Alternate Somalia with or without Siyaad Barre

Fairly straightforward no? More time to recover, less likely for religion to be injected into the conflict as most the arab world was still in it's nationalist phase, etc. Plenty of African countries had civil wars in the time like Nigeria and it was solved fairly swiftly.
How would you envision Somalia recovering in this timeline? A Kacaan like government with a couple qabils ruling over the rest seems the most realistic imo
 
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GemState

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How would you envision Somalia recovering in this timeline? A Kacaan like government with a couple qabils ruling over the rest seems the most realistic imo
Probably a military junta from the biggest qabils, then after a few decades a transition to some kind of democracy

That's pretty much what happened in Nigeria and Indonesia
 

Dalalos_ibn_Adali

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This Osmaniya fanatic actually thinks the Kacaan created Shire Jama script that we use to write today ? lol what uneducated nonsense people believe, the Shire Jama script predates the Kacaan and won multiple appraisal competition during the SYL government. It being adopted was literally in the pipeline when the coup happened in 1969.


The Kacaan just took credit from the SYL government and the inventor Shire Jama. the only credit the kacaan should take is for the literacy campaign, the rest belongs to Shire Jama and the SYL government who were investing in a Somali written language and created he language committee before the coup.
 

Qeelbax

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1. Somalia not being in Arab league (useless)
2. Choosing the Osmanya alphabet instead of Latin
3. Banning foreign foreign islamic institutes and organisations from countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan
4. No Ogaden war but long term insurgency in Ogaden
5. Industrialisation & tourism is heaviy promoted
6. Somali diaspora would still exist
7. No salafism cancer
8. Somali nationalism would be similar to Turkey in terms of being proud
9. Peace and love amongst Soomaalida
10. Ethiopia and Kenya would be shaking today seeing a strong Soomaaliya
Somalis would never be like those athiest Toorks. They literally worship Ataturk.
 
This Osmaniya fanatic actually thinks the Kacaan created Shire Jama script that we use to write today ? lol what uneducated nonsense people believe, the Shire Jama script predates the Kacaan and won multiple appraisal competition during the SYL government. It being adopted was literally in the pipeline when the coup happened in 1969.


The Kacaan just took credit from the SYL government and the inventor Shire Jama. the only credit the kacaan should take is for the literacy campaign, the rest belongs to Shire Jama and the SYL government who were investing in a Somali written language and created he language committee before the coup.
Literally no Somali political party supported osmanya, the choice was between updated wadaads script and Latin script.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
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The siyad topic is over-done. The truth is 50% remember him for bad, the other 50% remember for his good plus no alternative ever claim CLOSE to him.

End that topic now, why re-circulate a topic that will either end in cheers/boo, his outcome was ZERO in the end but it's way better then anything post 91, only one who came close was Abdillahi Yusuf who did BAD initially teaching somalis to violent turn on govts which effects all regions today when someone is unhappy they violently oppose.

But he also did much good PL creation, SFG creation we have today. End result ZERO also. Unfortunately hawiye don't have that culture of changing the chapter so they can also find cheers-boos from Somalis, it's always universal 100% BOOS post 91.

Hawiye is a disease that won't even consider cures(caqli celin), wax bay ku degan, mana laga fujin karo even if the whole world IS BAFFLED.

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Dalalos_ibn_Adali

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Literally no Somali political party supported osmanya, the choice was between updated wadaads script and Latin script.
Osmaniya did have some popularity but it was getting increasingly outshined by Shire Jama script during the 60s, this is why it only took 2 years after the coup to adopt the Shire Jama script officially.

the thing that burns me to the core is that one of the corner stones of Kacaan legacy is the Shire Jama script, something they have no right to take credit for since it was being developed and about to get adopted by the SYL government. The credit goes to Shire Jama and the SYL government, not the Kacaan.

the rest of the OPs anti-Kacaan post I could careless about.
 

Dalalos_ibn_Adali

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SYL did support the osmanya script what you talking about. It was Siyaad Barre fault that latin was adopted
Shire Jama script is being used in Djibouti, Jigjiga, Hargaisa and Mogadishu, its the official written language of the Somali world.

Is that also Siad Barre's fault ?

No it isn't, the best script even recognized by the SYL government was the Shire Jama script, being the best is why it was recognized, officially adopted and used by everybody today ! and its the intellectual property of Rer Dalal Ugaas.

perhaps Puntland should adopt Osmanya.
 

tyrannicalmanager

pseudo-intellectual
How can anyone see the sorry state Somalia is in and not come to the conclusion the rebellion against and overthrowing of the Kacaan regime was a mistake?
 

reer

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How can anyone see the sorry state Somalia is in and not come to the conclusion the rebellion against and overthrowing of the Kacaan regime was a mistake?

lt gen sam okiding taliyaha amisom. you will find somalis who prefer him and au/kenya/ethiopia/beesha caalamka tyranny (and getting frisked searched by amisom in airports) over pre-91.

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