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Worshipping Muhammed PBUH

Does it seem that some Muslims almost have a Worship Kind of Relationship with the Messenger of Allah rather than Standard Respect many dismiss this and call it Reverence but their Actions say otherwise.

I believe Prophet Muhammad PHUB would disown the pedestal on which he has been placed by tradition.

The matter of "emulation" is just one aspect of the idolization, but it happens in many other respects too.

Historically (and from the perspective of the Quran), Muhammad did not claim superiority or exceptionalism over other messengers. He was an ordinary mortal, whose only distinction was that he delivered God's message. His message was pluralist and ecumenical, and those who heeded to his message were on the same footing as those who sincerely heeded to the same message that was brought by previous messengers. But the shahadatayn started to gain prominence around the end of the 7th century and the start of the 8th, when "Islam" emerged as an exclusivist faith with particular emphasis on Muhammad. Not only was his name added next to God's name in the Shahada, but not recognizing his messengership was considered tantamount to disbelief, even among people who did not interact with him when he was alive.

Then they upped the ante. They started writing his name next to God's name in mosques, and rarely is God's name invoked or written, without Muhammad's name mentioned alongside, and then extending it to more problematic concepts like Tabarruk (veneration of body parts and body fluids) and intercession, among others. Here are some reasons why I believe the idolization of Muhammad is prevalent in tradition (this is a snippet from a previous comment of mine, please forgive its acerbic tone):

  1. Writing Muhammad's name alongside God's name (against his will) in mosques and calligraphies everywhere, instead of commemorating God alone (39:45, 33:41-43, 18:110, 41:6).
  2. Corruption of the shahada, and joining Muhammad's name (against his will) with God's (39:45, 3:18, 47:19, 48:28-29, 2:136, 2:255, 59:22-24, 21:87, 2:136, 63:1, 18:110, 41:6).
  3. Calling Muhammad directly in second person singular during the Salat and in Masjids, instead of calling God alone (39:45, 72:18, 20:14).
  4. Commemorating Muhammad along with God through the durood in every salat, instead of commemorating God alone (39:45, 20:14, 29:45, 6:162).
  5. Glorifying Muhammad day and night with "salawat", distorting 33:56 and taking the passage 33:40-62 out of context (33:40-62, 18:110, 41:6).
  6. Advocating the veneration of body parts and body fluids of Muhammad and objects touched by part of his body, through the concept of Tabarruk (39:3, 18:110, 41:6, 25:55).
  7. Turning Muhammad's grave site into a second "Haraam", even though the Quran mentions only one Masjid Al Haraam (16:20-21, 35:22, 18:110, 41:6, 39:3, 25:55).
  8. Glorifying Muhammad against his will, elevating him as "the best of creation", singing naats and qasidahs, and making a distinction among God's messengers (18:110, 41:6, 39:3, 25:55).
  9. Accusing Muhammad of fabricating a parallel religion that have nothing in common with the religion that he taught through the Quran, with silly rules and practices like rules for urination and defecation, drinking camel urine, banning of music, art, kites, chess, mohawks, gold and silk for men, banning menstruating women from praying, fasting, entering masjids, touching mushafs and many misogynistic rules oppressing women, advocating killing blasphemers and apostates, stoning adulterers, offensive warfare and the capture and rape of war captives (69:44-46, 6:19, 39:23, 45:6, 77:50, 7:185, 31:6, 6:112-116).
It's almost as though Islam has been Extremely Distorted and Stripped from its Very Function which Submission and Exclusive Subscription to the Ultimate Authority of Allah but how can one perfectly practise this when they worship a Man who is Flesh and Blood like them.

I do recognize the Immense Task and Responsibility of the Rassol'allah and his Guidance to Humanity but Worshipping him undermines the very thing he fought and sacrificed his life countless times for.
 

cunug3aad

3rdchild · Ogleyow ogow
I have thouhgt about this subject in the past and it is an important one to clarify lakn its 1am and i need to sleep i will do it tomorrow morning
 
WHO is worshipping Muhammad? We are not of the Christians stop this slander.

He is making false claims because he has a different agenda. He’s trying to push Quranist thinking, and the rejection of Hadith. He practically called the Hadiths a parallel religion. Most of the stuff he is saying have Hadith supporting it. Like the virtue of sending salutations on the Prophet s.a.w, the at-taxiyaat with the shahaadah which was taught to us through hadiths on how to pray.

