Why are we obsessed with. ......

[J-Rasta]

For once and for all we must be deluded enough to fall for this myth, how many times am I reminded by my claustrophobic somali elders by this

It's every single day that they mention this without clarifying the the reality behind this element
The Balkanization Of Somalia

I get it they're not muslims and they'll never be but why are we obsessed with them ?

Somalis often brag about Ahmed Guray teaching the Xabeshis to eat raw meat.
But it turns out they were stealthy enough not to be spotted by the enemy (something we somalis lack when it's comes to war strageties ) Kitfo is a traditional cuisine yet we Somalis overexeggerate it.
The futuh al habesha was an Arab conquest commanding Somali and Afar footsoldiers under the Islamic banner but we love lying to ourselves and re-write what's seems to be appropriate enough to boost our dead egos.
We have severe negativity towards this region and we blame our own failures and mistakes on them
It seems like they are the bogeyman just like Arabs cursing Jews but it were the Arabs whom are imcompetent and brainless imbeciles .
Same can be applied to Somalis who cling on to this ridicoulous thing.
As ive noticed in this forum some SSPOTers give us a clear indication that they are likely to suffer from severe OCD or delusional disorders
A weird obsession
An average Ethiopian living in densely hinterland or rural areas barely know where the Somali regional state is located let alone Shitehole a
They mind their own bussinessess since they have to deal with abject poverty they seemed to be basically live their lives without that particular curse tyet dumb fools or stupid politicians in Mogadishu are using the popular word Ethiopia on every Somali Media Based Network on a daily basis we mention Ethiopia more than Somalia .

Its only the Oromos and fewer high ranking officials that seem to have little knowledge of the Somalis due to interactions in Kilil 5 and the Wajaale border with Somaliland
1/3 of 100 million Ethiopians have little knowledge of Somalis and if you asked them in the streets of Addis Ababa(except from bole michale) , Awassa, Arba Minch, Gonder, Jimma,Bahir Dar and Nazaret the word Somali is insignificant and some cannot even locate Jigjiga/Godey (regional capitals).

Can we let go of this since Djibouti a semi Somali state are using their brains for economic gains

Ask the people of jigjiga if they rather want to join a backwards tribal arab loving fragile state known as Somalia or want to remain in the federation
they can secede as every regional state has a right to declare article 39
but it looks like the ONLF lost trust and faith with Mainland Somalis.
since the illegal apprehension of Qalbi Dhagax and many prominent figures

Not even the Kenyan Somalis want to be part of your mischieves.

You got puppets and crooked politicians embedded with tribalism ruining Somalinimo running to GULF States to prostitute more terror fundings
Some are even endorsing extremism and condoning AL SHABAAB's cowardice actions
It's your government who's a failure your tribal enclaves who are failing you
The 4.5 system that's dividing you to small segments
Not Ethiopia
Ethiopia has 5 million somalis who are contributing members of in their region least thing they want to do is avoid tribalism sectarianism and ways to eleviate the dire poverty common in many regional states .

Iska Ilow somaliweyn
Somalia is a Shitehole that lost its statehood and central government due to nacasyo acording to UN no sovereignty should be annexed even if it's shitty as Somalia.
The reality must be addressed if Siad Barre wasn't a hotheaded figure nor had rushed towards the border with his military high on khat , the state would have functioned in an alternative universe , unfortunately that's not the case it was their foolishness that led to this never ending tragedy
Some are bitter and miserable at somali cafes living in the past .
It's individuals like them that are indoctrinating the younger generations we are competent enough to solidify somali unity but it's all sheeko sheeko since each tribe hate one and another tribalism is inevitable in many certain ways due to the every day aspect of our lives we live and feed on tribalism.

This is what destroying the sovereignty not neighbouring states
We need to snap out from the sheeko xariir fairytales and back to reality to restore our sovereignty

 

[J-Rasta]

Deconstructing this toxic theory
Is this common among Somalis?

 

[Ayubi]

Arab conquest? I don't believe that. @Factz debunk his claim real quick.

 

[J-Rasta]

Arab conquest? I don't believe that. @Factz debunk his claim real quick.

Adalites consisted of Arabs minorities
and various cushitic ethnic majority.

The cushites had insignificant role due to various factors they had little knowledge of sea faring and were mainly pastrolists ,moving from place to place to seek vegetations for their livestocks
They were focused in interior regions
Zeila was uninhabited but a resting dock for merchant routes and caravans towards the interior, it eventually became a stragetic hub after the expansion of Islam established by settlers from Aden and beyond Hadhramaut

The Futuh Al Habesha was an Arab Conquest.

