Why Somalis are the most successful African business entrepreneurs

[Sophisticate]

Thanks for the elaborate explanation. You really know a lot about this particular and general subject. To my very limited knowledge, and as the guy told me, it was stress-related and the context of his life at that time really reaffirms this. I think alopecia areata, to some degree, can be triggered by stress, among other things I have no clue about. Well, he regrew everything, so it's all good. Comedy in hindsight, right?

I'm a bit of a weirdo. I generally gravitate to the subject of health and I used to be deep in various health communities (even fringe ones as they tend to be lots of fun) so it exposed me to people with different conditions. And I would read about their anecdotal experiences.

I just wanted to make a distinction between stressed-based hair shedding that thins out hair and patchy based autoimmune hair loss. Psychosocial stress is certainly a factor in Alopecia Areata. Oddly, my classmate in Grad School got it and she was a lifter (beacon of health in some people's eyes). She told me it weirdly happened after trying to do CrossFit. Perhaps the physical stress of extreme exercise was the straw that broke the camel's back. Or maybe her thyroid hormones were messed up from that. Women are more prone to autoimmunity in general (blame hormonal fluctuations and pregnancy). She went to a naturopath and seems fine now.

It can disappear (like in the case of your friend) and never abate or re-emerge. I guess its case-by-case. Autoimmune conditions are confusing. I even found out I have a high genetic susceptibility to Celiac (gluten intolerance). How common is Celiac among Somalis? I only met one with the condition so far. One thing is for sure we're getting odd afflictions from a highly industrialized lifestyle we may never have had despite having genetic susceptibilities.

Genetic predisposition could in theory occur for generations without any noticeable impact to health until an individual is exposed to unfavourable environmental toxins that may trigger it. Not to mention we live in more sterile environments, are exposed to an aggregate of chemicals and our gut microbiome has less diverse bacteria than say Hunter gatherers like the Hadza of Tanzania. I came across the below abstract from this article:

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms4654.pdf

 

[El Nino]

The problem in our country and people is that everyone wants to be an business owner. Nothing wrong with that, but then we look down on xamaali, skilled trades and other manual jobs.

In order for our country to progress we need to break that stigma or either force large parts of the population to do those jobs ( beesha madow and madhibaans are not enough ). Business ownership should be an priviledge

 

[The alchemist]

I'm a bit of a weirdo. I generally gravitate to the subject of health and I used to be deep in various health communities (even fringe ones as they tend to be lots of fun) so it exposed me to people with different conditions. And I would read about their anecdotal experiences.

I just wanted to make a distinction between stressed-based hair shedding that thins out hair and patchy based autoimmune hair loss. Psychosocial stress is certainly a factor in Alopecia Areata. Oddly, my classmate in Grad School got it and she was a lifter (beacon of health in some people's eyes). She told me it weirdly happened after trying to do CrossFit. Perhaps the physical stress of extreme exercise was the straw that broke the camel's back. Or maybe her thyroid hormones were messed up from that. Women are more prone to autoimmunity in general (blame hormonal fluctuations and pregnancy). She went to a naturopath and seems fine now.

It can disappear (like in the case of your friend) and never abate or re-emerge. I guess its case-by-case. Autoimmune conditions are confusing. I even found out I have a high genetic susceptibility to Celiac (gluten intolerance). How common is Celiac among Somalis? I only met one with the condition so far. One thing is for sure we're getting odd afflictions from a highly industrialized lifestyle we may never have had despite having genetic susceptibilities.

Genetic predisposition could in theory occur for generations without any noticeable impact to health until an individual is exposed to unfavourable environmental toxins that may trigger it. Not to mention we live in more sterile environments, are exposed to an aggregate of chemicals and our gut microbiome has less diverse bacteria than say Hunter gatherers like the Hadza of Tanzania. I came across the below abstract from this article:

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https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms4654.pdf

It's a good thing to be enthusiastic about learning about human health, nutrition, that type of domain of knowledge because it can improve quality of life. I'm very ignorant generally for most of it if I'm being honest.

I have never considered the gluten intolerance problem for Somalis specifically, only encountered Whites, as they are the majority here. Will certainly delve further into this topic when I give time for it.

Thanks for posting that article. I was surprised by the amount of fiber those hunter-gatherers consumed, about 70% of their dietary consumption was plant-based.

 

[Woke1.4rm.Shibis]

Thanks for this very informative video.

Somalia could be one of Africa's wealthiest Nations due to its diversity , coastline, self-esteem and entrepreneurship.

I fixed it for you , everything else is spot on

 

[Nilotic]

I fixed it for you , everything else is spot on

How is it diverse?


With the exception of a very small minority of Benadirs and Bantus, Somalia is an extremely homogeneous Nation; ethnic Somalis constitute almost 90% of the Nation's population; Islam has an adherence rate of almost 100%; and Af-Somali is virtually the only language spoken in the Country.