How can you even question and ask as a Muslim why does the testimony of faith include the Prophet s.a.w as well “I bear witness that there is no God worthy of worship except Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is his slave and Messenger”

So you are rejecting the first pillar of Islam. Cajiib! That’s what happens when you want to follow your desires…
 
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Kulaha

But the shahadatayn started to gain prominence around the end of the 7th century and the start of the 8th, when "Islam" emerged as an exclusivist faith with particular emphasis on Muhammad. Not only was his name added next to God's name in the Shahada, but not recognizing his messengership was considered tantamount to disbelief, even among people who did not interact with him when he was alive.”

The only Shaytaan here is you and whatever rubbish you’re trying to spread. Not believing in His messengership doesn’t amount to disbelief? You ain’t even a quranist because they at least believe that Nabi Muhammad s.a.w was a Prophet and Messenger of God.

If you believe all that you wrote or copied and pasted from somewhere else then no doubt you’re a clear gaal and have no Islam. Believing in the Messengership of Nabi Muhammad s.a.w is the first pillar of faith and tenant of Islam.
 
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Khal Mah Oma

Drink shaah
I have thouhgt about this subject in the past and it is an important one to clarify lakn its 1am and i need to sleep i will do it tomorrow morning

wake up! It’s 9:53 am (UK time: London)

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Vacelere

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Does it seem that some Muslims almost have a Worship Kind of Relationship with the Messenger of Allah rather than Standard Respect many dismiss this and call it Reverence but their Actions say otherwise.

I believe Prophet Muhammad PHUB would disown the pedestal on which he has been placed by tradition.

The matter of "emulation" is just one aspect of the idolization, but it happens in many other respects too.

Historically (and from the perspective of the Quran), Muhammad did not claim superiority or exceptionalism over other messengers. He was an ordinary mortal, whose only distinction was that he delivered God's message. His message was pluralist and ecumenical, and those who heeded to his message were on the same footing as those who sincerely heeded to the same message that was brought by previous messengers. But the shahadatayn started to gain prominence around the end of the 7th century and the start of the 8th, when "Islam" emerged as an exclusivist faith with particular emphasis on Muhammad. Not only was his name added next to God's name in the Shahada, but not recognizing his messengership was considered tantamount to disbelief, even among people who did not interact with him when he was alive.

Then they upped the ante. They started writing his name next to God's name in mosques, and rarely is God's name invoked or written, without Muhammad's name mentioned alongside, and then extending it to more problematic concepts like Tabarruk (veneration of body parts and body fluids) and intercession, among others. Here are some reasons why I believe the idolization of Muhammad is prevalent in tradition (this is a snippet from a previous comment of mine, please forgive its acerbic tone):

  1. Writing Muhammad's name alongside God's name (against his will) in mosques and calligraphies everywhere, instead of commemorating God alone (39:45, 33:41-43, 18:110, 41:6).
  2. Corruption of the shahada, and joining Muhammad's name (against his will) with God's (39:45, 3:18, 47:19, 48:28-29, 2:136, 2:255, 59:22-24, 21:87, 2:136, 63:1, 18:110, 41:6).
  3. Calling Muhammad directly in second person singular during the Salat and in Masjids, instead of calling God alone (39:45, 72:18, 20:14).
  4. Commemorating Muhammad along with God through the durood in every salat, instead of commemorating God alone (39:45, 20:14, 29:45, 6:162).
  5. Glorifying Muhammad day and night with "salawat", distorting 33:56 and taking the passage 33:40-62 out of context (33:40-62, 18:110, 41:6).
  6. Advocating the veneration of body parts and body fluids of Muhammad and objects touched by part of his body, through the concept of Tabarruk (39:3, 18:110, 41:6, 25:55).
  7. Turning Muhammad's grave site into a second "Haraam", even though the Quran mentions only one Masjid Al Haraam (16:20-21, 35:22, 18:110, 41:6, 39:3, 25:55).
  8. Glorifying Muhammad against his will, elevating him as "the best of creation", singing naats and qasidahs, and making a distinction among God's messengers (18:110, 41:6, 39:3, 25:55).
  9. Accusing Muhammad of fabricating a parallel religion that have nothing in common with the religion that he taught through the Quran, with silly rules and practices like rules for urination and defecation, drinking camel urine, banning of music, art, kites, chess, mohawks, gold and silk for men, banning menstruating women from praying, fasting, entering masjids, touching mushafs and many misogynistic rules oppressing women, advocating killing blasphemers and apostates, stoning adulterers, offensive warfare and the capture and rape of war captives (69:44-46, 6:19, 39:23, 45:6, 77:50, 7:185, 31:6, 6:112-116).
It's almost as though Islam has been Extremely Distorted and Stripped from its Very Function which Submission and Exclusive Subscription to the Ultimate Authority of Allah but how can one perfectly practise this when they worship a Man who is Flesh and Blood like them.

