Zina Should be Banned.

Omar del Sur

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Zina is actively destroying the society I live in. It is destroying the West and then people will attack you if you tell it like it is and point this out.

Instead, we're supposed to pretend like the total destruction of the family structure is perfectly fine and normal and isn't causing all sorts of problems.

It's like the house is on fire and then people get mad at you for pointing out there's a fire and start attacking you if the fire should be put out. Islam is absolutely right, the sharia is absolutely right. Islam promotes outlawing zina, this is very clear and indisputable, it isn't my own idea. And obviously this is absolutely right.

Zina leads to the destruction of the family structure and the destruction of the family unit leads to all sorts of evils. Plus there's the issue of it likely leading to divine wrath. It's like the West wakes up every day and says "what can I do today to beg for divine wrath?". Zina serves to destroy the society, it does not only effect the individual. These evils lead to trouble for all the society and not only those who perpetuate them.
 

Omar del Sur

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then if you say what I just said- they will say this is "extremism" will they not? the house is on fire and they tell you it is "extremism" if you suggest putting out the fire. you're supposed to sit back and let the house burn- with you in it! instead what matters is "freedom" even if this "freedom" means the destruction of the society. the whole society can be ruined but this abstract notion of "freedom" is more important than the concrete well-being of human beings. it is ok if children live under terrible living conditions with broken homes being the norm, it doesn't matter how this affects innocent children- supposedly. we're supposed to just sit back and accept all these evils.
 

ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
Also everything that leads to Zina like music, drugs, immodesty dressing etc
 

ZBR

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Also regardless how how much contraceptives people use, people who engage in zina are extremely likely to have children out of wedlock

children out of wedlock is the cause of lack of social cohesion

I don’t want to pick on a certain group but looking at this it’s clear normalization of zina makes success a fever dream or a pie in the sky


Percentage of US births to unwed mothers: Blacks, 77%
Hispanics, 57%
Hispanic immigrants, 49%
Black immigrants, 34%
Whites, 30%
Asians, 27%
White Immigrants, 13%
Asian immigrants, 11%


 
Zina is actively destroying the society I live in. It is destroying the West and then people will attack you if you tell it like it is and point this out.

Instead, we're supposed to pretend like the total destruction of the family structure is perfectly fine and normal and isn't causing all sorts of problems.

It's like the house is on fire and then people get mad at you for pointing out there's a fire and start attacking you if the fire should be put out. Islam is absolutely right, the sharia is absolutely right. Islam promotes outlawing zina, this is very clear and indisputable, it isn't my own idea. And obviously this is absolutely right.

Zina leads to the destruction of the family structure and the destruction of the family unit leads to all sorts of evils. Plus there's the issue of it likely leading to divine wrath. It's like the West wakes up every day and says "what can I do today to beg for divine wrath?". Zina serves to destroy the society, it does not only effect the individual. These evils lead to trouble for all the society and not only those who perpetuate them.
oh give it a rest!

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ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
here come the why complain about the west they accepted you blah blah nonsense.
The west will right their wrongs they’re quick to realize what they’re doing wrong and recover but it will be more difficult for other as they keep shifting blame. The irrational underclass will languish in failure due to unwillingness to submit to “consequentialness of reality “

a example is native Americans they fell to the all vices Americans overcame , and it will be very difficult for them to overcome
 
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Zina is actively destroying the society I live in. It is destroying the West and then people will attack you if you tell it like it is and point this out.

Instead, we're supposed to pretend like the total destruction of the family structure is perfectly fine and normal and isn't causing all sorts of problems.

It's like the house is on fire and then people get mad at you for pointing out there's a fire and start attacking you if the fire should be put out. Islam is absolutely right, the sharia is absolutely right. Islam promotes outlawing zina, this is very clear and indisputable, it isn't my own idea. And obviously this is absolutely right.

Zina leads to the destruction of the family structure and the destruction of the family unit leads to all sorts of evils. Plus there's the issue of it likely leading to divine wrath. It's like the West wakes up every day and says "what can I do today to beg for divine wrath?". Zina serves to destroy the society, it does not only effect the individual. These evils lead to trouble for all the society and not only those who perpetuate them.