 

[AarLibaax]

You have a clear understanding of our predicament as a people.

We overstate our relevance while in abject poverty clinging on to what ever is left of our dignity, sovereignty, freedom and existence

 

[TheSayid]

your'e definitely ethiopian

 

[Ayubi]

Adalites consisted of Arabs minorities
and various cushitic ethnic majority.

The cushites had insignificant role due to various factors they had little knowledge of sea faring and were mainly pastrolists ,moving from place to place to seek vegetations for their livestocks
They were focused in interior regions
Zeila was uninhabited but a resting dock for merchant routes and caravans towards the interior, it eventually became a stragetic hub after the expansion of Islam established by settlers from Aden and beyond Hadhramaut

The Futuh Al Habesha was an Arab Conquest.

It seems like you fallen to Ethiopian ultra nationalist propaganda. Somalis actually made the majority of the soldiers and it was led by Somalis. Imam Ahmeds trusted commanders and high generals were in fact Somalis. Your claim that Zeila was established by Arabs from Aden is simply bs as Zeila was an ancient city. Somalis were also involved in trade, you are confused. I can't post sources on here as I don't have my phone.

@Factz post the sources on here and debunk his claims

 

[Ayubi]

your'e definitely ethiopian

I wouldn't be surprised. He's willing to downplay our history and give credit to Arabs for our history.

 

[J-Rasta]

@Ahmed sheikh @TheSayid

These narratives are unrealistic due to centuries of falsifying and distorting the truth.
Inconclusive and illogical as they are
Somalis like to overexeggerate anything to correct their image as I've mentioned earlier.

Today we do not know what's true or false.

Nor can we verify or have sources to prove their role or involvement in this historical event that took place.
We are nomadic people with primitive like minded thinking.
Had it not been the introduction of Islam, we weren't no different from the Afars who were semi naked .
So how is it plausible or believable enough that we had a role in that chapter knowing that we were people passing stories from our mouths couldn't write or read explains why this folklore is still believable among us when we don't have preserved version of story........

Not only do Somalis have this claim there are commonality with various Oromos, Afars and Hararis who's stories have more feasible explanations.....

 

[Ayubi]

@Ahmed sheikh

These narratives are unrealistic due to centuries of falsifying and distorting the truth.
Inconclusive and illogical as they are
Somalis like to overexeggerate anything to correct their image as I've mentioned earlier.

Today we do not know what's true or false.

Nor can we verify or have sources to prove their role or involvement in this historical event that took place.
We are nomadic people with primitive like minded thinking.
Had it not been the introduction of Islam, we weren't no different from the Afars who were semi naked .
So how is it plausible or believable enough that we had a role in that chapter knowing that we were people passing stories from our mouths couldn't write or read explains why this folklore is still believable among us when we don't have preserved version of story.

Not only do Somalis have this claim there are commonality with various Oromos, Afars and Hararis who's stories have more feasible explanations.

bro, not all Somalis were nomadic. Somalis consist of farmers and wealthy traders especially those on the coast.

Secondly, everything was recorded in Futuh al Habesha and other sources written at that time that affirms what the Somali testimony is. It seems like you lack any confidence in your own culture so your willing to project your own insecurities.

Your opinions on Somali history is subjective, I'm going with the sources and what was recorded at that time, if you don't like it then that's your problem. The sources are objective, your not.


You said "Not only do Somalis have this claim there are commonality with various Oromos, Afars and Hararis who's stories have more feasible explanations."

My response- Are you serious? so your downplaying The Somali role in the Adal conquests and giving more credit to people like Oromos and Hararis just tells me you don't know what your talking about or your probably just a self hater. If you read history you would know that Oromos didn't exist in the Adal wars and they were pagans who lived far away from the Sultanate. Have you ever heard of the Oromo expansion? Abti, please go read a book.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

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For once and for all we must be deluded enough to fall for this myth, how many times am I reminded by my claustrophobic somali elders by this

It's every single day that they mention this without clarifying the the reality behind this element
The Balkanization Of Somalia
I get it they're not muslims and they'll never be but why are we obsessed with them ?

this comes from guy who constanly bashes arabs with walls of texts about how racist arabs are and somalis being servile to them.

