Why Socrates hated democracy

This really makes you think of the fact that the military doesn’t allow people with an IQ below 83 join meaning they can’t do basic tasks like holding a gun or clean. A big chunk of the population has an IQ in that range yet they can vote that’s really scary
 
We got something akin to his republic. You really think your votes matter when duopolies pick the candidates?
Your vote matters in states where it’s a toss-up when you vote for a candidate his chosen electors pick him each canidate has electors chosen for them in every state and they 99.99 percent vote for the guy who picked him
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
Your vote matters in states where it’s a toss-up when you vote for a candidate his chosen electors pick him each canidate has electors chosen for them in every state and they 99.99 percent vote for the guy who picked him

Guess you haven't been watching US elections for the past 100 years.

Only the establishment candidates get to run initially and they have their own agenda.

Socrates would've praised this system.
 
Guess you haven't been watching US elections for the past 100 years.

Only the establishment candidates get to run initially and they have their own agenda.

Socrates would've praised this system.

Look at these numbers and ask yourself why Americans don't have single payer health yet when it is overwhelmingly popular.

A huge factor of the problems we have in society is not having a direct democracy. The people know what they want. Direct democracy means more resources and money allocated to the masses, which leads to better education, which ultimately results in a stronger democracy. The only people a direct democracy is bad for on all counts is the elite (aka rich people).
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP

Look at these numbers and ask yourself why Americans don't have single payer health yet when it is overwhelmingly popular.

A huge factor of the problems we have in society is not having a direct democracy. The people know what they want. Direct democracy means more resources and money allocated to the masses, which leads to better education, which ultimately results in a stronger democracy. The only people a direct democracy is bad for on all counts is the elite (aka rich people).

Direct democracy isn't the paradise you think it is.

The elites will always rule regardless.

If they can't pick the candidates, they'll brainwash the populace with hate or fear and get their way.

If the majority wants something that's against their interest, they'll convolute the bureaucracy so much that programs like Medicare will crash under their own weight.

If that doesn't work, they'll muddy the water so much through manufactured consent that no one would know what's what and nothing gets done.

If all fails they'll support a mob that will threaten anyone who stands in their way and everyone with influence will start self censoring.

So many ways the elites could finnese the sheep.

Just look at Twitter today.

Just give up and let them rule.


If it wasn't for the order they provided we'd still be killing each other with spears.
 
Direct democracy isn't the paradise you think it is.

The elites will always rule regardless.

If they can't pick the candidates, they'll brainwash the populace with hate or fear and get their way.

If the majority wants something that's against their interest, they'll convolute the bureaucracy so much that programs like Medicare will crash under their own weight.

If that doesn't work, they'll muddy the water so much through manufactured consent that no one would know what's what and nothing gets done.

If all fails they'll support a mob that will threaten anyone who stands in their way and everyone with influence will start self censoring.

So many ways the elites could finnese the sheep.

Just look at Twitter today.

Just give up and let them rule.


If it wasn't for the order they provided we'd still be killing each other with spears.
- The elites will always rule regardless.
Says who? You? I want to know where you found this eternal truth.
- If they can't pick the candidates, they'll brainwash the populace with hate or fear and get their way.
You can't blame direct democracy for something that's already happening in a republic. Besides, it's not easy to manipulate people when their material needs are being met. But polls show most people don't trust the media. If it was up to us, we'd be keeping them accountable for the lies they sell us.
- Medicare will crash under their own weight.
Universal health care has already been proven to work and is working in several western countries.
- If all fails they'll support a mob that will threaten anyone who stands in their way and everyone with influence will start self censoring.
- Just look at Twitter
Twitter is not real life. Most people are not woke.

>If it wasn't for the order they provided we'd still be killing each other with spears.
????????
 

BobSmoke

Yaah?
This really makes you think of the fact that the military doesn’t allow people with an IQ below 83 join meaning they can’t do basic tasks like holding a gun or clean. A big chunk of the population has an IQ in that range yet they can vote that’s really scary


Democracy been flawed due to dumb mfs can vote and the one eyed leader who leads the dumb mfs
 

Abaq

Shalom
Socrates was a smart man and he was right. You can't place the destiny of millions in the hands of the lowly riff-raff and the unwashed hordes. There's a reason why in Islam the leader is chosen by the erudite scholars, leaders of the clans and rulers as they are the most experienced and capable people to choose a suitable ruler.
 

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