Zina Should be Banned.

If both parties agree to it, why you have problem with it? there is no harm to it, as long as both parties are responsible, and the family bs. it would happened regardless of the status of the parities relationship .

i find it crazy, how they were more developed than many nations now. This people understood many things that people still argue over.

The greek had the most masculine men, who understood to show their masculine they had to dominate other men. AND Now we are stuck with soy boy who complain about gay marriage:snoop: How has our society fall into this path we are in.
We are Muslim we believe in objective morality not relativism you filthy marxist
 
Zina is absolutely harmful to women and men. Instead of banning it outright (which doesn't work), why isn't there a cultural push to educate against the harms of it?
It is a badge of honor for a girl to lose her virginity in the country I live in. Girls and Boys who are virgins are shamed especially the girls who are encouraged to commit zina at an young age
 

GemState

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Zina is actively destroying the society I live in. It is destroying the West and then people will attack you if you tell it like it is and point this out.

Instead, we're supposed to pretend like the total destruction of the family structure is perfectly fine and normal and isn't causing all sorts of problems.

It's like the house is on fire and then people get mad at you for pointing out there's a fire and start attacking you if the fire should be put out. Islam is absolutely right, the sharia is absolutely right. Islam promotes outlawing zina, this is very clear and indisputable, it isn't my own idea. And obviously this is absolutely right.

Zina leads to the destruction of the family structure and the destruction of the family unit leads to all sorts of evils. Plus there's the issue of it likely leading to divine wrath. It's like the West wakes up every day and says "what can I do today to beg for divine wrath?". Zina serves to destroy the society, it does not only effect the individual. These evils lead to trouble for all the society and not only those who perpetuate them.
And how will you enforce banning Zina? Morality police?
 

reer

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And how will you enforce banning Zina? Morality police?
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If both parties agree to it, why you have problem with it? there is no harm to it, as long as both parties are responsible, and the family bs. it would happened regardless of the status of the parities relationship .

i find it crazy, how they were more developed than many nations now. This people understood many things that people still argue over.

The greek had the most masculine men, who understood to show their masculine they had to dominate other men. AND Now we are stuck with soy boy who complain about gay marriage:snoop: How has our society fall into this path we are in.

Gaal taha waas, how are you 'muslim' and saying this?
 

Omar del Sur

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Premarital sex is wrong, yes, but Muslims got bigger problems than zina to deal with first, which would be impossible to ban to begin with. Murders, suicide, rape, etc.



ok well let me snatch your wallet and when you object I'mma say

"Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

you fall and break your leg

"Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

you don't pay your rent and you sleep on the sidewalk

"Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

you get cancer in your stones and are dying of ball cancer

"Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."...

Energy company calls me to pay my bill... "sorry"... "Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

I walk out the restaurant without paying... staff start chasing me... "sorry"... "Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."
 

AbrahamFreedom

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ok well let me snatch your wallet and when you object I'mma say

"Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

you fall and break your leg

"Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

you don't pay your rent and you sleep on the sidewalk

"Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

you get cancer in your stones and are dying of ball cancer

"Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."...

Energy company calls me to pay my bill... "sorry"... "Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

I walk out the restaurant without paying... staff start chasing me... "sorry"... "Muslims got bigger problems... to deal with first... Murders, suicide, rape, etc."

I don't agree with premarital sex but it's impossible to ban. I won't include you since you're a revert and your past sins have been erased (even though I know you did it when you were kafir) but I am sure most of the quite practising people on this site have committed zina. You can't ban people from acting on their feelings. You can only enforce penalties.
 

Omar del Sur

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I don't agree with premarital sex but it's impossible to ban. I won't include you since you're a revert and your past sins have been erased (even though I know you did it when you were kafir) but I am sure most of the quite practising people on this site have committed zina. You can't ban people from acting on their feelings. You can only enforce penalties.

Firstly- here is what we know indisputably if we take Islam as our starting point:

Zina is wrong and should be outlawed.

This is very clear without any room for dispute.


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The society you live in is too far gone for the banning of fornication to even be a possibility at this time. They have normalized it to the extent they can’t fathom waiting until marriage. Majority of non-Muslims worship their desires like there’s no tomorrow.

People who base their short-term and long-term aspirations on their desires would have a very hard time banning zina. Only way it works is if people submit to their creator first and then begin living like how Muslims with taqwa should live. A Muslim should discipline their nafs to become upright and obedient to Allah’s commands.

In my opinion, people like that are easily susceptible to influence by external forces. Corporations or figures just have to appeal to their base desires to convince them to buy a service or commit an illicit act. Islam would give those types of people clearer thinking and stronger wills to resist temptations in all its forms. Which is why many actively work to ruin the image of Islam to the uninformed masses.
 
Premarital sex is wrong, yes, but Muslims got bigger problems than zina to deal with first, which would be impossible to ban to begin with. Murders, suicide, rape, etc.


Zina is the second worse sin, Our main problem is murder (suicide comes under this) and zina(rape comes under this aswell)
 
I don't agree with premarital sex but it's impossible to ban. I won't include you since you're a revert and your past sins have been erased (even though I know you did it when you were kafir) but I am sure most of the quite practising people on this site have committed zina. You can't ban people from acting on their feelings. You can only enforce penalties.
Theres banning zina and there changing societal attitudes around it.
First we need to change societal attitudes, then enforce the banning of it once it is already seen as something bad and to stay away from by soceity
 

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