Why hasn't a single clan ever dominated the rest?

[Khaem]

I want to hear your theory on why can’t somali
”elites” work together and rule the country. The clan elites certainly could have shared the pie and be rich by skimming of the top.

They're too stupid for that. Their whole thing is based on telling their isolated clansmen bs about their neighbouring clans and occasionally going to some clan skirmishes then shouting about how landheer they are.

 

[Hilmaam]

Somalis got all the scraps left if we were powerful we would have rich Ethiopian highlands and control of rivers and fight external people. Our arid lands forces nomad lifestyle upon us and in turn decentralization. Other races around us have more numbers in my opinion due to farming on better land. Soon we will see sub sub clans in somali fighting over resources when our numbers get big enough you will see . We only stronger than each other

 

[Khaem]

Somalis got all the scraps left if we were powerful we would have rich Ethiopian highlands and control of rivers and fight external people. Our arid lands forces nomad lifestyle upon us and in turn decentralization. Other races around us have more numbers in my opinion due to farming on better land. Soon we will see sub sub clans in somali fighting over resources when our numbers get big enough you will see . We only stronger than each other

We did control the Ethiopian Highlands and we settled fertile Hararghe which is right next to Amhara the entire medieval period.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

I want to hear your theory on why can’t somali
”elites” work together and rule the country. The clan elites certainly could have shared the pie and be rich by skimming of the top.

They are working together, and are ruling together, to scam and steal from the Somali people. If you're talking about the educational elite, they don't wield the gun.

There is a deceased ex-President (family friend) of a state that stole alot of money and gave some to his best friend, who belongs to a political enemy clan.

 

[Hilmaam]

We did control the Ethiopian Highlands and we settled fertile Hararghe which is right next to Amhara the entire medieval period.

are you talking about Adal sultante? That was long time ago who knows what language that kingdom even used between all the different Muslim races involved. The last hundred years or so we’ve mostly been in Somalia and where most our squabbles happen.

 

[Khaem]

are you talking about Adal sultante? That was long time ago who knows what language that kingdom even used between all the different Muslim races involved. The last hundred years or so we’ve mostly been in Somalia and where most our squabbles happen.

You forget Galbeed or smth?? Somalis own half the horn. We started expanding into Kenya by the 1890s we had several treated signed by Ogaden & Co. With Oromo opening up more and more lands for Somali settling and eventually the Somali forced the oromo to migrate west out of NFD and leave behind a portion of their Cattle and Women for the Somali.

We may have lost Hararghe in the Highlands which was next to amhara and was settled by Somali Farmers who mostly have since been assimilated into Oromo however many are still Somali there. Whenever you see an Oromo that's basically offbrand Somali in culture ect. Then they are probably from hararghe.

 

[Hilmaam]

You forget Galbeed or smth?? Somalis own half the horn. We started expanding into Kenya by the 1890s we had several treated signed by Ogaden & Co. With Oromo opening up more and more lands for Somali settling and eventually the Somali forced the oromo to migrate west out of NFD and leave behind a portion of their Cattle and Women for the Somali.

We may have lost Hararghe in the Highlands which was next to amhara and was settled by Somali Farmers who mostly have since been assimilated into Oromo however many are still Somali there. Whenever you see an Oromo that's basically offbrand Somali in culture ect. Then they are probably from hararghe.

Galbeed is arid mostly right ? Somalis mostly nomads .we have farming communities here and there and some probably was absorbed . Most of our history and present is nomadic based people is all I’m saying which doesn’t bode well mostly for centralization. Good luck collecting taxes from nomads and making them fall inline

 

[Step a side]

Galbeed is arid mostly right ? Somalis mostly nomads .we have farming communities here and there and some probably was absorbed . Most of our history and present is nomadic based people is all I’m saying which doesn’t bode well mostly for centralization. Good luck collecting taxes from nomads and making them fall inline

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Thank you. It’s impossible to centralise nomads. It never happened anywhere. Our lifestyle is the main reason why we are in this mess today. When the Turks entered Persia & Anatolia they quickly left behind their nomadic way of life and adopted the Persian and Hellenic way of life. In other words they became “settled”.

