People think im anti irir due to clan reasons which I already addressed in previous thread, why I object them(a clan that doesn't want to accept negativity is only proving their dishonest and this can put to question everything else in their society), becuz we know 'perfection' doesn't exist.
Why Im Anti Somaliland and No Lander has responded to my points, so I still hold firmly to this position.
1. Historical. The UK signed treaties independently with the north not 'unified' as their promoting, in-fact some didn't even sign a treaty. Some were kingdoms that were forcefully dismantled. So Isaaq colonial argument ends there, return to 'isaaq treaty areas' immediately if you don't want to look like clowns.
2. The colonial legality, which was 'ceded' ended in 1960, Somalia borders are recognized by the world, to promote that u can 'carve' out a border for a disgruntled group on a 'debunked' colonial premise and colonial borders that do not exist, is insanity at it's core. If SL wants to secede it needs to follow proper secession models by asking for Somalia to accept it first, since it's their border or else this can set off a precedent globally any disgruntled group can carve out fictious borders.
3. The founding of SL was thru 'violence' which even your leaders boast about constantly, then they used violence on themselves and other clans in the region which they still carry out this method. This is a dangerous way to find a state thru violence and force, as proven by how ethiopia, somalia, south sudan fell to violence, those type of states fall to violence internally(like south sudan) which SL is 'ripe' for due to it's own unresolved Isaaq issues and violent founding, it could even lead to civil war with other northern clans or PL. Infact if it does survive, it will prove to be nuisance regionally and globally(shabab support, taiwan support), their already showing the direction it's heading is towards other violent founding states that still holding off a violent take over internally like north korea-iran-eritrea, etc and we know those nations do not support positivity anywhere, they can't due to it's founding n shaky foundations.
4. The international community do not want to see anything outside a 1 somalia model based on it's legal borders. It doesn't make sense to them that a 10 million social group get 7 or so U.N seats, becuz if SL leaves, their no reason why any other state can be refused. It doesn't make sense to divide a poor country further, as it makes it even poorer and more insignificant.
5. SL claims of genocide by the previous dictator is faulty and dishonest, it was the SNM thugs who put your ppl in the firing line by fighting from civilian quarters due to their 'weakness' like other rebel and terrorist groups do. They put their people in the firing line not Siyad, it was up to your ppl to tell them 'leave' us but they didn't. Every state in the world has the right to attack rebels or terrorists(ask abi ahmed n tigray, or ask america n confederates) but arguing siyad can't is stupidity of the greatest dimension. Im sorry but a 'state' is built n recognized by it's people, u can't over-ride it by going into 'small' room and declaring a clan rebel group or god forbid 'terrorist' groups arguing they have some 'holy appointment by god'.
Why Im Anti Somaliland and No Lander has responded to my points, so I still hold firmly to this position.
1. Historical. The UK signed treaties independently with the north not 'unified' as their promoting, in-fact some didn't even sign a treaty. Some were kingdoms that were forcefully dismantled. So Isaaq colonial argument ends there, return to 'isaaq treaty areas' immediately if you don't want to look like clowns.
2. The colonial legality, which was 'ceded' ended in 1960, Somalia borders are recognized by the world, to promote that u can 'carve' out a border for a disgruntled group on a 'debunked' colonial premise and colonial borders that do not exist, is insanity at it's core. If SL wants to secede it needs to follow proper secession models by asking for Somalia to accept it first, since it's their border or else this can set off a precedent globally any disgruntled group can carve out fictious borders.
3. The founding of SL was thru 'violence' which even your leaders boast about constantly, then they used violence on themselves and other clans in the region which they still carry out this method. This is a dangerous way to find a state thru violence and force, as proven by how ethiopia, somalia, south sudan fell to violence, those type of states fall to violence internally(like south sudan) which SL is 'ripe' for due to it's own unresolved Isaaq issues and violent founding, it could even lead to civil war with other northern clans or PL. Infact if it does survive, it will prove to be nuisance regionally and globally(shabab support, taiwan support), their already showing the direction it's heading is towards other violent founding states that still holding off a violent take over internally like north korea-iran-eritrea, etc and we know those nations do not support positivity anywhere, they can't due to it's founding n shaky foundations.
4. The international community do not want to see anything outside a 1 somalia model based on it's legal borders. It doesn't make sense to them that a 10 million social group get 7 or so U.N seats, becuz if SL leaves, their no reason why any other state can be refused. It doesn't make sense to divide a poor country further, as it makes it even poorer and more insignificant.
5. SL claims of genocide by the previous dictator is faulty and dishonest, it was the SNM thugs who put your ppl in the firing line by fighting from civilian quarters due to their 'weakness' like other rebel and terrorist groups do. They put their people in the firing line not Siyad, it was up to your ppl to tell them 'leave' us but they didn't. Every state in the world has the right to attack rebels or terrorists(ask abi ahmed n tigray, or ask america n confederates) but arguing siyad can't is stupidity of the greatest dimension. Im sorry but a 'state' is built n recognized by it's people, u can't over-ride it by going into 'small' room and declaring a clan rebel group or god forbid 'terrorist' groups arguing they have some 'holy appointment by god'.
