Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed was the greatest president to have conquered Somalia.

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Saalax Bidaar

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Antonio do you have some Cuban Cigars? I want to try it. Send me some. Consider it as good will gesture to your Somali friend
 

Gibiin-Udug

Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
Abdullahi Yusuf AUN was the best president Somalia or Puntland has ever had. May Allah swt open the highest gates of jannah for him. He was a man with intregity, courageous, Remarkable man. A true leader.
 

Arma

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"water and milk should be carried for theEthiopians"

- Saalad Cali Jeele, the 'HAWIYE' Governor of Benadir during the 2006-07 conflict.

Odd how Somalis, always chat smack about MJ and AY (AUN), in regards to the Ethiopian involvement in that conflict, even though high ranking Hawiye clan leaders also sided with the Ethios. Men like, the former Galnus leader Qeybdiid and the Abgaal PM at the time, Gedi. Gedi even made sure that not a single Ethiopian soldier set one foot, into Abgaal territory.

It's very telling how they never say a damn thing about Gedi or Qeybdiid, or how much Abgaal benefited from the great HG culling of 2006, as you know: as Abgaal were second classcitizens in Mogadishu.

Wallahi MJ, haters are the biggest sh*t talkers and hypocrites in the universe. If you're gonna talk a load of rubbish: make sure you're nice and clean.
 

BirtaanJabin

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Ilahayow Adeerkay Cabdillahi Yusuf Ahmed Qabrigis Nuur uga Dhig, Insaan buu aha ee Dhambiyadisa Dhaaf, Ilahayow Janada kula Kulan, Ilahayow Gurigisa Janada kaga ka ag dhis. Ilahayow Janada AlFardowsa Hooy uga dhig Ameen.
Wallahi I'll always love Abdullahi Yusuf.
 
Ok now let’s not regurgitate whats written on Wikipedia.

Everyone and their unborn children knew that Abdullahi Y. had only one thing on his mind when he was elected president and that was exacting revenge with whatever means necessary .

Terrorist kulaha :drakekidding:

I used to be thinking that Abdullahi Yusuf was one of the worst presidents in Somali history since it was under his presidency that the Ethiopians was invited/invaded Somalia and was marching through the streets of our capital for the first time in Somali history. And that opinion did not get weaker after I went to Xamar this summer and talked with my cousins (Habar gidr) and people in cafes who told me about qaxi in 2006 to Celasha Biyaha.

But then when I was talking with my father a couple of weeks ago we started to discuss about somali politics and dagaala sokeeye. I mentioned that mistakes were done on all sides and Abdullahi Yusuf was mentioned and I told my father that he was the worst president in Somalia after the civil war for what he did in 2006/2007.

My father then told me that Abdullahi Yusuf is the reason I could visit Xamar 2017 and the sole reason that Farmaajo could become president 2017. Before Abdullahi Yusuf Xamar was literally a free for all and HG (Salebaan) took advantage and illegally occupied the presidential palace, the mogadishu airport, the mogadishu port and other vital key sectors in the city. Not even the former president Abdiqasim who was from HG (Cayr) was allowed by Habr Gidr (salebaan) to rule from the presidential palace since they were squatting in Villa Somalia.

Abdullahi Yusuf used the Ethiopians as a tool to drive away HG from their illegal gains during the civil war which they understandably did not want to leave for free. They literally treated the national capital as their own territory and since daroods and other clans had been driven out of Xamar in 1991 it was close that Xamar would have been dominated by only HG even today if it wasn't for Abdullahi Yusuf

What I understood from that discussion is that things are never black or white but always and especially in the Somali case very grey.

And no, I'm not MJ before someone accuses me of "supporting" him because of ties
 

Abdalla

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I used to be thinking that Abdullahi Yusuf was one of the worst presidents in Somali history since it was under his presidency that the Ethiopians was invited/invaded Somalia and was marching through the streets of our capital for the first time in Somali history. And that opinion did not get weaker after I went to Xamar this summer and talked with my cousins (Habar gidr) and people in cafes who told me about qaxi in 2006 to Celasha Biyaha.

But then when I was talking with my father a couple of weeks ago we started to discuss about somali politics and dagaala sokeeye. I mentioned that mistakes were done on all sides and Abdullahi Yusuf was mentioned and I told my father that he was the worst president in Somalia after the civil war for what he did in 2006/2007.