I do recognize the Immense Task and Responsibility of the Rassol'allah and his Guidance to Humanity but Worshipping him undermines the very thing he fought and sacrificed his life countless times for.
Aside from what some sufi extremist do most of what your said is encouraged in islam through sunnah and quran.

The verses your using is out of context and you don't know when and where and to whom and why it was revealed, that's why we can't just take verses and apply it on people.

Like sahada and the baraka of the prophet body and his masjid being a holy place and him being the best creation and salawat is all halal so if you want to discuss it one by one I'm happy to do so
 

cunug3aad

3rdchild · Ogleyow ogow
Ok i woke up

In islaam the most central concept is tawxiid to single out Allaah only for all the worship and it is mentioned alot in the Quraan for example

فَادْعُوا اللَّهَ مُخْلِصِينَ لَهُ الدِّينَ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْكَافِرُونَ So invoke Allaah, as mukhlisiin [singly devoted and sincere], for Him [His sake] is the Diin- and despite the disbelievers neceyb

And also the first shahaada which is taken from all over the Quraan
لَا إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا الله

So therefore the most important matter in the diin is to establish what constitutes an إله ilah (it is an entity that is worshiped) - and then what constitutes worship

The concept of worship (العِبَادَة) in Islaam is one that has been studied extensively and there are many texts about it and so out of my fear of getting something wrong about this i will just paraphrase from a work i am quite acquainted with, i shall put you on salafi manhaj

سُلَّمُ الْوُصُولِ إِلَى عِلْمِ الْأُصُولِ فِي تَوْحِيدِ اللَّهِ وَاتِّبَاعِ الرَّسُولِ ، صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ
Ladder of Attainment To The Science of Usuul, Through Tawxiid of Allaah and the Following of the Rasuul Scw
It is written by a Xaafid bin Axmad Al xakamy who was a sucuudi scholar from the southwest region bordering yemen, he lived in the first half of the twentith century

It is a poem and it starts by ducaa to Allaah, then he talks about how Allaah created all of binaadan for worshiping him, and he splits tawxiid into two parts, and the first part is to know all of His Attributes, and the second part is to single Him out for worship, he mentions

هَذَا وَثَانِي نَوْعَيِ التَّوْحِيدِ ● إِفْرَادُ رَبِّ الْعَرْشِ عَنْ نَدِيدِ
أَنْ تَعْبُدَ اللَّهَ إِلَهًا وَاحِدَا ● مُعْتَرِفًا بِحَقِّهِ لَا جَاحِدَا

...
وَكَلَّفَ اللَّهُ الرَّسُولَ الْمُجْتَبَى ● قِتَالَ مَنْ عَنْهُ تَوَلَّى وَأَبَى
حَتَّى يَكُونَ الدِّينُ خَالِصًا لَهُ ● سِرًّا وَجَهْرًا دِقُّهُ وَجِلُّهُ
...
فَإِنَّ مَعْنَاهَا الَّذِي عَلَيْهِ ● دَلَّتْ يَقِينًا وَهَدَتْ إِلَيْهِ
أَنْ لَيْسَ بِالْحَقِّ إِلَهٌ يُعْبَدُ ● إِلَا الْإِلَهُ الْوَاحِدُ الْمُنْفَرِدُ
بِالْخَلْقِ وَالرِّزْقِ وَبِالتَّدْبِيرِ ● جَلَّ عَنِ الشَّرِيكِ وَالنَّظِيرِ

