Why is a women cheating on her husband worse than a man cheating on his wife?
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Because in the "old" days before we have this nifty thing called paternity testing. The only way you can make sure your spawn as a man was yours was through marriage. Therefore, a cheating woman threw a spanner in the works of knowing if ya child was even yours.
What about the unhygenic nature of multiple men going in the same area?
Or the fact having a baby from another man is going to cause alot of issues in the relationship?
also, just a personal opinion but i don't use that site cuz i don't think it's trustworthy.
How do you not think its trustworthy?
it's not that they are "not trustworthy" it's just that they are wahhabi/salafi and i don't identify as such so i just avoid them.
Yh but if you read th stuff they say objectively you get good insight, read the article
Did you read the article?
That’s a fear lots of men have that women probably can’t understand. A similar thing is if the hospital accidentally swapped babies and then you’ve been raising someone else’s child for 20 years, it sucks
Did you even read the article?
Paternity.
However, there is nothing in the Quran and Sunnah to suggest it’s worse for a woman. It is more so scholarly commentary of Ibn Qayyim and that is his personal opinion.
The punishment in the Dunya and Akhira is completely the same. The Quran, literally says the fornicating man is the for the fornicating woman.
if we look at evidence strictly in the light of the deen, there is nothing to suggest that.
However, there is nothing in the Quran and Sunnah to suggest it’s worse for a woman. It is more so scholarly commentary of Ibn Qayyim and that is his personal opinion.
The punishment in the Dunya and Akhira is completely the same. The Quran, literally says the fornicating man is the for the fornicating woman.
if we look at evidence strictly in the light of the deen, there is nothing to suggest that.
The scholar is commenting using his knowledge of the Quran and sunnah.
We don't know the akhirah punishment is completely the same, it differs based on situation, and who the zina is commited with
Where did he qoute Quran and Sunnah with regards to it being worse for women? Show me? It was merely a scholarly commentary. You will also be hard pressed to find it which is why the scholar didn’t use any as well. Because if he could, he would.
Scholars aren’t infallible. There were also Hanbali scholars who thought that Arab women marrying non Arab men shouldn’t be allowed. Would you take that on face value? Ibn Taymiyyah also believed that Arabs are superior. Of course, they’re human beings and they were commenting using their knowledge of Quran and Sunnah, but like I said they’re human and as far as we are all aware, there is nothing in the Quran and Sunnah to suggest that IR relationships are haram. You were advocating for it the other day.
I’m talking about genders here, not different scenarios.
Allah does not differentiate between the male and female with regards to sins. Also, the fatwa YOU posted also doesn’t say that Allah does. Ibn Qayyim was mostly saying it was worse for women due to lineage issues.
The Quran makes it very clear that the Fornicating man and woman is the same.
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A man fornicating with his neighbours wife is worse than with a strange girl, point is that depending on circumstance their is more harm in zina compared to others
Using this, ibnulqayyim RA extracted that it is worse for a wife to cheat on her husband than a man to cheat on his wife, using evidences from real life, and things Islam has valued, did you read what ibnul qayyim said?
1.Nisaab is never a light matter,it is one of 5 things the sharia aims to protect ,the rights of the child start from when the mother gets pregnant, therefore not knowing who the father is, or wrongfully attributing the father is hated to Allah, not only that, but the inheritance, keeping of family ties, and the rest, is also counted in this, not knowing the father Islamically plays a massive role
2.A women spoils her husbands bed
3.A women uses her husbands blessings on her, his money, his house his clothes and food he has provided her, and used to betray her husband
4.A women cheating on her husband is much more of a disgrace than a man cheating on his wife, this is a fact of life, Islamically a women is much more protected than a man in terms of modesty, she should seclude herself in her home as much as possible, wear garments which cover her entire body, a man has intense gheerah over his women, a women cheating on her husband is much more of a shameful thing to a women than it is too a man.
5.It is contradictory to a womens nature, a women is only ever allowed to be with one man at once, Islamically, whereas a man has the capability of having multiple wives. This means in and within itself it is harmful for a women to have multiple men she is in a relationship with, whereas it is not for a man, so when a man cheats on his wife, it is a disgusting sin, but when a women cheats, not only is it a disgusting sin, but she gets the extra sin of going against her nature, and doing something that she is never allowed to do, and harmful in and within itself
6.Men have much more gheerah over their women than women do over their men, Umar RA didn't even like his wife going to the mosque, but he couldn't forbid her from going, like wise the sahaba had instense gheerah for their wives because they were on the fitra, when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasalam entered Umar RAs palace in jannah, he turned away when he saw one of his wives, this is the most perfect man free of sickness in his heart or evil, in jannah where there is no wrong, and he remembered Umar RAs jealousy over his women so he turned away.
The point I am getting too, is that this same kind of gheerah is not the same for women, a women does not have as much protective jealousy over her men than a man for his women, this is men are allowed to marry multiple wives as it isn't completely against a womens nature to share her man, whereas it is completely against a mans nature to share his women
7. It is disgusting and unhygenic to have 2 men sleeping with the same women, any man thinking about this would be disgusted, a womens private parts are not the same as a mans, it is much harder to clean and it takes weeks for it to be fully cleaned naturally, a mans private parts are much cleaner as they can easily be cleaned and much harder to carry diseases, this is why men get less STDs than people sorry to say "receiving", because a mans private part is more easily cleaned, which is why its ok to have multiple women, on the contrary, a women with multiple men will be less clean and have mixed fluids of both men
8.When a women cheats on her husband, the husbands status in front of the people is much lower than if a man were to cheat on his wife.
Thats just some that I thought of, both adultery for men and women are disgusting, but they are all of different levels, adultery with homosexuality is worse than straight adulery, adultery while your husband is on jihaad is worse than normal, adultery with neighbour is worse, adultery with your fathers wife(not your mum) is worse than with a strange women
So all zinaa is of different types, and from ibn qayyims hikma he saw that a womens adultery causes more harm than a mans
No because the sin in question has different effects based o the gender therefore they will be treated differently as the sin is in different levels
Not same in punishment in akhirah but same in being disgusting and having punishment in dunya, a person who commits zina with his neighbour will get the same dunya punishment as with a strange girl but there akhirah punishments are different