My father then told me that Abdullahi Yusuf is the reason I could visit Xamar 2017 and the sole reason that Farmaajo could become president 2017. Before Abdullahi Yusuf Xamar was literally a free for all and HG (Salebaan) took advantage and illegally occupied the presidential palace, the mogadishu airport, the mogadishu port and other vital key sectors in the city. Not even the former president Abdiqasim who was from HG (Cayr) was allowed by Habr Gidr (salebaan) to rule from the presidential palace since they were squatting in Villa Somalia.

Abdullahi Yusuf used the Ethiopians as a tool to drive away HG from their illegal gains during the civil war which they understandably did not want to leave for free. They literally treated the national capital as their own territory and since daroods and other clans had been driven out of Xamar in 1991 it was close that Xamar would have been dominated by only HG even today if it wasn't for Abdullahi Yusuf

What I understood from that discussion is that things are never black or white but always and especially in the Somali case very grey.

And no, I'm not MJ before someone accuses me of "supporting" him because of ties

God bless your father. Please send him my regards.
 
I think this video more or less sums it up how the situation was during the early and late 2000s. Correct me if I missed something.
 

saywalahi

Xamar Living
I used to be thinking that Abdullahi Yusuf was one of the worst presidents in Somali history since it was under his presidency that the Ethiopians was invited/invaded Somalia and was marching through the streets of our capital for the first time in Somali history. And that opinion did not get weaker after I went to Xamar this summer and talked with my cousins (Habar gidr) and people in cafes who told me about qaxi in 2006 to Celasha Biyaha.

But then when I was talking with my father a couple of weeks ago we started to discuss about somali politics and dagaala sokeeye. I mentioned that mistakes were done on all sides and Abdullahi Yusuf was mentioned and I told my father that he was the worst president in Somalia after the civil war for what he did in 2006/2007.

My father then told me that Abdullahi Yusuf is the reason I could visit Xamar 2017 and the sole reason that Farmaajo could become president 2017. Before Abdullahi Yusuf Xamar was literally a free for all and HG (Salebaan) took advantage and illegally occupied the presidential palace, the mogadishu airport, the mogadishu port and other vital key sectors in the city. Not even the former president Abdiqasim who was from HG (Cayr) was allowed by Habr Gidr (salebaan) to rule from the presidential palace since they were squatting in Villa Somalia.

Abdullahi Yusuf used the Ethiopians as a tool to drive away HG from their illegal gains during the civil war which they understandably did not want to leave for free. They literally treated the national capital as their own territory and since daroods and other clans had been driven out of Xamar in 1991 it was close that Xamar would have been dominated by only HG even today if it wasn't for Abdullahi Yusuf

What I understood from that discussion is that things are never black or white but always and especially in the Somali case very grey.

And no, I'm not MJ before someone accuses me of "supporting" him because of ties

You’re right HG salebaan did squat in villa somalia and the ports during the 90’s but they were kicked out in 2000 by abdiqasim


HG salebaan refused anyone to sit in villa Somalia unless there was an HG President.
 
You’re right HG salebaan did squat in villa somalia and the ports during the 90’s but they were kicked out in 2000 by abdiqasim


HG salebaan refused anyone to sit in villa Somalia unless there was an HG President.

But Abdiqasim had to rule from his personal residency during his years as president of the transitional national government of Somalia. And even Abdullahi Yusuf couldn’t begin his presidency in Villa somalia and had to use the Ethiopians to open up villa Somalia to the government by force
 

saywalahi

Xamar Living
But Abdiqasim had to rule from his personal residency during his years as president of the transitional national government of Somalia. And even Abdullahi Yusuf couldn’t begin his presidency in Villa somalia and had to use the Ethiopians to open up villa Somalia to the government by force
Even after the eithiopian invasion AY couldn’t step a foot in xamar he was called villa baydhabo

And no abdiqasim ruled from villa Somalia

The first Daroad President to rule from xamar after the civil war is Farmaajo and that’s with the blessing of hawiye


And the reason you were able to visit xamar is also because of hawiye lack of cuqdad