This is the second type of Tawxiid ● Singling out the Lord of the Throne from peers
[It is] that you worship Allaah as one god ● Acknowledging to his right and not denying it
...
And Allaah ordered the chosen Rasuul ● [With] fighting whoever turns away from it and refuses
Until the Diin becomes pure for Him ● Privately and in public, in its subtlety and its majesty
...
So indeed [the Shahada]'s meaning that is upon it ● [Which is] certainly evident and guides towards
[Is] that there is no deity, worshipped in truth ● Except The Single, Solitary God
Through Creation and Providence and through Management ● Exalted above Shirk and having an equal
These lines clarify what is meant by an ilah, ie one that is worshipped in truth or one that is believed to play a part in creation or providing for the people or management of the worlds. And it also says that tawxiid is that you remove all other elements from this like other gods or trinity or hierarchy or pantheon or delegation because this is all done by Allaah and thus we worship Allaah for this

Later he mentions about the definition of cibaado and what constitutes shirk

ثُمَّ الْعِبَادَةُ هِيَ اسْمٌ جَامِعُ ● لِكُلِ مَا يَرْضَى الْإِلَهُ السَّامِعُ
وَفِي الْحَدِيثِ مُخُّهَا الدُّعَاءُ ● خَوْفٌ تَوَكُّلٌ كَذَا الرَّجَاءُ
وَرَغْبَةٌ وَرَهْبَةٌ خُشُوعُ ● وَخَشْيَةٌ إِنَابَةٌ خُضُوعُ
وَالِاسْتِعَاذَةُ وَالَاسْتِعَانَهْ ● كَذَا اسْتِغَاثَةٌ بِهِ سُبْحَانَهْ
وَالذَّبْحُ وَالنَّذْرُ وَغَيْرُ ذَلِكْ ● فَافْهَمْ هُدِيتَ أَوْضَحَ الْمَسَالِكْ
وَصَرْفُ بَعْضِهَا لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ ● شِرْكٌ وَذَاكَ أَقْبَحُ الْمَنَاهِي

[So] then Cibaado is a comprehensive term ● For all that pleases the All-Hearing God
And in the Hadiith, its marrow (essence) is Ducaa ● Fear, Reliance, likewise Hope
And Longing and Awe, Humility ● And Dread, Repentance, Submission
And Seeking Refuge and Seeking Assistance ● Likewise, Seeking Dire Help with Him, Exalted be He
And Slaughtering [animals] and Vowing and others ● So understand- you will be guided to the Clearest of Roads
And directing some of that to other than Allaah ● Is Shirk, and that is the ugliest of prohibitions.​

So the point of cibaada is action that pleases Allaah, which is known via the Quraan and the Sunah, and to be directed towards Allaah Only, so what is done for the sake of Allaah should not be done for anyone else sake

There is a section that talks about shirk but i will skim over it basically it is the opposite of tawxiid, and it has greater shirk - where there is one other than Allaah that the servant takes to be comparable and hold a power that none but Allaah has - and lesser shirk, which is doing those acts to please the people rather than in sincerity to Allaah, and this includes swearing on other than Allaah. Yous should listen to the poem
 

