World Bank approves first loans ($80m) to Somalia in 30 years

[GBTarmy]

The problem is that too many Somalis south of Galkacyo are still clinging on to the hope of a centralized state. You would think that 27 years of anarchy would disabuse them of having such imaginings, but no.

There will be no political progress in Somalia until southerners realize that Mogadishu will not run the internal political/economic affairs of federal states. This is why the Kheyre/Farmaajo administration will not make any headway. Centralization as an idea has to be given up.

You're on point, southerners like to shrug all their problems on federalism and how we should opt for centralism(because that will apprently fix the south)while ignoring why we are in this situation in the first place.

We know these people are incompetent when it comes to politics which is why I would have hoped the IC to propose this idea, forcing a government in Mogadishu wont work.

 

[GBTarmy]

southern somalis blaming the souths political failure on federalism and Puntland

 

[embarassing]

southern somalis blaming the souths political failure on federalism and Puntland View attachment 55388

literally no one does...?

 

[GBTarmy]

literally no one does...?

trust me a lot of ppl do, they blame federalism for everything and preach how centralized government would be much better and thats how Puntland gets the blame for pushing (clan) federalism down everyone's throat.

 

[nine]

southern somalis blaming the souths political failure on federalism and Puntland View attachment 55388

Clan federalism can work in homogeneous places. Not multi clan place all the time. Imagine if Nugaal was Isaaq and they made up a sigmificant population in Bosaso. Would PL be the same?
Ceelbuur = Murursade C/waaq = Marehan Cadaado = Saleebaan Guriceel and Fart Town = Cayr
Every Puntites skips this or skips the fact that they already mentioned their PL leadership rotates between 3 major sub clans. Other clans do not have such a hierarchy
@embarassing

 

[Abdalla]

I only see the clan members of the PM or the President having hope. That says a lot

 

[AarLibaax]

I don't understand, why would I be bitter? I just find it sad that projects like Bosaso airport, Garowe airport, renovation of Bosaso port, etc... are unlikely to happen in the future as the FGS gains more authority over funding channels. Puntland will no longer be able to get the funding it needs for such projects, meaning that it will have to raise all of it from taxes. Development in Puntland will slow down significantly as the FGS tightens its grip over foreign affairs. I am just stating the most likely outcome.

What you did is state your filthy qabyaalad, didnt knw u puntites where this pathetic

FGS will rightfully tighten its grip
#dealwithit

 

[CangeeroBear]

A lot of people jealous lol.

 

[Abdalla]

Clan federalism can work in homogeneous places. Not multi clan place all the time. Imagine if Nugaal was Isaaq and they made up a sigmificant population in Bosaso. Would PL be the same?
Ceelbuur = Murursade C/waaq = Marehan Cadaado = Saleebaan Guriceel and Fart Town = Cayr
Every Puntites skips this or skips the fact that they already mentioned their PL leadership rotates between 3 major sub clans. Other clans do not have such a hierarchy
@embarassing

All praises to Allah the almighty who gave us unity and cohesion. As @Ferrari once suggested, perhaps MJs should give a masterclass in how to avoid internal clashes. The trick is to change leadership every 5-6 years. Let beesha be led by a new face, Somalis have an extremely short expiration date. Count how many leaders mjs had in the last decade or so. AY, Cadde, faroole, CCC and now Gaas. In 2019 a new face will emerge, we will all change our dp. We will accept the outcome. While you guys keep on showing the same faces, the same personalities

 

[Cabdi]

A lot of people jealous lol.

Shut up n1gger

 

[AarLibaax]

A lot of people jealous lol.

It's all over their posts
The bitterness is unreal, im luvin it

 

[nine]

All praises to Allah the almighty who gave us unity and cohesion. As @Ferrari once suggested, perhaps MJs should give a masterclass in how to avoid internal clashes. The trick is to change leadership every 5-6 years. Let beesha be led by a new face, Somalis have an extremely short expiration date. Count how many leaders mjs had in the last decade or so. AY, Cadde, faroole, CCC and now Gaas. In 2019 a new face will emerge, we will all change our dp. We will accept the outcome. While you guys keep on showing the same faces, the same personalities

Also our towns are inhabited by different sub clans. @Ferrari would be lying if he said OGs are united he himself said Cawliyahan are less onboard with JL.

Maxamud Saleban hegemony =/= unity and cohesion
Your own tol mentioned that leadership rotates between 3 sub clans.

The south is a totally different than PL.

 

[Abdalla]

Also our towns are inhabited by different sub clans. @Ferrari would be lying if he said OGs are united he himself said Cawliyahan are less onboard with JL.

Maxamud Saleban hegemony =/= unity and cohesion
Your own tol mentioned that leadership rotates between 3 sub clans.

The south is a totally different than PL.

The MS gets the political leadership, Cali Saleebaan has the economy on a tight leash, and the Reer Bicidyahan will be given the religious sector. We sent @KULTA to Medina, he's memorising juzz Camma as we speak.

Caabudwaaq has a green line, where the tanks of Celi and Reer Dalal can pop off any time. We are aware of the the inter reer diini tensions as well between rest dalal and reer siyaad. Don't make me air your dirty laundry. Before thinking of creating a federal state, work on your own internal issues and unite Cabudwaaq where the orphans of Celi are men now and sharpening their teeth.

 

[nine]

The MS gets the political leadership, Cali Saleebaan has the economy on a tight leash, and the Reer Bicidyahan will be given the religious sector. We sent @KULTA to Medina, he's memorising juzz Camma as we speak.