Zina is absolutely harmful to women and men. Instead of banning it outright (which doesn't work), why isn't there a cultural push to educate against the harms of it?
 

ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
Also emulation , dressing or association with people of zina will soon rub on you
 

ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
Zina is absolutely harmful to women and men. Instead of banning it outright (which doesn't work), why isn't there a cultural push to educate against the harms of it?
The Roman Emperor Augustus, who was the first of the Roman Golden Age “ Pax Romana” enacted a strict set of laws known as the Lex Iulia de Adulteriis Coercendis (Julian Law of Coercion Against Adultery) in 17 BC. The purpose of this law was to strengthen the institution of marriage and punish those who engaged in extra-marital affairs. Under this Roman law, adultery, fornication, and other forms of immoral behavior were treated as criminal offenses, people were sentenced to death, or l exile

This law was especially to preserve the morality of the elites and nobles, one the most famous and lauded Latin poets of the time, Ovid, was sentenced to exile so it wasn’t just lip service

Also fornication was typically against the law in the United States until the 1950s. In 1962, the Supreme Court ruled that laws against consensual sexual activity between unmarried persons was unconstitutional.
 

Omar del Sur

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Zina is absolutely harmful to women and men. Instead of banning it outright (which doesn't work), why isn't there a cultural push to educate against the harms of it?

The philosophy that it's wrong to ban things is contrary to Islam. "don't ban drugs, it doesn't work"....

if we applied that to everything and didn't ban anything, the society would be chaos.

But anyways this is totally different than what Islam teaches. Islam teaches a completely different approach.

That's not to say everything bad should be banned by force of law. But some things should be banned there is no doubt from the Islamic standpoint that zina should be banned.

There is mention of education. But education and banning are not mutually exclusively- they should both be done. Take the measures and inform the population as to why they should support the measures. They can do all sorts of methods to boost popular support. But Islam does indeed say it should be banned and for that reason I see it as unquestionable that it should be banned. I have no business questioning my Creator. I can see the breakdown of the family structure around me, I can see effects on society, harms. All this is due to people not obeying their Creator. Given that not obeying our Creator has been tried and has failed, people should try the alternative and obey our Creator- and then I believe people would be much happier.
 

Baarisiyomoos

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Lol do you guys think zina is simply a western thing? People of all cultures fall into zina, more specifically young people because their hormones run rampant. The obvious answer is to encourage marriage to reduce zina.
 

ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
Western culture isn’t Zina and it’s had very rigorous discipline even before Christianity

Also if you look at Islam, it’s the way of all the successful nations. We have the blueprint of what the Jews Christians Romans Arabs Egyptians etc used Allah has condensed all wisdom in it
 

Omar del Sur

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Lol do you guys think zina is simply a western thing?

also I'm well aware it's not only a Western thing. but my op was describing the society I live in.

also- some non-Western societies are similar in terms of zina being an issue and in some it is not as bad. I'm sure it takes place in every society but how common it is will vary based on the society.
 
Zina is undeniably a problem, especially when it comes to the kids that are born out of wedlock. I don't see how it is going to be controlled any time soon. We are increasingly urban, parents don't have much authority over their kids, anonymity with broken social ties. It's hard to police it without involving bloated government agencies or dystopian surveillance. I think these things are naturally managed at family and community level- those two institutions aren't doing too well right now idk .
 
Zina is undeniably a problem, especially when it comes to the kids that are born out of wedlock. I don't see how it is going to be controlled any time soon. We are increasingly urban, parents don't have much authority over their kids, anonymity with broken social ties. It's hard to police it without involving bloated government agencies or dystopian surveillance. I think these things are naturally managed at family and community level- those two institutions aren't doing too well right now idk .
the thing is zina doens;t always lead to children born out of wedlock
how many married couples do you know who havent had children for years, its not hard to avoid having children.
 

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