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Somalis often brag about Ahmed Guray teaching the Xabeshis to eat raw meat.
But it turns out they were stealthy enough not to be spotted by the enemy (something we somalis lack when it's comes to war strageties ) Kitfo is a traditional cuisine yet we Somalis overexeggerate it.

since when are you expert in on somali war strategies, your making riduculous statement with no evidence backing up

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The futuh al habesha was an Arab conquest commanding Somali and Afar footsoldiers under the Islamic banner but we love lying to ourselves and re-write what's seems to be appropriate enough to boost our dead egos. nigga, adal empire lands consit of today of somaliland and djibouti where the arabs who controlled the somalis go?

View attachment 80271We have severe negativity towards this region and we blame our own failures and mistakes on them
It seems like they are the bogeyman just like Arabs cursing Jews but it were the Arabs whom are imcompetent and brainless imbeciles .
Same can be applied to Somalis who cling on to this ridicoulous thing.
As ive noticed in this forum some SSPOTers give us a clear indication that they are likely to suffer from severe OCD or delusional disorders
A weird obsession

really bad example of people who control the world media and are vowing to anex more arab land https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/world/middleeast/jordan-valley-israel-netanyahu.html

QUOTE="Abdi Hanson, post: 1796430, member: 10899"]An average Ethiopian living in densely hinterland or rural areas barely know where the Somali regional state is located let alone Shitehole *******a
They mind their own bussinessess since they have to deal with abject poverty they seemed to be basically live their lives without that particular curse tyet dumb fools or stupid politicians in Mogadishu are using the popular word Ethiopia on every Somali Media Based Network on a daily basis we mention Ethiopia more than Somalia .

doesn't matter what the people think there goverment does have intresses to keep somalia down

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Ask the people of jigjiga if they rather want to join a backwards tribal arab loving fragile state known as Somalia or want to remain in the federation
they can secede as every regional state has a right to declare article 39
but it looks like the ONLF lost trust and faith with Mainland Somalis.
since the illegal apprehension of Qalbi Dhagax and many prominent figures

gosh i wonder why peolpe in ogaden weren't openly suporting onlf, it almost like people were under represive puppet adminstration that wil torure/kill you for suporting onlf

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You got puppets and crooked politicians embedded with tribalism ruining Somalinimo running to GULF States to prostitute more terror fundings
Some are even endorsing extremism and condoning AL SHABAAB's cowardice actions
It's your government who's a failure your tribal enclaves who are failing you
The 4.5 system that's dividing you to small segments
Not Ethiopia

ethiopia literally instal these puppet to begin with, retard.

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Ethiopia has 5 million somalis who are contributing members of in their region least thing they want to do is avoid tribalism sectarianism and ways to eleviate the dire poverty common in many regional states .

and if aren't ''contributing'' to ethiopia, you and your family will be slaughter and called ''onlf supporters''

View attachment 80271'This is what destroying the sovereignty not neighbouring states
We need to snap out from the sheeko xariir fairytales and back to reality to restore our sovereignty

fucking bullshit ethiopia destablized somalia in the 80s 90s 00s i have numerous articels document from ethiopian proffesors and wikileaks proving ethiopia involved with somali downfall.
ethiopia has been funding rebels in the 80s faning the flames civil war in the 90s and full out invasion , killing 20,000 people and making 2 milion homeless in mogadishu.

@Ahmed sheikh @TheSayid

These narratives are unrealistic due to centuries of falsifying and distorting the truth.
Inconclusive and illogical as they are
Somalis like to overexeggerate anything to correct their image as I've mentioned earlier.

Today we do not know what's true or false.

how do you know they have been falsified? we have western profesor confirming adal was somali empire, maybe it's you can't distinguishes what true or false

@Ahmed sheikh @TheSayid Nor can we verify or have sources to prove their role or involvement in this historical event that took place.
We are nomadic people with primitive like minded thinking.
Had it not been the introduction of Islam, we weren't no different from the Afars who were semi naked .
So how is it plausible or believable enough that we had a role in that chapter knowing that we were people passing stories from our mouths couldn't write or read explains why this folklore is still believable among us when we don't have preserved version of story........

Not only do Somalis have this claim there are commonality with various Oromos, Afars and Hararis who's stories have more feasible explanations.....

how you can call the afars half naked savages while claiming the are more likely being the true rulers of adal than somalis.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Adalites consisted of Arabs minorities
and various cushitic ethnic majority.

