Why are you against Somalilands recognition

FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
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And the excuse that they used was that people from SWS was behind the assassinations that were happening in the region. If this was even true in the slightest why have the assassinations not stopped after the deportations. They have not even apologised and accepted they were wrong for deporting those innocent people even after its clear as day that SWS people were not behind the assassinations. That day was a black day in Somali history. It will go down in the future History books Inshallah.

October 2021 was the when I drew the line and stopped supporting the Somaliland cause. If I ever become president of Somalia I will invade Somaliland and bring them back under Somali government by force as revenge for the wrongs they committed against my community. If this does not happen then I hope a president comes and grabs Somaliland with an iron fist.
Those idoors were known as Somalidiid.

We need south Somalia to be with us in fight against them.
 

El Nino

Cabsi cabsi
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The damn name is SOMALI-land, they are trying to get away from Somalia while being somalis. Shit is hilarious and they are not the only ones, all other clans act the same but pretend to be nationalists.


I just think its stupid to separate yourself from other somalis, we are the same.
 
Those idoors were known as Somalidiid.

We need south Somalia to be with us in fight against them.
Its a ticking time bomb. If Somalia starts to get up and stand on its two feet its one of the difficult issues we will have to deal with. In my opinion in the end its gonna get to a situation where Somaliland either hands itself over to Somalia or we take it over by force. Its inevitable for the progress of the Somali state.
 
Its a ticking time bomb. If Somalia starts to get up and stand on its two feet its one of the difficult issues we will have to deal with. In my opinion in the end its gonna get to a situation where Somaliland either hands itself over to Somalia or we take it over by force. Its inevitable for the progress of the Somali state.

i dont think war is the answer like djibouti we should be recognized as a independent country you wouldnt declare war on djibouti then why somaliland
 
I am against the breaking up of the Zoo Nation regardless because it was the previous generation that brought the civil war upon us and ruined our future, 30+ years later we should come together and build a prosperous nation without any secession from any region and to retain our strategic 7 shape. I have seen many SLers despise the name “Somalia” and of course we can change the name to what it was called “Somali Republic” as it says on our passport. But then again, the ball is in Reer SL court and on how well they lobby during negotiations.
 
I am against the breaking up of the Zoo Nation regardless because it was the previous generation that brought the civil war upon us and ruined our future, 30+ years later we should come together and build a prosperous nation without any secession from any region and to retain our strategic 7 shape. I have seen many SLers despise the name “Somalia” and of course we can change the name to what it was called “Somali Republic” as it says on our passport. But then again, the ball is in Reer SL court and on how well they lobby during negotiations.
we no interest in the south. we want recognition and somalia should focus on that
 

hinters

E pluribus unum
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Were talking about the borders we came with not clan succession.

Somaliland should get recognised by the south it will give you an ally in the region and hopefully help with developing the region.
Somaliland is an isaaq ethnostate, we northern darods want 0 part in it.
 
we no interest in the south. we want recognition and somalia should focus on that
With the 1961 act of Union between SL and Somalia it’s very hard to gain recognition and very unlikely.

Somali Govt right now is at a weak state, I don’t see secession happening anytime soon. I hope SL comes to realise this and uses this to their advantage to make sure they are at the advantage when it comes to negotiations.
 
Giving somaliland recognise doesn't mean we should be fully cut off any relationship with Somalia, in an ideal world could form some sort of union together with Djibouti were we could help one another and trade (similar to how the EU works).
I am not against it, in fact I will support it. However there are issues to resolve at first. To do so, let us define SL. What do you consider SL? And who wants to secede?
 
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1) Somaliland certainly has potential to develop. The point is how is Somaliland development any good for somalia? If SL develops it will mainly benefit SL and certainly they will never share any of those benefits with Somalia since they despise us.
Could you expand what is informing this idea? Is it based on theory, or an actuality?

2) unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. Somaliland would be a hostile country to Somalia even if they got their independence. There's too much anti somalia hatred in SL which is the basis of their attitude towards us
Have you been to SL? If you have, you would know that other than some nutters on the Internet, mostly kids born abroad, who have never been to SL, the average Somali in SL has no animosity towards Somalis from other regions. Further, there are politicians who use it as a scapegoat to misridect the public when they have no answers to the economic and policical issues in Hargeysa.

3) Another problem is that somaliland recognition will open the door for PL recognition which in turn will open the door for each federal state declaring independence.
PL will never pursue secession, and even if some politicians fancy the idea, the public will not allow it to pass.
 
Somali land reminds me of Israel, constant victim mentality from its advocates. The fact is Somalis Bear no animosity towards you.
 

Laagite

الداروودي
Walaal, I am for it at times but turn against it as a person who is from Somaliland. My Qabiil is hated on along with the rest of Somalis by the majority of the Somaliland elite which are the Isaaq. Somalia and it's flag are also viewed the same way as Nazi Germany was viewed by other Europeans. The iceing on the cake is that Somaliland separatists are the most anti-Somali people I have seen. They don't even believe in the Somali identity and view that we are their biggest enemy as non-Isaaq Somalis. I wish the best for them but wallahi they hate our guts.
This is true, we're not sticking around to end up 3rd class citizens in SL, a darood will forever be a tourist/shiishiye in SL.
 
I could not really care less if Somaliland becomes independent or not. As long as they keep stepping on the neck of the Darood Somalilanders their cause is not affecting me.
 

Laagite

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I could not really care less if Somaliland becomes independent or not. As long as they keep stepping on the neck of the Darood Somalilanders their cause is not affecting me.
You seem to care enough to comment when you put Darood and Somaliland cuqdad having nigga
 

Laagite

الداروودي
I clearly mean i don't care if the isaaqs gain recognition as long as they take their subjects along with them who are randomly anti my people even though we don't border each other.
I know what you meant clearly don't play that mental gymnastic, you've got main character syndrome who wakes up thinking "I hate Abgaal" stfu nigga you're anti my people.
 
I know what you meant clearly don't play that mental gymnastic, you've got main character syndrome who wakes up thinking "I hate Abgaal" stfu nigga you're anti my people.
i didn't even mean abgaal specifically so you flopped with that. just hawiye as a whole. If anything you guys are more anti hg. but why deny it. Both dhulo and warsan especially the former have hawiye cuqdad. Reer CBB, the countless elders I encountered FKDing, our fellow user world on this app are just a few example
 

Laagite

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i didn't even mean abgaal specifically so you flopped with that. just hawiye as a whole. If anything you guys are more anti hg. but why deny it. Both dhulo and warsan especially the former have hawiye cuqdad. Reer CBB, the countless elders I encountered FKDing, our fellow user world on this app are just a few example
You came out and said CBB I never mentioned Farmaajo once but when hawiye say shit like SL this or that to us is justified? The average Sanaagian doesn't even know what happens south of galkacyo let alone Hawiye. You fumbled it with the main character syndrome come out and say I hate Darood, you sound like a child caynimo comes from you mostly. I should look up the 3000 videos you made about us on youtube and if you mean CBB include Cali Yare and Odaawa in that shit too or are you not calling out your people hypocrite b*tch
 
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