Islam plays a big role in Somali identity that’s why some people say that do I agree with it? no but I can see where some people are coming from
I have a controversial take
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Yes I know. They’re not seen as being part of the community. But that’s isn’t the discussion.
Almis
The Gulf of Berbera
Lol you probably dont know Abu lahab is his direct uncle and he did disown him and the prophet and the sahabah did fight and kill their kaffir brothers, fathers and relatives. Abu obaidah killed his owned father in Badr and was praised by Allah in the Quran.
Funny how youre calling me the Skit-zo. First off, I'm arguably more mentally sound then you are.Warya why does your shitty, schizophrenic counter-argument imply that I'm an apostate?
You keep brining this up whenever i interact with you, are you projecting ? Yes
Lahaine
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You've explained it perfectly.They'll always be Somali because they have full Somali blood in their veins + traceable qabil. Sorry to break it to the hardliners on here who take the metaphor "If you aren't Muslim, you aren't Somali" literally. It's just meant to communicate that holding onto our Islamic values is of the utmost importance. Not that they're officially banned from claiming Somali lol
The actual question is will they be ever considered as a part of the community during our lifetime, considering how irreligious the world is becoming?
I don't think so, because Islam is a core part of our Somali identity, so there's always gonna be a wedge driven between us and them, the moment they come out as ex-Muslims. We don't have a naturally occurring group of non-Muslims like the Lebanese so the relationship is going to be antagonistic right off the bat, plus the juicy incentive apostates in our community have to smear our name for political clout and get us all killed Ayaan Hirsi style is gonna keep us paranoid and on high-alert
Maybe they'll be considered Somali by the community during the end times, since a lot of our descendants would leave Islam, as the famous hadith says holding onto the diin will become like 'holding onto hot coals' by then.
Thank you, there's a lot of mentally challenged toddlers on here who can't differentiate between these basic things.
They really are trying to manifest these murtads out of being Somali lmao
Ok they are Somali atleast ethnically. The question is should we accept them or not? Personally I think they should be shunned and excommunicated. They should just integrate into white gaalo spaces anyways anything but somali community.
EyiPunter
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What if the live in ethiopia?
I think you are correct. Non Muslim Arabs are still Arabs. There were Arab kiristan before there was Arab muslim. How can there be non Muslim Arabs but not non Muslim Somalis when the Arabs were the first to join Islam? Those standards don’t make sense in light of those facts. Let’s not put the dameer before the cart sxb.
Your first sentence contradicts everything that follows after it. If Somali gaals aren't Somali anymore, then why refer to them as Somali in the first place?
@NordicSomali
BTW I wasn't trying to insult you with that question actually.
I just meant to ask you earlier but forgot to at the time of that thread, so I took the opportunity to ask yesterday since you were there.
She gives me woke angry woman vibes
NordicSomali
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I don’t tend to read full threads if they happen to be several pages, I usually reply to original posts.