The cushites had insignificant role due to various factors they had little knowledge of sea faring and were mainly pastrolists ,moving from place to place to seek vegetations for their livestocks
They were focused in interior regions
Zeila was uninhabited but a resting dock for merchant routes and caravans towards the interior, it eventually became a stragetic hub after the expansion of Islam established by settlers from Aden and beyond Hadhramaut

The Futuh Al Habesha was an Arab Conquest.

 

[Tukraq]

View attachment 80271

For once and for all we must be deluded enough to fall for this myth, how many times am I reminded by my claustrophobic somali elders by this

It's every single day that they mention this without clarifying the the reality behind this element
The Balkanization Of Somalia

I get it they're not muslims and they'll never be but why are we obsessed with them ?

Somalis often brag about Ahmed Guray teaching the Xabeshis to eat raw meat.
But it turns out they were stealthy enough not to be spotted by the enemy (something we somalis lack when it's comes to war strageties ) Kitfo is a traditional cuisine yet we Somalis overexeggerate it.
The futuh al habesha was an Arab conquest commanding Somali and Afar footsoldiers under the Islamic banner but we love lying to ourselves and re-write what's seems to be appropriate enough to boost our dead egos.
We have severe negativity towards this region and we blame our own failures and mistakes on them
It seems like they are the bogeyman just like Arabs cursing Jews but it were the Arabs whom are imcompetent and brainless imbeciles .
Same can be applied to Somalis who cling on to this ridicoulous thing.
As ive noticed in this forum some SSPOTers give us a clear indication that they are likely to suffer from severe OCD or delusional disorders
A weird obsession
An average Ethiopian living in densely hinterland or rural areas barely know where the Somali regional state is located let alone Shitehole *******a
They mind their own bussinessess since they have to deal with abject poverty they seemed to be basically live their lives without that particular curse tyet dumb fools or stupid politicians in Mogadishu are using the popular word Ethiopia on every Somali Media Based Network on a daily basis we mention Ethiopia more than Somalia .

Its only the Oromos and fewer high ranking officials that seem to have little knowledge of the Somalis due to interactions in Kilil 5 and the Wajaale border with Somaliland
1/3 of 100 million Ethiopians have little knowledge of Somalis and if you asked them in the streets of Addis Ababa(except from bole michale) , Awassa, Arba Minch, Gonder, Jimma,Bahir Dar and Nazaret the word Somali is insignificant and some cannot even locate Jigjiga/Godey (regional capitals).

Can we let go of this since Djibouti a semi Somali state are using their brains for economic gains

Ask the people of jigjiga if they rather want to join a backwards tribal arab loving fragile state known as Somalia or want to remain in the federation
they can secede as every regional state has a right to declare article 39
but it looks like the ONLF lost trust and faith with Mainland Somalis.
since the illegal apprehension of Qalbi Dhagax and many prominent figures

Not even the Kenyan Somalis want to be part of your mischieves.

You got puppets and crooked politicians embedded with tribalism ruining Somalinimo running to GULF States to prostitute more terror fundings
Some are even endorsing extremism and condoning AL SHABAAB's cowardice actions
It's your government who's a failure your tribal enclaves who are failing you
The 4.5 system that's dividing you to small segments
Not Ethiopia
Ethiopia has 5 million somalis who are contributing members of in their region least thing they want to do is avoid tribalism sectarianism and ways to eleviate the dire poverty common in many regional states .

Iska Ilow somaliweyn
Somalia is a Shitehole that lost its statehood and central government due to nacasyo acording to UN no sovereignty should be annexed even if it's shitty as Somalia.
The reality must be addressed if Siad Barre wasn't a hotheaded figure nor had rushed towards the border with his military high on khat , the state would have functioned in an alternative universe , unfortunately that's not the case it was their foolishness that led to this never ending tragedy
Some are bitter and miserable at somali cafes living in the past .
It's individuals like them that are indoctrinating the younger generations we are competent enough to solidify somali unity but it's all sheeko sheeko since each tribe hate one and another tribalism is inevitable in many certain ways due to the every day aspect of our lives we live and feed on tribalism.

This is what destroying the sovereignty not neighbouring states
We need to snap out from the sheeko xariir fairytales and back to reality to restore our sovereignty

if they don't know about somalia and don't care about K5 and northwestern province, they should give it back and go run around in their shitholes, we could care less what a clueless average habesha thinks anyways there a conquered people with no amount of significance its there government that has all say in their country, common citizens are worthless