Arab slaves think they're Arab!!!!

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YoungFarah

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Sa'azana said:
It has nothing to do with Arab supremacist ideology. It's as Khalid bin Walid put it; it's in our genealogies which are not authentic and in-line with our actual genetics where the majority of Somali males are either of Y-DNA E-V32 or Y-DNA T-M70, the former is an extreme minority marker in the Arabian Peninsula and the latter is not an extreme minority but is still pretty uncommon compared to what tends to dominate most Arabian tribes of both 'Adnani and Qahtani descent (J1 subclades) due to founder-effects. Meanwhile, J1 is a minority marker among Somalis (like 1-4% in most datasets).

We make zero sense as being paternally descended from Hashemites, especially since our own Y-DNA markers clearly look more connected to those of other Horn and Northeast African populations like Bejas, Tigrinyas, Afars and the like. Y-DNA T in the general East Africa area is even found in modern South Cushites like Iraqws and probably traces back to an early time when the Proto-Agaw-East-South Cushitic speaking community was still linguistically, ancestrally and culturally unified as one community (over 4,000 years ago). Then there's also the fact that we have Y-DNA results for actual supposed Hashemites (the royal family of Jordan) and they seem to be J1 like most other Arabians, so good-luck praying we're the result of some long-dead minority E-V32 Arabian population, lol.

Then there's our autosomal DNA profile which is quite... Damning as well:

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We basically look more "basal" to the region than most other Horners do. The ADMIXTURE cluster that forms at K=12 is dubbed "Ethio-Somali" by the authors and it swallows up all of the Non-African ancestry in Somalis at the lower-Ks but then notice how Amharas and Oromos show this cluster alongside the "Arabian" and "Eurasian" (basically "Caucasus") clusters, imparting that they possess later layers of Non-African ancestry on-top of what's in Ethio-Somali which, in particular, signifies a deeper layer of shared genetic drift between them and Somalis, going back to a time when their ancestors' gene pools were one. This is damning because our ancestors are highly unlikely to have meaningfully shared a gene pool with theirs in over 2,500-3,000 years or so = we clearly show no recent signs of Arabian admixture, like in the last 2,000 years in terms of autosomal DNA (what we can use to gauge someone's overall ancestry and not just a lineage passed down no matter between father and son like with Y-DNA).

Anyway, these claims, clearly being nonsensical and not in line with our actual genealogical origins, are probably just owed to Islam. Our ancestors probably wanted to add some prestige to the origins of their clans by claiming to be descended from Hashemites or whatever and it probably held foster a somewhat stronger connection to the religion.
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She's just trolling and trying to derail she brings religion up in every thread just ignore her. You'll get used to her trolling eventually
 
Amira

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Somali parents need to teach their children to love and be proud of their Somali culture and heritage at a young age. My Somali friend's 12 year old sister is obsessed with all things Arab. She wears the middle eastern abaya, watches only Arab videos/vloggers, she only listens to Arabic music and refuses to listen to Somali music, she begs her home everyday if they could move to the Khaleej, watches Arab shows etc. He's very worried about it, but he's hoping its just a phase since she's only 12 years old. The problem is her mother didn't show her Somali culture. They travel to Dubai and Qatar every year, so that's the only culture she knows.
 
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Amira said:
Somali parents need to teach their children to love and be proud of their Somali culture and heritage at a young age. My Somali friend's 12 year old sister is obsessed with all things Arab. She wears the middle eastern abaya, watches only Arab videos/vloggers, she only listens to Arabic music and refuses to listen to Somali music, she begs her home everyday if they could move to the Khaleej, watches Arab shows etc. He's very worried about it, but he's hoping its just a phase since she's only 12 years old. The problem is her mother didn't show her Somali culture. They travel to Dubai and Qatar every year, so that's the only culture she knows.
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:qri8gs7::qri8gs7::qri8gs7:This is coming from a non Somali you Somalis should be embarrased
 
SOMALI GENERAL

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Sa'azana said:
It has nothing to do with Arab supremacist ideology. It's as Khalid bin Walid put it; it's in our genealogies which are not authentic and in-line with our actual genetics where the majority of Somali males are either of Y-DNA E-V32 or Y-DNA T-M70, the former is an extreme minority marker in the Arabian Peninsula and the latter is not an extreme minority but is still pretty uncommon compared to what tends to dominate most Arabian tribes of both 'Adnani and Qahtani descent (J1 subclades) due to founder-effects. Meanwhile, J1 is a minority marker among Somalis (like 1-4% in most datasets).