 

[Leeban]

We’re the future inshallah

Those who believe will take part, those who don’t may or may not

 

[Afro Asiatic]

Somalis are a very industrious people, especially pre-civil war. Western reer qurbo are an odd sub-breed with the criminality and welfarism but even there you find standouts and somehow these saxiibs and saxiibtis still manage to produce mayors, congresswomen and whatever else.

What family members of mine who were prominent in pre-civil war Xamar tell me is always staggering. It was a very well managed and run place for a time. There were surprisingly forward thinking policies like the local government making everyone plant a tree on their property and fining them if it dried up and died due to under-watering and forbidding buildings over about 6 storeys so as to keep a more historical town look like in Europe.

But alas, we are now overrun by mooryans and their mentalities. I think one huge issue that occurred with the civil war era is that the divide between urbanites (reer magaal) and ruralites (reer miyi/baadiyo) broke down. Historically there was a clear cultural division between the two and real tradition, custom and education to being an urbanite with ruralites who made the shift pre-civil war being eased into the experience, educated and integrated well overtime. Likewise, there was a certain dignity, respect and culture in the rural way as a contrast to the urban way. But with the civil war era this just broke down completely and you have saxiibs who were in tents last year suddenly settling in cities with no real transition. Not to mention the sheer number of intellectuals and refined urbanites who ran off to countries abroad like the Khaleej, across Africa and Asia or even the west in some cases, leaving nothing to balance out the tent boys. The result is often savagery and madness.

But they hate each other with passion due to qabiil disease and addiction. Some have even tried to create a fake paper state based on sheer hatred and hardcore clannism

Somalis are a very industrious people, especially pre-civil war. Western reer qurbo are an odd sub-breed with the criminality and welfarism but even there you find standouts and somehow these saxiibs and saxiibtis still manage to produce mayors, congresswomen and whatever else.

What family members of mine who were prominent in pre-civil war Xamar tell me is always staggering. It was a very well managed and run place for a time. There were surprisingly forward thinking policies like the local government making everyone plant a tree on their property and fining them if it dried up and died due to under-watering and forbidding buildings over about 6 storeys so as to keep a more historical town look like in Europe.

But alas, we are now overrun by mooryans and their mentalities. I think one huge issue that occurred with the civil war era is that the divide between urbanites (reer magaal) and ruralites (reer miyi/baadiyo) broke down. Historically there was a clear cultural division between the two and real tradition, custom and education to being an urbanite with ruralites who made the shift pre-civil war being eased into the experience, educated and integrated well overtime. Likewise, there was a certain dignity, respect and culture in the rural way as a contrast to the urban way. But with the civil war era this just broke down completely and you have saxiibs who were in tents last year suddenly settling in cities with no real transition. Not to mention the sheer number of intellectuals and refined urbanites who ran off to countries abroad like the Khaleej, across Africa and Asia or even the west in some cases, leaving nothing to balance out the tent boys. The result is often savagery and madness.

Somalis will always hate each other due to qabiil addiction and disease. Some have even resorted to creating fake paper state based on a foundation of hatred and fervent clannism.

 

[Sophisticate]

It's a good thing to be enthusiastic about learning about human health, nutrition, that type of domain of knowledge because it can improve quality of life. I'm very ignorant generally for most of it if I'm being honest.

I have never considered the gluten intolerance problem for Somalis specifically, only encountered Whites, as they are the majority here. Will certainly delve further into this topic when I give time for it.

Thanks for posting that article. I was surprised by the amount of fiber those hunter-gatherers consumed, about 70% of their dietary consumption was plant-based.

I certainly agree.

I have a close relative with the same predisposition for celiac and I've anecdotally heard of a rise of it among Somalis in Australia. No studies thus far. Africans are generally understudied and Somalis even more so.

I figured you might find the article interesting. Sadly, these purely hunter gatherer Hadza are dying out. It's amazing right. I envy their microbial diversity. The further away one is from a western diet the greater the variety of microbes colonizing their gut. It appears a western diet is stifling our gut microbiome and contributing to microbial-die-off. In part from farming practices such as monocropping, heavy pesticide use and over farming that reduces the quality of the soil and the diversity of micro-organisms found in it. Also, though there may be an abundance of available foods (here) there are but a few crops actively consumed. Having limited microbial diversity isn’t a permanent state but likely just depends on what one consumes. So, I guess westerners aren’t forever doomed. Perhaps we need more fiber and less processed and refined sugars. Though I'm sure there are people who might have a tough time actually digesting fiber as they may lack the digestive power, are dehydrated, have pre-existing gut issues or certain nutritional deficiencies.

 

[Woke1.4rm.Shibis]

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How is it diverse?


With the exception of a very small minority of Benadirs and Bantus, Somalia is an extremely homogeneous Nation; ethnic Somalis constitute almost 90% of the Nation's population; Islam has an adherence rate of almost 100%; and Af-Somali is virtually the only language spoken in the Country.

There is an ethnic samaale but there isnt an ethnic somalis dont belive what you read on wikipedia . af maxa is the official language but we have many languages and dialects plz respect somalias diversity .