Why many Somalis leave Islam

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Gojo Satoru

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I don't think there's many open ex Muslims as admitting that is practically social suicide in the Somali community. What's more likely is closeted non believers
 
I'm a gaal, been one for a while now. There is no big conspiracy regarding apostasy, nor are gaalo proselytising people in large droves through illicit literature. It's simply an effect of freedom of thought, people rarely examine the beliefs that they hold. This even moreso dispayed in religion, Islam for example has severe consequences for questioning the deen, all kinds of painful scenarios are given in detail for non believers as you guys are aware
 
Doesnโ€™t this goes against human rights?

To arrest people if they choose not to believe?

Surly you gotta disagree on that. Thereโ€™s no way you can get arrested if you disbelieve in the religion.
Murtads get slaughtered, not just arrested
If a Muslim apostatizes and meets the conditions of apostasy โ€“ i.e., he is of sound mind, an adult and does that of his own free will โ€“ then his blood may be shed with impunity. He is to be executed by the Muslim ruler or by his deputy โ€“ such as the judge, and he is not to be washed (after death, in preparation for burial), the funeral prayer is not to be offered for him and he is not to be buried with the Muslims.
Source: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20327/apostasy-in-islam
 
i mean, thats more culture, your allowed to question deen, thats the entire religion
I was ruminating over some of the critiques I have over Islam and it was due to some inconsistencies regarding shariah. If property is absolute and protected so much so that repeat thieves get their hands chopped after a court agreement, why is slavery - the act of stealing a whole person's time and human labour permissable after conquest? Rulings are convoluted in a lot of ways at least for me.
 
I was ruminating over some of the critiques I have over Islam and it was due to some inconsistencies regarding shariah. If property is absolute and protected so much so that repeat thieves get their hands chopped after a court agreement, why is slavery - the act of stealing a whole person's time and human labour permissable after conquest? Rulings are convoluted in a lot of ways at least for me.
I don't see the inconsistency tbh, because when you conquer a land or a people in war you get everything they own anyway
 
I don't see the inconsistency tbh, because when you conquer a land or a people in war you get everything they own anyway
So using that logic it's fine to steal someone's whole land under the pretence of conquest, next time you fancy someone's property pay no mind to ethics just barge in sxb, thats what the yahuud are doing in west bank rn
 
I was ruminating over some of the critiques I have over Islam and it was due to some inconsistencies regarding shariah. If property is absolute and protected so much so that repeat thieves get their hands chopped after a court agreement, why is slavery - the act of stealing a whole person's time and human labour permissable after conquest? Rulings are convoluted in a lot of ways at least for me.
Such a waste of human capital to have someone sitting in a prison. If I'm putting my life on the line, I should be allowed to take that Kaffir and make him work for me for free.
 
Such a waste of human capital to have someone sitting in a prison. If I'm putting my life on the line, I should be allowed to take that Kaffir and make him work for me for free.
So a kafir is in your eyes a subhuman? On the same level as cattle, any person with intelligence will come to understand the foolishness of religious institutions, such folly only works through brainwashing. And their love is fake, based on demands and subservience through their idea of a deity
 
He was willing to kill a Muslim so of course I'm not gonna feel pity for them. Get to work!
My point was in regards to larceny and the subsequent penalty - amputation, and it stemmed from the fact that the thief coveted the property of the victim. If property is respected and to such a degree, why does Islam permit slavery - you steal human labour that does not belong to you. I did not point to murder as the original transgression in any instance
 
But anyways, I very much doubt that the average Muslim will closely examine their beliefs, it is too risky to one's own self and identity
 
My point was in regards to larceny and the subsequent penalty - amputation, and it stemmed from the fact that the thief coveted the property of the victim. If property is respected and to such a degree, why does Islam permit slavery - you steal human labour that does not belong to you. I did not point to murder as the original transgression in any instance
When you fight you forfeit your life and labor. Even nowadays in the US prison system they have prisoners working.
 

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Hence why Islam isn't Godly, its not following divine law, thank you for admitting that though, I respect you
It's the law of nature nigga. It's present in all species. Idk what is it with you atheists and this twisted reality where everything is a utopia.

Life is a challenge, war happens and losers get crushed.
You can see this in humans, wolves ect.
Even close species like chimpanzees go to war, there's a documentary about two chimpanzee tribes that had a war very similar to how humans would war.
There are ant colonies with millions of ants that go to war and savage each other until one is completely destroyed.
 
It's the law of nature nigga. It's present in all species. Idk what is it with you atheists and this twisted reality where everything is a utopia.

Life is a challenge, war happens and losers get crushed.
You can see this in humans, wolves ect.
Even close species like chimpanzees go to war, there's a documentary about two chimpanzee tribes that had a war very similar to how humans would war.
There are ant colonies with millions of ants that go to war and savage each other until one is completely destroyed.
Then you have to question whether or not your God is truly omnibenevolent, why on earth would God make some child born in a gaalo village go through muslim raids and either be put into slavery or conscripted? Is God not far removed from humans? I believe in a higher being but my idea of God is perfect and detests evil, the religion would make sense
 
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