We make zero sense as being paternally descended from Hashemites, especially since our own Y-DNA markers clearly look more connected to those of other Horn and Northeast African populations like Bejas, Tigrinyas, Afars and the like. Y-DNA T in the general East Africa area is even found in modern South Cushites like Iraqws and probably traces back to an early time when the Proto-Agaw-East-South Cushitic speaking community was still linguistically, ancestrally and culturally unified as one community (over 4,000 years ago). Then there's also the fact that we have Y-DNA results for actual supposed Hashemites (the royal family of Jordan) and they seem to be J1 like most other Arabians, so good-luck praying we're the result of some long-dead minority E-V32 Arabian population, lol.

Then there's our autosomal DNA profile which is quite... Damning as well:

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We basically look more "basal" to the region than most other Horners do. The ADMIXTURE cluster that forms at K=12 is dubbed "Ethio-Somali" by the authors and it swallows up all of the Non-African ancestry in Somalis at the lower-Ks but then notice how Amharas and Oromos show this cluster alongside the "Arabian" and "Eurasian" (basically "Caucasus") clusters, imparting that they possess later layers of Non-African ancestry on-top of what's in Ethio-Somali which, in particular, signifies a deeper layer of shared genetic drift between them and Somalis, going back to a time when their ancestors' gene pools were one. This is damning because our ancestors are highly unlikely to have meaningfully shared a gene pool with theirs in over 2,500-3,000 years or so = we clearly show no recent signs of Arabian admixture, like in the last 2,000 years in terms of autosomal DNA (what we can use to gauge someone's overall ancestry and not just a lineage passed down no matter between father and son like with Y-DNA).

Anyway, these claims, clearly being nonsensical and not in line with our actual genealogical origins, are probably just owed to Islam. Our ancestors probably wanted to add some prestige to the origins of their clans by claiming to be descended from Hashemites or whatever and it probably held foster a somewhat stronger connection to the religion.
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Imagine a united Cushitic(Somali, Ethiopia, Eritrea & Beja) super state rivaling the Bantu EAF.
:mjhaps:

The likelihood of that happening is nearly zilch though.
 
embarassing

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Kia12 said:
People who hate Arabs:

1 Probably never traveled to an Arab country
2 They don't know any Arabs
3 Cannot speak the language

So they become obsessed with Arabs and generalize all Arab people even though they haven't probably met any Arabs before.
It's important to point out that there are good and bad people in every race.
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Stating a fact, which is Somalis are not Arab and share nothing with them but religion doesn't mean one hates arabs its just the truth.

but those who genuinely hate arabs or any group of people wholesale are retarded or extremely insecure.
 
Nightline Kid

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Amira said:
They don't. You only see this online. Talk to the Somali people you know, or go to a Somali neighbourhood and take a poll...90% will say they're Black. Don't think these online Arab-begging weirdos represent Somali people. Most Somali people identify as Black. Sometimes they identify as just Somali, but that's very rare.
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Not really. Most Somalis identify as simply Somali, or African. From what I've seen a considerable amount of Somalis are somewhat apprehensive to calling themselves black since it's mostly tied to being African-American, which we're not.
 
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Amira said:
Guys don't pay these online weirdo Somalis any attention. Somalis in real life aren't like this. Most Somalis identify as black, not Arab.
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Somalis that identify as black are just as much lost as those that identify as Arab.
 
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I hope to see a Somalia that offers Arabic to all of it's pupils. I need to see a generation knowing the language of jannah in my lifetime
 
Shimbiris

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SOMALI GENERAL said:
The likelihood of that happening is nearly zilch though.
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Indeed, abowe. This was a fun dream when I was like 18 but then I took a good luck at how clanistic Somalis are and thought "Yeah, these people are literally squabbling over clans within an ethnic group. Good luck getting them to think big about stuff like uniting a region or Humanity or whatever. Better not get ahead of myself..." Salafists are wasting their time with Somalia. Even their Salafist state will collapse due to clanism based on how things look right now. :ftw9nwa:

Somalis need widespread cultural reform.
 
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