Basically eithpoia toppled the ICU (multi tribal)

And hizbul Islam (HG) took over xamar
 
Even after the eithiopian invasion AY couldn’t step a foot in xamar he was called villa baydhabo

And no abdiqasim ruled from villa Somalia

The first Daroad President to rule from xamar after the civil war is Farmaajo and that’s with the blessing of hawiye


And the reason you were able to visit xamar is also because of hawiye lack of cuqdad



Basically eithpoia toppled the ICU (multi tribal)

And hizbul Islam (HG) took over xamar

If that’s the case how do you explain that AY relocated to Villa Somalia 8 January 2007? The last year of this presidency was from Xamar and not Baydhabo. And this was possible when HG salebaan was driven out of Villa Somalia and most mooryaans (using the word in a non-tribalistic since I use it for anyone who oppress others with the threat of a gun) was forced to flee back to the bush from the Ethiopians.

How did Abdiqasim rule from Villa Somalia if the entire area surrounding Villa Somalia from howlwadaag to wardhigleey was a no go zone for the TNG in the early 2000?

Do you really think that if HG (especially caydiids faction) had not been weakened militarily in 2006/2007 that they would had let a Darood president in Xamar? There are a lot of things that I disagree with AY (aun) but this is one of the better things he did. He paved the road for a more balanced capital and strengthening of the government.

If the reason why I was able to visit Xamar is because of Hawiyes lack of cuqdad (nothing bad against non-tribal walaalos from beesha Hawiye) how come that the same people were singing “Reer Diini haa la dhameeyo” a mere 20 years ago?
 

saywalahi

Xamar Living
If that’s the case how do you explain that AY relocated to Villa Somalia 8 January 2007? The last year of this presidency was from Xamar and not Baydhabo. And this was possible when HG salebaan was driven out of Villa Somalia and most mooryaans (using the word in a non-tribalistic since I use it for anyone who oppress others with the threat of a gun) was forced to flee back to the bush from the Ethiopians.

How did Abdiqasim rule from Villa Somalia if the entire area surrounding Villa Somalia from howlwadaag to wardhigleey was a no go zone for the TNG in the early 2000?

Do you really think that if HG (especially caydiids faction) had not been weakened militarily in 2006/2007 that they would had let a Darood president in Xamar? There are a lot of things that I disagree with AY (aun) but this is one of the better things he did. He paved the road for a more balanced capital and strengthening of the government.

If the reason why I was able to visit Xamar is because of Hawiyes lack of cuqdad (nothing bad against non-tribal walaalos from beesha Hawiye) how come that the same people were singing “Reer Diini haa la dhameeyo” a mere 20 years ago?
Lol @ caydiid faction was weakened :mjlol:

Bro ICU was a cayr,weceysle project

Literally dahir aweys and sheik sheriff ran ICU

Sacad we’re marginalized during the ICU era

Qeybdiid a famous slaughter of Mejerteens actually went out of his way to help AY


HG salebaan left villa Somali 2000 that’s a fact


AY came for a few months and ran after the eithpoia s left and Hizbul Islam took over


1991 was the year of the awakening hawiye went nuts, do u want a repeat ?:pachah1:


As I said only reason you’re in xamar is because hawiye are trying to move beyond qablisim and are building their city.
 
Lol @ caydiid faction was weakened :mjlol:

Bro ICU was a cayr,weceysle project

Literally dahir aweys and sheik sheriff ran ICU

Sacad we’re marginalized during the ICU era

Qeybdiid a famous slaughter of Mejerteens actually went out of his way to help AY


HG salebaan left villa Somali 2000 that’s a fact


AY came for a few months and ran after the eithpoia s left and Hizbul Islam took over


1991 was the year of the awakening hawiye went nuts, do u want a repeat ?:pachah1:


As I said only reason you’re in xamar is because hawiye are trying to move beyond qablisim and are building their city.

See it was that easy to bring the qabyalaad within you bro :siilaanyolaugh:

One minute talking about how somalis should overcome qabilism and then the next second talk like “Xamar unuka leh” and repeat of 1991.

To answer your question, No i don’t want a repeat of 1991 since I have cousins who are hawiye and HG and we all now that most victims to USC were other Hawiyes :farmajoyaab:
 
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