cunug3aad

3rdchild · Ogleyow ogow
Now i shall address your points
But the shahadatayn started to gain prominence around the end of the 7th century and the start of the 8th, when "Islam" emerged as an exclusivist faith with particular emphasis on Muhammad. Not only was his name added next to God's name in the Shahada, but not recognizing his messengership was considered tantamount to disbelief, even among people who did not interact with him when he was alive.
The importance of the shahaadatayn is that you affirm what nebiga Scw brought to mankind is the truth and it distinguishes you from the mushrikiin and ahlul kitaab who also said they believed in Allaah. The Quraysh actually did believe in Allaah its just they had other gods that other tasks were supposedly delegated to but they would invoke Allaah when times got hard. But as soon as they are comfortable they turn away. You can see how they would like to pick and choose what they wanted from diin, so when it is proclaimed as in suuratul fatx
مُّحَمَّدٌ رَّسُولُ ٱللَّهِ
The idea is that to be a muslim is to follow the entirety of the prophet's message and not just pick and choose. Also the statement that muhammad is the messenger of god is in the Quraan so not recognising his messengership is not recognising that verse in the Quraan which is disbelief. I want you to be careful about that
Writing Muhammad's name alongside God's name (against his will) in mosques and calligraphies everywhere, instead of commemorating God alone (39:45, 33:41-43, 18:110, 41:6).
Calligraphy in masaajid is a thing that is just done for the sake of it ill be real, the ideal for a masjid is for it to have no decorations whatsoever and function solely as a house of worship, though most calligraphies are fine. Although i do agree sometimes it gets problematic when the name of Allaah and the name of muhammad Scw are written together without the context of the shahaadatayn
Corruption of the shahada, and joining Muhammad's name (against his will) with God's (39:45, 3:18, 47:19, 48:28-29, 2:136, 2:255, 59:22-24, 21:87, 2:136, 63:1, 18:110, 41:6).
I dont get what you mean by corruption of the shahaada, muhammad's name is not joined with Allaah and if you see the first statement is لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰهُ‎ No Deity Except Allaah; and then the second statement مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰهِ‎ Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah and alot of the time both are prefaced with "i bear witness" so i dont know how it can be misunderstood as muhammad being a second deity, then gramatically saying Rasuulullaah at the end would not make sense. Also there is no evidence of it being against his will
Calling Muhammad directly in second person singular during the Salat and in Masjids, instead of calling God alone (39:45, 72:18, 20:14)
That is haraam and if you see in the first thing i wrote the command is always "invoke Allaah", it is an innovation
Commemorating Muhammad along with God through the durood in every salat, instead of commemorating God alone (39:45, 20:14, 29:45, 6:162)
The salawaat are prayers to Allaah to send blessing and peace upon the prophet because he is the one who by tawfiiq of Allaah gave us the proper message of Islaam. Thus Allaah orders us to send salawaat upon him for his work. He is still at the end of the day mortal man as the verses you quote show so unlike with Allaah it took lots of effort and his life dedication to spread the message of Islaam so in my opinion salawaat is quite deserved
Glorifying Muhammad day and night with "salawat", distorting 33:56 and taking the passage 33:40-62 out of context (33:40-62, 18:110, 41:6).
Muhammad is not glorified rather Allaah is glorified. Only misguided sufis are glorifying muhammad
Advocating the veneration of body parts and body fluids of Muhammad and objects touched by part of his body, through the concept of Tabarruk (39:3, 18:110, 41:6, 25:55).
I literally never heard of this before this is some shiici business apparently. Yeah its shirk i dont know where you are getting these impressions from
Turning Muhammad's grave site into a second "Haraam", even though the Quran mentions only one Masjid Al Haraam (16:20-21, 35:22, 18:110, 41:6, 39:3, 25:55).
Makkah is a xaram declared by ibraahiim- the misconception you have is that the masjid is the xaram but rather it is called the masjid of the xaram, and Madiina is a xaram declared by Muhammad, not his gravesite but the whole city as he was alive to declare it. In muslim hadith
إِنَّ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَرَّمَ مَكَّةَ وَإِنِّي أُحَرِّمُ مَا بَيْنَ لاَبَتَيْهَا
Indeed ibraahiim made makkah a xaram, and indeed i make what is between [madina's] two basalts a xaram
And clarification that this indeed refers to madiina is when raafic ibin khadiij called out to marwaan ibinul xakam and said
مَا لِي أَسْمَعُكَ ذَكَرْتَ مَكَّةَ وَأَهْلَهَا وَحُرْمَتَهَا وَلَمْ تَذْكُرِ الْمَدِينَةَ وَأَهْلَهَا وَحُرْمَتَهَا وَقَدْ حَرَّمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مَا بَيْنَ لاَبَتَيْهَا وَذَلِكَ عِنْدَنَا فِي أَدِيمٍ خَوْلاَنِيٍّ إِنْ شِئْتَ أَقْرَأْتُكَهُ
What is this i hear you mentioned makkah and its people and its xaram-nimo but you didnt mention madiina and its people and its xaram-nimo, and surely Rasuulullaah has made what is between its two basalts a xaram, and that [narration] is [written] with us in Khawlaani leather- if you wish i can have it read out for you
Glorifying Muhammad against his will, elevating him as "the best of creation", singing naats and qasidahs, and making a distinction among God's messengers (18:110, 41:6, 39:3, 25:55).
He is considered the best of creation because of the muslim narration that he is the leader of all mankind, and the general view that mankind is better than angels because we have the choice to do good as well as do bad so our good actions carry more weight. I wrote about that somewhere but i cant find it
The listenning to poems and anashids as substitute to music in the modern day is kind of interesting because it leads to a situation wherein muslims will be basically listening to music to try to be more pious. Apparently maher zain the ya nabi salam caleyk guy does concerts :snoop:imagine suddenly realising in the middle of a nashiid concert that your doing it all wrong
 

