Why are we screaming about Europe and America being biased and bigoted when we are worse?

[greznigrezni]

I don't see Somalis in chains being enslaved in the article. And the year is 2009. How does this article align with your claim of Arabs massively converting Somalis to Islam forcefully?

Natives Somalis were forced fed Islam. Even in modern Somalia, non-Muslims are killed and shunned by society. It's clear proof of the extremist organizations carefully brewing behind clan lines.

 

[Grey Alien]

Natives Somalis were forced fed Islam. Even in modern Somalia, non-Muslims are killed and shunned by society. It's clear proof of the extremist organizations carefully brewing behind clan lines.

*Natives Somalis were forced fed Islam.

No.

 

[greznigrezni]

*Natives Somalis were forced fed Islam.

No.

Yes, mister descendent of the ayrabian thief. You totally weren't beaten with sticks for not accepting Islam. In fact, you accepted Islam willingly.

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

How do you deny if something never happened? The fact that Amaharic people and Tigres remain Christians even though they were surrounded by Muslims for over a millennia proves your propaganda piece to have zero basis on facts.

All of Sudan was Christian during Axmed Gurey's time...now they are overhwlemingly Muslim.You are not very bright are you? Islamist extremism has clouded your brain

 

[Shimbiris]

Go read a book for once that isn't writtien by Ibn AbdulWahab or Ibn Baz Salafi boy.Check Sada Miire's recent book and her previous SL study. More then enough evidence from burial grounds to artifacts that showed Somalis from the North practiced Coptic Ethiopian Christianity

I've read her book and while it's possible, I don't find it convincing that many Somalis were ever Christians. There may have been some, or perhaps some Xabeshas in the hinterlands of Woqooyi who practiced it (though this is dubious too when I really look at it) but it doesn't entirely jibe with the linguistics, for example.

The Somali language, both north and south, is teeming with evidence that Somalis practiced Waaqism. Just a sheer abundance of words and surviving folktales and it shows in the material culture and customs both north and south. There really isn't as much proof at all in terms of Christianity. Just some tribes doing pilgrimages to some old saint sites and marking crosses on their foreheads and stuff like what Sada Mire found archaeologically which isn't THAT extensive, to be honest. I think it's a stretch to believe the whole northwest was Christian. But who knows.

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

All of Sudan was Christian during Axmed Gurey's time...now they are overhwlemingly Muslim.You are not very bright are you? Islamist extremism has clouded your brain

Which proves the supremacy of Islam intellectually over Christian doctrine since converting to a faith requires conviction and understanding of what you must buy into.

I do understand the angle you are pushing is forceful conversion of people to Islam, but all you do with your posts prove otherwise.

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

I've read her book and while it's possible, I don't find it convincing that many Somalis were ever Christians. There may have been some, or perhaps some Xabeshas in the hinterlands of Woqooyi who practiced it (though this is dubious too when I really look at it) but it doesn't entirely jibe with the linguistics, for example.

The Somali language, both north and south, is teeming with evidence that Somalis practiced Waaqism. Just a sheer abundance of words and surviving folktales and it shows in the material culture and customs both north and south. There really isn't as much proof at all in terms of Christianity. Just some tribes doing pilgrimages to some old saint sites and marking crosses on their foreheads and stuff like what Sada Mire found archaeologically which isn't THAT extensive, to be honest. I think it's a stretch to believe the whole northwest was Christian. But who knows.

I don't think every tribe was Christian but they were probably a signficant minority and the tribes that were Christian probably practiced some syncretic form of Christianity. I was just doing some shock & awe on the young brother as he was pretending as if it was impossible for a Somali in the pre-islamic days to be Christian because it runs contrary to whatever idealized perception he has of pre-islamic Somalis

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

Natives Somalis were forced fed Islam. Even in modern Somalia, non-Muslims are killed and shunned by society. It's clear proof of the extremist organizations carefully brewing behind clan lines.

If you accept your forefathers were forced into a religion they didn't willingly accept, why claim to be coreligionist with them and maintain a forced faith on you since we inherit religion from our birth parents naturally?

You contradict your claims of being a muslim and happy with it when you peddle unfounded claims. You seem emotional and to be carrying deep angst against Islam yet insist on being one to avoid mean words. That is cowardice. Just be who you are and debate intellectually to defend whatever you beleive in. That is more noble than maintain a fake facade to remain legiit.

 

[Shimbiris]

I don't think every tribe was Christian but they were probably a signficant minority and the tribes that were Christian probably practiced some syncretic form of Christianity. I was just doing some shock & awe on the young brother as he was pretending as if it was impossible for a Somali in the pre-islamic days to be Christian because it runs contrary to whatever idealized perception he has of pre-islamic Somalis

It still boggles my mind that Sudan was still Christian until the 16th century. Xabeshas being a Christian island within an ocean of Islam wasn't necessarily true until the Early Modern era. There were also still more Christians and Coptic speakers in Egypt than people would believe until fairly recently.

 

[Grey Alien]

Yes, mister descendent of the ayrabian thief. You totally weren't beaten with sticks for not accepting Islam. In fact, you accepted Islam willingly.

Wrong.

When you don't bring some sources of ancient Somalis being coverted to Islam by Arabs forcibly, which is your main point, then there is pointless to argue with you.

Islam is universally the religion for the mankind and that's the truth.

In fact that you're implying the tone in your couple messages which hints hatred for "whitey and thief Arabs" is enough to tell me that Islam is some "arab" religion for you.

Have you truly forgotten that the Holy last prophet S.A.W was Arab himself? Even if he was Arab, muslims and I do follow his messages for truth, not fact that he was Arab.

Lastly, I am the proud descendant of NOMAD SOOMALIS.