Why do Muslims believe they can build a future in the West?

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If you choose to stay in the west then you should be comfortable with the idea that your children will most likely NOT be Muslims. They will assimilate into their host countries and that includes leaving Islam. Those Muslims who believe they can actually build a 3rd generation or 4th generation community are very delusional.
 
I agree. All of us should come here only for education, then save money and build a house back home to move back to after our studies are done. Me and my entire family plan to relocate back to Somalia real soon. I suggest everyone else do the same.
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If you choose to stay in the west then you should be comfortable with the idea that your children will most likely NOT be Muslims. They will assimilate into their host countries and that includes leaving Islam. Those Muslims who believe they can actually build a 3rd generation or 4th generation community are very delusional.
I agree. All of us should come here only for education, then save money and build a house back home to move back to after our studies are done. Me and my entire family plan to relocate back to Somalia real soon. I suggest everyone else do the same.
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Feel free to return back home. That's the beauty of freedom.

As for me and many others, my future is here.
 
Not only do they not have a future here but they are plucking it up for other deserving immigrants from poor western countries who really contribute to the countries they immigrate to. Now the far right has risen everywhere because of Muslims and their bullshit.
 
Feel free to return back home. That's the beauty of freedom.

As for me and many others, my future is here.
As long as you accept the fact that your progeny will most likely be non-Muslims who will assimilate and race mix then I don’t see the issue with your position.
 

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The west is indeed corrupt place. However it depends how you raise your children. I intend to raise my children conservative.
 
As long as you accept the fact that your progeny will most likely be non-Muslims who will assimilate and race mix then I don’t see the issue with your position.

What makes you think this generation of Somali parents will be as terrible as the last?:mjpls:


And iman is not in the hands of the parents. The children of some of the prophets were disbelievers, so are we better than them?
 
Me of course. Some way my dad raise us. We grew in the west and non of us are gaalo
I disagree. I know a lot of religious parents who tried to raise their children “conservatively” and failed. Social media, the internet, your children’s friends, teachers, the overall culture is who you’ll be fighting against. And you’ll most likely lose the battle. Why even put your child in such an environment if you’re not willing to accept the fact that they can and most likely will leave Islam?
 
What makes you think this generation of Somali parents will be as terrible as the last?:mjpls:


And iman is not in the hands of the parents. The children of some of the prophets were disbelievers, so are we better than them?
Our parents were practicing Muslims who are secluded in their own little Somali bubble.

Their children are Muslims by name, but are barely indistinguishable from non-Muslims in actions.

Their children will abandon the Muslim name and fully assimilate into their host countries.

Your children won’t be the lone wolf who’ll survive this wave of westernisation.
 
Not only do they not have a future here but they are plucking it up for other deserving immigrants from poor western countries who really contribute to the countries they immigrate to. Now the far right has risen everywhere because of Muslims and their bullshit.
If caribbeans set the bar for those accomplishment than we've done plenty. :camby:Look at this coon acting like his people aren't primarily criminals trying to sound like an alt right.
 
I disagree. I know a lot of religious parents who tried to raise their children “conservatively” and failed. Social media, the internet, your children’s friends, teachers, the overall culture is who you’ll be fighting against. And you’ll most likely lose the battle. Why even put your child in such an environment if you’re not willing to accept the fact that they can and most likely will leave Islam?
especially know that they are pushing things that were hidden in subliminal messages just one decade ago, in the open.
 

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I disagree. I know a lot of religious parents who tried to raise their children “conservatively” and failed. Social media, the internet, your children’s friends, teachers, the overall culture is who you’ll be fighting against. And you’ll most likely lose the battle. Why even put your child in such an environment if you’re not willing to accept the fact that they can and most likely will leave Islam?

There is always flate line in the case of everything. Some Muslims will leave the religion regardless. The Internet is global these days, no way escaping it. however, that doesn't mean with all wrong with the west parents can't raise their children right. Many have. my parents being an example. These days spirituality Is making comeback, we have all these reverts. It's not doomy.
 
There is always flate line in the case of everything. Some Muslims will leave the religion regardless. The Internet is global these days, no way escaping it, however if that does mean with all is wrong with the west parents can't raise their children right. Many have my parents being an example. These days spirituality Is making comeback, we have all these reverts. It's not doomy.
I’ve heard that up to 75 % of reverts end up leaving Islam, and if you don’t take immigrants into account, far more people are leaving Islam in the West than people are reverting to Islam or being born as a Muslim. Such a phenomenon will never exist in Muslim countries because the same factors that make Muslims apostate in the West, are the same factors that make Muslims stay Muslim in their own countries if you get what I mean.
 
If caribbeans set the bar for those accomplishment than we've done plenty. :camby:Look at this coon acting like his people aren't primarily criminals trying to sound like an alt right.

You serious homie. You name the field of endeavor and I can find you caribbeans who have contributed mightily.

Look all i'm saying is that with the addition of muslims in the west you now have two fanatical religious groups who wants to convert and dominate the world....one filled with child molesters and one filled with stone-aged neanderthal minds. That's too much. We can only handle one demented group at a time.

Muslims should stick to muslim countries where they can live their backward lifestyle in peace.
 

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I’ve heard that up to 75 % of reverts end up leaving Islam, and if you don’t take immigrants into account, far more people are leaving Islam in the West than people are reverting to Islam or being born as a Muslim. Such a phenomenon will never exist in Muslim countries because the same factors that make Muslims apostate in the West, are the same factors that make Muslims stay Muslim in their own countries if you get what I mean.


There is no sources to prove what you just said. Muslims are the second biggest religion in America and the fastest growing religion.

The number of Muslims keeps on increasing whether it's due to over sized Muslim families or reverts, one fact remains while others religions decline in number Muslims increase.

As for apostates I haven't come across a survey showing us why people leave islam, but from what I have seen on the Internet I can say itit's mostly emotion that drives people away from islam. I can also say I have seen far more reverts than ex Muslims.
 

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You serious homie. You name the field of endeavor and I can find you caribbeans who have contributed mightily.

Look all i'm saying is that with the addition of muslims in the west you now have two fanatical religious groups who wants to convert and dominate the world....one filled with child molesters and one filled with stone-aged neanderthal minds. That's too much. We can only handle one demented group at a time.

Muslims should stick to muslim countries where they can live their backward lifestyle in peace.

All you Caribbean people do is shake your butts and sniff it like pack of wild dogs. I wouldn't call anyone backwards while your culture promotes twerking infant babies and single mother households.
 
You serious homie. You name the field of endeavor and I can find you caribbeans who have contributed mightily.

Look all i'm saying is that with the addition of muslims in the west you now have two fanatical religious groups who wants to convert and dominate the world....one filled with child molesters and one filled with stone-aged neanderthal minds. That's too much. We can only handle one demented group at a time.

Muslims should stick to muslim countries where they can live their backward lifestyle in peace.

Small talks from a little man, now go back to your brethren who are in the tens of millions, what you think Somalis are the only people who are only Muslims?, you are talking shit making it about race, tbh i know you hate us good on you!, now try to talk shit to your fellow men who follow the Islamic religion and see how they deal with you instead of talking shit on here day and night
 
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