Youtube channels aids ukraine by telling history

[Aurelian]

So many Youtube history channels start a project to tell the history of Ukraine in an attempt to challenge the Russian propaganda in undermining the Ukrainian statehood, identity and its existence by just telling history.

I think this is a very good weapon to fight those who try to steal history and lands or question your connection to your home, like Omanis claim to somali coasts or Oromos on Harar and Dire dhabe or Habeshis on Somali Galbeed and Somalia proper.

 

[Nomadic lord]

wait Omanis want to claim our coast for what reason?

 

[Aurelian]

wait Omanis want to claim our coast for what reason?

no, they are saying they ruled the eastern somali coasts

But infact their empire was like this

So telling the right history the only way to challenge that

 

[Hamzza]

wait Omanis want to claim our coast for what reason?

They ruled us sxb, this was our sultan in mogadishu

 

[Nomadic lord]

They ruled us sxb, this was our sultan in mogadishuView attachment 221136

No just no

 

[Hamzza]

No just no

Are you going to ignore the evidence infront of you?

 

[Aurelian]

Are you going to ignore the evidence infront of you?

A pic with a name of it?

was he in Mogadishu? Because it is known that zanjibaris claimed the whole eastern coasts of Somalia, but had only some influence in Mogadishu and barawa. But they couldn’t even construct a building without Somali ruling authority.

 

[Hamzza]

A pic with a name of it?

was he in Mogadishu? Because it is known that zanjibaris claimed the whole eastern coasts of Somalia, but had only some influence in Mogadishu and barawa. But they couldn’t even construct a building without Somali ruling authority.

Yes he was the governor of mogadishu and marka

 

[Nomadic lord]

Yes he was the governor of mogadishu and marka
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I don't believe you what's your source?

 

[Aurelian]

Yes he was the governor of mogadishu and marka
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Yet pays a tribute to local Somali authority?

 

[Hamzza]

I don't believe you what's your source?

I showed you the omani fort in mogadishu and it's governor what sources do you want?

 

[Lebron James]

I showed you the omani fort in mogadishu and it's governor what sources do you want?

written documents of their rule

 

[Hamzza]

Yet pays a tribute to local Somali authority?

He was an outsider force who subjected the local somalis of mogadishu, how can he pay a tribute?

 

[Hamzza]

written documents of their rule

They leased the benadir ports of warshiikh, mogadishu, marka and baraawe to the italians .
They owned those ports before they leased.

 

[Aurelian]

I showed you the omani fort in mogadishu and it's governor what sources do you want?

They were just claiming of having the port of banadir where in fact it was controlled by Geledi Sultanate according to historical records

"Already at this period the Sultanate of Zanzibar claimed so yreignty over the Benadir ports, but the control exercised was merely nominal. As far as liogadishu was concerned, it was Yusuf who had the more immediately superior power." –––– Virginia Luling "The social structure of southern Somali tribes"

They had a fort was Omani because the Geledi approved it.

The removal of decorative images of so-called governors, who didn't actually govern anything according to several sources. These so-called governors were in-fact ceremonial. This combined with Sayyid Barghash having to ask for permission from the Geledi Sultan to build a fort in the city shows that beyond 'claiming' they had no control or impact on the day to day of the city, which was in-fact in the hands of the local Mogadishans and the Geledi Sultan.

Another mistake people make is Zanzibar didn't lease Mogadishu to the Italians which has already been discredited.

The Sultan of Zanzibar later leased and then sold the infrastructure that he had built to the Italians, although not the land which is wrongfully stated by some accounts.

He was an outsider force who subjected the local somalis of mogadishu, how can he pay a tribute?

'' The Somali tribe of Ruhwaina. The Chief of this and other tribes behind Brava, Marka and Mogdisho is Ahmed Yusuf, who resides at Galhed, one day's march or less from the latter town. Two days further inland is Dafert, a large town governed by Aweka Haji, his brother. These are the principal towns of the Ruhwaina. At four, five, and six hours respectively from Marka lie the towns of Golveen (Golweyn), Bulo Mareerta, and Addormo, governed by Abobokur Yusuf, another brother who though nominally under the orders of the first-named chief, levies black-mail on his own account, and negotiates with the governors of Marka and Brava direct. He resides with about 2,000 soldiers principally slaves at Bulo Mareta; the towns of Gulveen which he often vists and Addormo being occupied by somalis growing produce, cattle &c. and doing a large trade with Marka. The brother of Sultan Ahmed, Abobokur Yusuf managed the lands opposite the Banadir ports of Brava & Marka and also received a tribute from Brava.

This Abobokur Yusuf was accustomed to send messengers to Brava for tribute, and he drew thence about 2,000 dollars per annum. ''

Source: House of Commons Accounts and Papers

 

[Hamzza]

hey were just claiming of having the port of banadir where in fact it was controlled by Geledi Sultanate according to historical records

Geledi sultnate didn't control banadir ports they had influence over the chiefs of mogadishu and baraawe only, the towns were officially under the hands of the zanzibari omanis.

They had a fort was Omani because the Geledi approved it.

The people of shangaani approved tge building of the fort after pressure from sultan ahmed of geledi.

Another mistake people make is Zanzibar didn't lease Mogadishu to the Italians which has already been discredited.

The Sultan of Zanzibar later leased and then sold the infrastructure that he had built to the Italians, although not the land which is wrongfully stated by some accounts.

They leased the towns of mogadishu, marka and baraawe with 10 mile radius to the italians.
The documents are there to proof

 

[Aurelian]

Geledi sultnate didn't control banadir ports they had influence over the chiefs of mogadishu and baraawe only, the towns were officially under the hands of the zanzibari omanis.

The people of shangaani approved tge building of the fort after pressure from sultan ahmed of geledi.

They leased the towns of mogadishu, marka and baraawe with 10 mile radius to the italians.
The documents are there to proof

There are docmuents from 1800s proving that omanis asked the Geledi sultan to build a fort there one of which is ––––Africa in the nineteenth century until the 1880s. Go check it

And that what the Omanis leased to the Italians the Buildings not the lands because they didn't own it to give it away, let alone giving them a whole city