 

[Kizaru]

We noble issa already govern a country and rule over Afars and Arabs. With functional government and state. What has other qabil got to against us?

Puntland Somaliland kkkkkk where's your flag

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Fr. Noble issa dominate even non somalis

 

[Hilmaam]

Thank you. It’s impossible to centralise nomads. It never happened anywhere. Our lifestyle is the main reason why we are in this mess today. When the Turks entered Persia & Anatolia they quickly left behind their nomadic way of life and adopted the Persian and Hellenic way of life. In other words they became “settled”.

need settlements and sustainable food and water. Most of us related very recently, same language , look same , same relgiion we will keep fighting over nosnsene till we change lifestyle and conquer climate/land

 

[NidarNidar]

are you talking about Adal sultante? That was long time ago who knows what language that kingdom even used between all the different Muslim races involved. The last hundred years or so we’ve mostly been in Somalia and where most our squabbles happen.

We gambled everything to turn the other cushites into Muslims and failed miserably, the oromos took advantage and absorbed Habesha and a large amount of Dir, Hawiye and Darood into Oromia.

Our land is arid but full of resources, if we can stabilise it for a few decades, and hold each other accountable, we can easily surpass beta Saudis.

 

[Hilmaam]

We gambled everything to turn the other cushites into Muslims and failed miserably, the promos took advantage and absorbed Habesha and a large amount of Dir, Hawiye and Darood into Oromia.

Our land is arid but full of resources, if we can stabilise it for a few decades, and hold each other accountable, we can easily surpass beta Saudis.

If we rise and get rich I can see many coming back and even being absorbed back into Somalis. Look at Jews hundreds of years in Europe changed last names. But when Israel rose again all popped out from woodwork ready to join back and be Jews Israelis. Lol I’m keeping tiny bit of hope we get them back

 

[Step a side]

We gambled everything to turn the other cushites into Muslims and failed miserably, the oromos took advantage and absorbed Habesha and a large amount of Dir, Hawiye and Darood into Oromia.

Our land is arid but full of resources, if we can stabilise it for a few decades, and hold each other accountable, we can easily surpass beta Saudis.

Brother doing the work of Dawah is a noble work. No one ever failed in working to spread the message of Allah to other communities. We just didn’t do enough. If we want to move forward as a nation we need to continue learning, practicing and spreading the word of Allah as well as stop pastorilsm all together. We also need to stop voting for incompetent losers as president. We need to be carefully who we chose as president to lead us.

 

[NidarNidar]

If we rise and get rich I can see many coming back and even being absorbed back into Somalis. Look at Jews hundreds of years in Europe changed last names. But when Israel rose again all popped out from woodwork ready to join back and be Jews Israelis. Lol I’m keeping tiny bit of hope we get them back

A lot of the oromized Somalis tend to be Muslim so we won't even need push the clan/ethnicity card, but the religion card.

We just need a strong Ummah.

 

[NidarNidar]

Brother doing the work of Dawah is a noble work. No one ever failed in working to spread the message of Allah to other communities. We just didn’t do enough. If we want to move forward as a nation we need to continue learning, practicing and spreading the word of Allah as well as stop pastorilsm all together. We also need to stop voting for incompetent losers as president. We need to be carefully who we chose as president to lead us.

We need a strong president, one willing to not compromise with the west but smart enough to use them to get us enough stability.

 

[El Nino]

They are working together, and are ruling together, to scam and steal from the Somali people. If you're talking about the educational elite, they don't wield the gun.

There is a deceased ex-President (family friend) of a state that stole alot of money and gave some to his best friend, who belongs to a political enemy clan.

So they are parasites, you have confirmed what I suspected. What is needed to happen so they can start working for the benefit of the people, God knows.

 

[Abdalla]

Darods dominated the rest from 1960-1991