Why Somali nationalism is Haram

[Al Adnani]

A big issue in the diaspora that leads to deviancy, freemixing and kufr is nationalism. Nationalism is the cause of the downfall of Somalia, as in 1977 we invaded Ethiopia for an ethno-nationalist cause instead of an Islamic cause and we have since suffered from its consequences. Promotion of Somali music, the flying of Somalia flags and discriminating against non Somali muslims is all jahiliyah and one of the reasons Somalis today are so backwards in the diaspora. So many self proclaimed Somali nationalists on the internet are kuffar who promote the abandonment of Islam for waaqism and other pre Islamic pagan practices. The extreme promotion of the Somali identity often leads diaspora kids to believe the post 91 Islamic enlightenment in Somalia is fitnah, wishing we return to our former ways of sufism which often included lots of bid'ah. It is a very slippery slope.

Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullaah said: "Everything which is outside the call of Islaam and the Qur'aan, with regards to lineage, land, nationality, schools of thoughts and ways, then it is from the calls of jaahiliyyah. Indeed, even when the Muhaajirs (those Companions who migrated from Makkah to Madeenah) and the Ansaars (those Companions who aided and supported those who migrated) argued, such that one of the Muhaajirs said:" O Muhaajirs! (implying; rally to my aid) " And one of the Ansaar said: "O Ansaar!" Upon hearing this, the Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam said: "Is it with the calls of Jaahiliyyah that you call, and l am still amongst you!" And he became very angry at that."

We must be careful in the promotion of Somalism as a lot of deviancy comes with it.

 

[Al Adnani]

If I've made any mistake feel free to correct me I post this for the sake of Allah and if I accidentally posted something misleading I apologize sincerely may Allah guide us all

 

[Khaem]

Somalism and Islam is the right way.
Arabs can stay across the red sea along with your arabism bullshit.

 

[Khaem]

Somalism and Islam is the right way.
Arabs can stay across the red sea along with your arabism bullshit.

You probably vibe to Arabic music sang by a woman in Egypt and wave Arab flags like Saudi but damn the Somali for having any pride in his identity.

 

[Lahaine]

Nationalism helps the Country's morale when it's in a difficult situation it's what somalia need now more than ever.

 

[Avalanche]

Lol, go to Saudi and say to their face that there are no nations and that it is a united Ummah and you have the right as any other Saudi citizen. They will laugh in your face and expel you from the country. Today we are divided into nations and we can't preach something no one follows because then we will be exploited.

 

[hinters]

Salafis ruined Somalia. Clannism ruined Somalia. Nationalism is the least of our issues.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Preach this to the arabs somalis are one of the most religious groups in the world.

We are proud of our deen and adheer to it strongly thats why we always boast about how we are 99% muslim

 

[Al Adnani]

Lol, go to Saudi and say to their face that there are no nations and that it is a united Ummah and you have the right as any other Saudi citizen. They will laugh in your face and expel you from the country. Today we are divided into nations and we can't preach something no one follows because then we will be exploited.

Saudi is a completely different story. This is about Somalia

 

[Khaem]

Saudi is a completely different story. This is about Somalia

So arabs get a free pass but somalis must bend over to throwing away national pride. And of course bullshiting using Islam as justification.

Just another attempt at colonialism. As western bastards use Islamic extremism in somalia as an excuse to try americanise us. Arabists like you use so called "degeneracy" and use Islam as an excuse to Arabise us.

 

[Basra]

A big issue in the diaspora that leads to deviancy, freemixing and kufr is nationalism. Nationalism is the cause of the downfall of Somalia, as in 1977 we invaded Ethiopia for an ethno-nationalist cause instead of an Islamic cause and we have since suffered from its consequences. Promotion of Somali music, the flying of Somalia flags and discriminating against non Somali muslims is all jahiliyah and one of the reasons Somalis today are so backwards in the diaspora. So many self proclaimed Somali nationalists on the internet are kuffar who promote the abandonment of Islam for waaqism and other pre Islamic pagan practices. The extreme promotion of the Somali identity often leads diaspora kids to believe the post 91 Islamic enlightenment in Somalia is fitnah, wishing we return to our former ways of sufism which often included lots of bid'ah. It is a very slippery slope.

Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullaah said: "Everything which is outside the call of Islaam and the Qur'aan, with regards to lineage, land, nationality, schools of thoughts and ways, then it is from the calls of jaahiliyyah. Indeed, even when the Muhaajirs (those Companions who migrated from Makkah to Madeenah) and the Ansaars (those Companions who aided and supported those who migrated) argued, such that one of the Muhaajirs said:" O Muhaajirs! (implying; rally to my aid) " And one of the Ansaar said: "O Ansaar!" Upon hearing this, the Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam said: "Is it with the calls of Jaahiliyyah that you call, and l am still amongst you!" And he became very angry at that."

We must be careful in the promotion of Somalism as a lot of deviancy comes with it.

Absolutely Agree. Somalia will be successful if they become who they really as as a soul. Religious and Conservatives.

 

[Internet Nomad]

So arabs get a free pass but somalis must bend over to throwing away national pride

Bro is the somali version of Juden Peterstein

 

[Al Adnani]

So arabs get a free pass but somalis must bend over to throwing away national pride

Saudi is the heart of the ummah and the land of tawheed it's also one of the only if not the only muslim country in the world and their law is by sharia. Somalia on the other hand is ruled by semi democratic tribalism and our leaders promote bid'ah such as mawalid and other forms of sufism. The two cannot be compared

 

[DubatDiaries]

To call 90s Somalia “post 91 Islamic enlightenment” is an insult to Islam

 

[Internet Nomad]

Saudi is the heart of the ummah and the land of tawheed it's also one of the only if not the only muslim country in the world and their law is by sharia. Somalia on the other hand is ruled by semi democratic tribalism and our leaders promote bid'ah such as mawalid and other forms of sufism. The two cannot be compared

There needs to be a version that say’s don’t get your deen from saudi.

 

[Khaem]

Saudi is the heart of the ummah and the land of tawheed it's also one of the only if not the only muslim countrin the world and their law is by sharia. Somalia on the other hand is ruled by semi democratic tribalism and our leaders promote bid'ah such as mawalid and other forms of sufism. The two cannot be compared

Saudi is a western puppet state.

Osama bin laden was right when he said that the Arabian peninsular hadn't been stepped foot on by a non Muslim army in 1400 years but guess who invited hundreds of thousands of Kaffir Americans who drank alcohol and partied to their country to kill Iraqis in Kuwait? Saudis?

Don't get me started on dubai, one of most degenerate place you'll ever see on this dunya. How many Gulf Arab prince's have died by overdose?

If you call sharia being an American lap dog feeding big daddy oil then you need to re evaluate your understanding of Islam

 

[Al Adnani]

To call 90s Somalia “post 91 Islamic enlightenment” is an insult to Islam

I am referring to the rise of Salafiyyah in Somali lands, possibly the greatest thing to ever happen to us.

 

[Khaem]

Westerners call us "Too extremist"
Al shabab and Co. Calls us "too degenerate"

Which is it?

 

[Internet Nomad]

Salafis ruined Somalia. Clannism ruined Somalia. Nationalism is the least of our issues.

When you say this I’m pretty sure you don’t understand what salafism is. Salafism is just follow the first three generations of muslim like the prophet Muhammad said.

Don’t get extremism mixed with salafism.

 

[Al Adnani]

Saudi is a western puppet state.

Osama bin laden was right when he said that the Arabian peninsular hadn't been stepped foot on by a non Muslim army in 1400 years but guess who invited hundreds of thousands of Kaffir Americans who drank alcohol and partied to their country to kill Iraqis in Kuwait? Saudis?

Don't get me started on dubai, one of most degenerate place you'll ever see on this dunya. How many Gulf Arab prince's have died by overdose?

If you call sharia being an American lap dog feeding big daddy oil then you need to re evaluate your understanding of Islam

You are allowing your emotions to get the best of you my dear brother the fatwa by ibn baz allowing foreign involvement in the kuwait war is controversial of course and not a representation of Saudi in its entirety at all. This is the same country that brought back Quran and Sunnah after centuries of deviant sufi Ottoman rule. Saudi is possibly the greatest Islamic state since the Ummayads you cannot compare it to Somalia