Caabudwaaq has a green line, where the tanks of Celi and Reer Dalal can pop off any time. We are aware of the the inter reer diini tensions as well between rest dalal and reer siyaad. Don't make me air your dirty laundry. Before thinking of creating a federal state, work on your own internal issues and unite Cabudwaaq where the orphans of Celi are men now and sharpening their teeth.

So Marehan should join Blackie in JL but now you saying Reer Diini internal beefs should be settled in that case Aw Qashin is bad he should go to C/Waaq.

And as for intra Reer Diini tensions that is political leadership and bad apples who become leaders like Taano vs Hiiraale. Clashes happen between sub clans but you're over exaggarating.

Our sub clans in Somalia are generally interwined (a bit different to other major Jaberti clans) apart from Doolow and Ceel Cadde and Ceel Waaq.

Also you completely ignore the fact you are a clan who lives mostly on one big chunk of land. We are seperated and border different clans than yours. That changes the dynamics

Different sub clans border different sub clans. Reer Diini borders Cayr and Wagardhac borders Saleebaan. Other sub clans border Makaahiil and others border Cawliyahan. Reer Xasan border Oromos

Apples and oranges

 

[Abdalla]

So Marehan should join Blackie in JL but now you saying Reer Diini internal beefs should be settled in that case Aw Qashin is bad he should go to C/Waaq.

WTF are you on about?

So Marehan should join Blackie in JL but now you saying Reer Diini internal beefs should be settled in that case Aw Qashin is bad he should go to C/Waaq.

And as for intra Reer Diini tensions that is political leadership and bad apples who become leaders like Taano vs Hiiraale. Clashes happen between sub clans but you're over exaggarating.

Our sub clans in Somalia are generally interwined (a bit different to other major Jaberti clans) apart from Doolow and Ceel Cadde and Ceel Waaq.

Also you completely ignore the fact you are a clan who lives mostly on one big chunk of land. We are seperated and border different clans than yours. That changes the dynamics

Different sub clans border different sub clans. Reer Diini borders Cayr and Wagardhac borders Saleebaan. Other sub clans border Makaahiil and others border Cawliyahan. Reer Xasan border Oromos

Apples and oranges

I said forget creating a state with other clans, a small all inclusive Marehan village like Caabudwaaq has a green line. No need to mention how dispersed your clan is when your villages have green lines. Forget about gedo where you have ostracised and made an entire Marehan subclan midgaans.

Don't make me spill the beans what youve done to each other in gedo in the 1990s

Keep on blaming outsiders for your underperformance. We border Saleebaan and shit kulaha foh

 

[nine]

WTF are you on about?





I said forget creating a state with other clans, a small all inclusive Marehan village like Caabudwaaq has a green line. No need to mention how dispersed your clan is when your villages have green lines. Forget about gedo where you have ostracised and made an entire Marehan subclan *******s.

Don't make me spill the beans what youve done to each other in gedo in the 1990s

Keep on blaming outsiders for your underperformance. We border Saleebaan and shit kulaha foh

We are not blaming outsiders. Do you really think Reer Xasan who border Oromos have the same political mindset Talxa who border Cawliyahan and MZ? Both these sub clans have different mindsets. One is looking at Kismayo and the other probably isn't.

We had internal feuds in Gedo I'm not denying that.
You're talking about a few clashes inC/waaq that were sorted before.

foh if you think Reer Xasan from Nageyle and Reer Dalal from C/Waaq ould have the same political mindset

 

[Abdalla]

We are not blaming outsiders. Do you really think Reer Xasan who border Oromos have the same political mindset Talxa who border Cawliyahan and MZ? Both these sub clans have different mindsets. One is looking at Kismayo and the other probably isn't.

We had internal feuds in Gedo I'm not denying that.
You're talking about a few clashes inC/waaq that were sorted before.

foh if you think Reer Xasan from Nagehle and Reer Dalal from C/Waaq ould have the same political mindset

Are your deliberately unwilling to understand. Celi from across the Masjid in caabudwaaq and the reer diini behind ghe masjid in the same caabudwaaq don't see eye to eye and you're talking about oromos and shit. You lack cohesion at the community level, which is the lowest level.

 

[nine]

Are your deliberately unwilling to understand. Celi from across the Masjid in caabudwaaq and the reer diini behind ghe masjid in the same caabudwaaq don't see eye to eye and you're talking about oromos and shit. You lack cohesion at the community level, which is the lowest level.

You talking about a few killings in C/Waaq that were sorted

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

What you did is state your filthy qabyaalad, didnt knw u puntites where this pathetic

FGS will rightfully tighten its grip
#dealwithit

I am a qabilist because I actually care about my people. My qabyaalad is not irrational, like that of most Somalis, but is a tool for the social cohesion necessary for development.

Walahi I would not be bitter if Farmaajo was corrupt enough to funnel that money into irrigation & road projects in Jubaland. I would be totally fine with Puntland losing out on aid if it meant that Gedo was finally getting some infrastructure. The sad thing is that he is a victim of “Xamar Syndrome” like most Marehan politicians, and none of that money is ever leaving Xamar. Kheyre and his boys will however make bank, and Farmaajo will be gone in 2 years. Marehan will blame other Daroods for not supporting him, but as always will not ask him why Gedo has no roads after 60 years of independence.

You will come to realize this when feb 2021 rolls around and Luuq’s only bridge has not been repaired, although the FGS recived hundreds of millions in aid. Rinse & repeat.

 

[AarLibaax]

I am a qabilist

The only truth in your otherwise bullsh*t post.