cunug3aad

3rdchild · Ogleyow ogow
Accusing Muhammad of fabricating a parallel religion that have nothing in common with the religion that he taught through the Quran, with silly rules and practices like rules for urination and defecation, drinking camel urine, banning of music, art, kites, chess, mohawks, gold and silk for men, banning menstruating women from praying, fasting, entering masjids, touching mushafs and many misogynistic rules oppressing women, advocating killing blasphemers and apostates, stoning adulterers, offensive warfare and the capture and rape of war captives (69:44-46, 6:19, 39:23, 45:6, 77:50, 7:185, 31:6, 6:112-116).
Ok now this is just hadiith denial come on. How are you going to follow the prophet if you dont know what he done

Without rules for urination and defecation people walk around with crusty dabo thinking they are following purification guideline. Eeg the entire western world

Music distracts from quran and the remembrance and worship of Allaah, instead of filling your mind with remembering Allaah it will be filled with music and you forget obligations, it is a deceiving pleasure that hardens the heart against Quraan which is an authentic and beneficial pleasure. Think doomscrolling vs relaxing in nature and nabad and after completing tasks, doomscrolling is stronger but the nabad is more authentic and feels better. In the case of music, Quraan actually has benefits in the aakhiro

If you make art some dude is going to worship it and now you became a taağuut. Eeg those art enthusiasts who revere classical pieces and the manga / anime fans who will worship some character. Waa cibaado ciyaar ma aha

Kites and chess and other ciyaar come under criteria, that they dont distract from cibaado or other obligatory task, that you are not being extravagant or showing off, and that there is no haraam like betting or other. For kite just dont fly like one that made to look like a bird

Mohawk comes under other haircuts the prophet said cut it all or leave it all. Like the beard the primary motivation is to not mimick disbelievers. Also maxaa ka galay mohawk are you ok

In most of history menstruation was a massive issue to deal with and people could only deal with blood flow with rags and stuff that have a very high failure rate, and only nowadays is it somewhat manageable with pads and stuff. So women are absolved from having to do most cibaado as they require purification. If it was mysogynistic women would get sin for not performing these actions. They literally have less obligation than men in this case

Killing of apostates comes for publicly announcing your apostacy, and it s done because just letting them free they are going to mislead random people who dont know any better. If they dont want to mislead other people they would not announce their apostacy. Free speech is a false ideal anyway

Adulterers are scum of earth they should be stoned. Why should they be let free for ruining families

Capturing prisoners of war is a circumstance that arises because countries go to war. If you were to let them free then they can very likely just come back to endanger you again, and killing them all is an option in war but is not the best option because its best to avoid killing unless treachery or something. Thus captives are a middle ground until opposing force are no longer a danger. Warfare itself is a consequence of human nature and it is wishful thinking at best to just prohibit all warfare and think that humanity will live happily ever after. Eeg christians, they went to war regardless and because they had no guidelines about how to conduct themselfs they go about it in brutal matters. Thus minimal damage is to provide guidelines for warfare and prohibitions
It's almost as though Islam has been Extremely Distorted and Stripped from its Very Function which Submission and Exclusive Subscription to the Ultimate Authority of Allah but how can one perfectly practise this when they worship a Man who is Flesh and Blood like them.
The whole point of man who is flesh and blood like you is that you can follow his every action as a guide to worship Allaah. If he was an angel 1 they would not be able to follow his every actions as angels will never disobey Allaah 2 if they disobeyed in such an obvious and undeniable sign of Allaah they would be destroyed immediately for their arrogance
وَقَالُوا۟ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ عَلَيْهِ مَلَكٌۭ ۖ وَلَوْ أَنزَلْنَا مَلَكًۭا لَّقُضِىَ ٱلْأَمْرُ ثُمَّ لَا يُنظَرُونَ
And they say: Why did he not send an angel down with him? and if We sent an angel down the matter would be settled [at once]- then they will have no respite
And he is not worshipped as i have clarified earlier

In conclusion I think you are probably confusing majority of muslims with some misguided sufis
 

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