to escape from slavery with his wife and children. His life inspired the lead character of 'Uncle Tom in Harriet Beecher Stowe's 1852 classic novel, which has been recognized as one of the sparks that ignited the Civil War. Why are the Interior Africans not able to create a Nation on their own?
Italians have style sxb. We need more of that, not multicolored buildings shaped every which way.even old Mogadishu people reminisce about was a lot of Italian architecture
They very artistic also built Asmara Eritrea they still have all the buildings intact
They have good taste in general. Clothes, shoes, you name it. Very cosmopolitan people. I find Somalis in general have horrible taste. Random colored maryo, mismatched furniture, houses painted blue and green
If only craftsmen and stonemasons weren’t frowned upon in the old times.They have good taste in general. Clothes, shoes, you name it. Very cosmopolitan people. I find Somalis in general have horrible taste. Random colored maryo, mismatched furniture, houses painted blue and green
Good point, not just that but shoe makers are very frowned upon. Shoes are big business that were just completely shunned cause of random taboo.If only craftsmen and stonemasons weren’t frowned upon in the old times.
This can be said even about barbers. There are alot of ethiopian in Somalia which are taking up those crafts. I dont know why we look down on those jobs because it helps the society grow
Any job that requires working with your hands is looked down upon. Doesn't matter how lucrative it is. GDP is all about productivity and output. Is it a surprise then that Somalia's GDP is so low given that entire industries are shunned? Strange culture.
I saw an Indian complaining about Somalis on twitter
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Indians even have government positions in Kenya, governor of Mombasa is Indian same thing with lamu I think or deputy at least. Pajeets are also leaders of Suriname, Guyana, Mauritius, UK, US, Seychelles, Malaysia, and Trinidad.
The Chinese and Indian governments are sending their citizens to live in other counties particularly Africa it’s getting too crowded for 2 billion people combined.
The Chinese and Indian governments are sending their citizens to live in other counties particularly Africa it’s getting too crowded for 2 billion people combined.
The tweet got like 800 likes and someone in the quotes said something along the lines of. “Somalis are taking over you have to deal with it”
If only craftsmen and stonemasons weren’t frowned upon in the old times.
It never was frowned upon. Historically Somali craftsmen and stonemasons were concentrated in the major urban centers were they even formed formal guilds both on the coast and the interior cities. In the more rural and scarce areas they had more of a reduced role for economic reasons, where food production took priority to meet subsistence demand.
Compared to the olden times it was the introduction of capitalism in the 19th century which resulted in increased purchasing power and created a tendency in people to outsource and purchase cheap labor(slaves even) to do what they would traditional do themselves, to cut cost, cut time and increase profit. This would go in both directions i might add.
They have good taste in general. Clothes, shoes, you name it. Very cosmopolitan people. I find Somalis in general have horrible taste. Random colored maryo, mismatched furniture, houses painted blue and green
The infrastructure that the Italians built was for resource extraction from the area to Italy and to house a small Italian elite , it had no functionality outside of it. It did not benefit nor develop the country at all. Somalia infrastructure wise was lacking because of that and the Italians demolished many historic settlements and buildings.
Most of the significant infrastructural developments in Somalia took place during the Kacaan government 1969-1990. Anything from roads, medical facilities, apartment complexes, airports, deep ports, plants, electricity, factories, dams, public areas etc
And a number of vocational programs, workshops for: woodworking, construction, repair, handicraft, general mechanics, electrical, auto-mechanics and metal manufacturing facilities opened up as well:
And the horrible mismatch of buildings you see today is due to the lack of urban planning by a central government post-war collapse in the last 30 years. That's how a lot of towns/cities naturally developed elsewhere in the past before intervention.
Many of the current western countries you see today, during early/mid 1900s tore down entire towns filled with ugly crowded industrial buildings that made things polluted, created slums and bad atmosphere and made way for better planned architecture and landscaping and building of new urban centers. In what is called ''urban planning reforms'' in Europe/Australia and ''City Beautiful movement'' in North America
Some developed countries like the UK (particularly in London and Manchester) and Korea(Seoul) still suffer from the legacy of ugly housing to this day.
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British colonialists imported Indian populations that acted as a buffer between them and local Africans. Positioned them as overseers, giving them special education and passports for travels until they became the new masters.
They often played a secondary administrative roles, and held military roles and took charge of the economy on behalf of their British masters.
In short Indians prominence in Kenya/Uganda has less to do with idle/lazy Africans and more to do with their legacy as ''colonial vanguards'' as agents of the new economic order imposed by the colonial administration.
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The architecture yes was nice but what people reminisce about is the peace and stability. The cosmopolitan nature of the city, the beautiful weather and surroundings, the chill vibes, it was the spot to be if you were anyone or wanted to be someone.
Everyone was just Somali and proud of it and hopeful for the future. You didn't have the different unuka leh bs you have now.
How are they gonna kick out the indhoyasr when they are whipping grown men like bow dugsi macalins whoop kids?
Malians build many building when they were wealthy, but all that vanished and the archeologist rebuild that famous Malian mosque. If you don't have money to build mega building and project you would not have them. Italians had the money and hired the best designers, your average Somali state in 1880 could do that for the lack of money. Beside that, if you look at any big well desinged European city, you will find that it was financed with stolen money or slaves. St petersburg for example was build with slaves and serfs, without them, the Russian state would not have build such great city.If only craftsmen and stonemasons weren’t frowned upon in the old times.
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