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Why are Somalis such ferocious carnivores?

Radical

Joined: Sep 16, 2025
As a vegan I feel locked out and culturally abandoned. I'm sitting at home and it's just canjeero and black tea, I go to a restaurant and the waiter asks if I want suqaar, dheylo or calooley with a side of beer gheel. I ask for anything excluding meat, they either kick me out or offer some plain canjeero, great more canjeero, I say "what do I eat with this canjeero?" and they bring out my worst nightmare. The white soup from boiled meat

I know meat is at the forefront of most cultural cuisines, but why must we make it our entire personality. Take a look at Kenyans, so ruthlessly feral they throw away zero parts, you'll see them serving testicles, brains and chicken feet, they chow down on everything. Ethiopians love meat so much they can't wait for it to cook and devour raw, Yet both groups offer significantly better vegan options than Somalis. I might've starved to death without them.
 

cunug3aad

3rdchild · Alaa baruur le maahi badan le
The animal was made for me to eat it :rejoice:it is the way of the one who has sharaf i am above the animal :childplease: hiindi does put the animal above them this is why they are flawe they go against the natural order They are queer
 

El Nino

Cabsi cabsi
VIP
We need to capture you amigo and force feed you some succulent bariis iyo hilib. Maybe you even need an IV drip full of beef broth to fully cure you from the scourge of veganism.

You are malfunctioning, your somali cells are screaming in agony for hilib. I recommend a heavy diet of canjeero iyo beer for mornings, canjeero iyo maraq for lunch and a light canjeero iyo suqaar meal for the evening. The canjeero should satisfy the vegan in you until the hilib has cured from veganism.
 

NidarNidar

♚kṯr w ḫss♚
VIP
Complete opposite of me, too much carb options, if I go out
We need to capture you amigo and force feed you some succulent bariis iyo hilib. Maybe you even need an IV drip full of beef broth to fully cure you from the scourge of veganism.

You are malfunctioning, your somali cells are screaming in agony for hilib. I recommend a heavy diet of canjeero iyo beer for mornings, canjeero iyo maraq for lunch and a light canjeero iyo suqaar meal for the evening. The canjeero should satisfy the vegan in you until the hilib has cured from veganism.
Get rid ot the baariis and just keep the hilib.
 

Radical

Joined: Sep 16, 2025
“As a vegan I feel locked out and culturally abandoned” :susp: you know better than to walk in with this buuq
Your testosterone is low
We need to capture you amigo and force feed you some succulent bariis iyo hilib. Maybe you even need an IV drip full of beef broth to fully cure you from the scourge of veganism.

You are malfunctioning, your somali cells are screaming in agony for hilib. I recommend a heavy diet of canjeero iyo beer for mornings, canjeero iyo maraq for lunch and a light canjeero iyo suqaar meal for the evening. The canjeero should satisfy the vegan in you until the hilib has cured from veganism.
The animal was made for me to eat it :rejoice:it is the way of the one who has sharaf i am above the animal :childplease: hiindi does put the animal above them this is why they are flawe they go against the natural order They are queer

I'm sorry for being environmentally conscious, i'm sorry for caring about the planet and wanting better living conditions for subsequent generations.

If you want to eat and take untill there's nothing left, to continuously fuel a destructive Capitalist system that rewards selfishness, then be my guest. Just stop feeling offended when others have principles and look towards a better future.
 

Khal Mah Oma

Drink shaah
The question I want to ask is why are Somalis now into carb foods and refined sugars? Our forefathers were into as you said “carnivores diet” but now we’re carbs addict. We downgraded big time.

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As a vegan:hova::holeup: I feel locked out and culturally abandoned. I'm sitting at home and it's just canjeero and black tea, I go to a restaurant and the waiter asks if I want suqaar, dheylo or calooley with a side of beer gheel. I ask for anything excluding meat, they either kick me out or offer some plain canjeero, great more canjeero, I say "what do I eat with this canjeero?" and they bring out my worst nightmare. The white soup from boiled meat

I know meat is at the forefront of most cultural cuisines, but why must we make it our entire personality. Take a look at Kenyans, so ruthlessly feral they throw away zero parts, you'll see them serving testicles, brains and chicken feet, they chow down on everything. Ethiopians love meat so much they can't wait for it to cook and devour raw, Yet both groups offer significantly better vegan options than Somalis. I might've starved to death without them.
Nigga you might as well come out the closet :stevej:
 

Shimbiris

بىَر غىَل إيؤ عآنؤ لؤ
VIP
Stop being Vegan, walaalkay.

1) It’s not good for your health long-term:

It’s not just B12. You also cannot get adequate Omega-3s (EPA and DHA), or the bioactive forms of vitamins that the body actually absorbs and uses: Vitamin A (retinol), Vitamin D3, Vitamin K2 (MK-4), and Vitamin B6 (P5P), along with things like creatine, taurine, and carnitine that are virtually absent in plants. Those last three are not considered "essential" but, believe me, they make a difference. The fats are also skewed in the wrong direction, with too many unstable PUFAs compared to more stable SFAs and MUFAs, making inflammation more likely over time. Then there are the antinutrients: for example, 80-90% of the calcium in calcium-rich plants isn’t absorbable because of oxalates, and the iron is the less useful “elemental” form instead of heme-iron, which humans ideally absorb. Even plant proteins are far less bioavailable compared to animal proteins.

If you’re coming off a typical modern processed diet (SAD-type) or even the modern Somali diet, and you quit smoking or other bad habits at the same time, you may feel better, sometimes even great, for the first 1–2 years as a kind of semi-detox. But long-term, the nutrient deficiencies, fiber overload, antinutrients, excess carbs, and imbalanced fats inevitably catch up. This is why the vast majority of vegans eventually quit: health problems.

To be honest, the only way to sustainably-ish do veganism long-term is to do a processed food vegan diet (seed oils, carby foods, mock animal foods etc) and those will long-term give you the same morbidities as living on a modern processed diet (excess fat gain->metabolic dysfunction->t2 diabetes etc), just now spiced with nutrient deficiencies.

2) It is not actually great for the environment:

You’re essentially clearing entire biodiverse ecosystems, wiping out all the plants and animals that once lived there, in order to sustain vast monocrop fields. These monocultures are ecologically fragile, deplete soils, and require heavy chemical input. On top of that, there’s the global transport network and labor exploitation behind maintaining the unrealistic year-round diversity of plant foods that modern diets demand, with produce shipped in from every corner of the world.

And contrary to the popular narrative, this kind of agriculture still kills animals on a massive scale. Snakes, rodents, insects, birds, and countless other creatures are poisoned, crushed, or shredded by machinery—hundreds to thousands per acre per year. The “bloodless” idea of plant-based food doesn’t hold up when you factor in the collateral death built into the system.

Even the carbon-footprint argument is often misrepresented. Agriculture as a whole, plant and animal combined, accounts for less than 10% of global emissions. The lion’s share comes from heavy industry, energy production, and large-scale manufacturing. Much of the environmental blame shifted onto farmers and ranchers is really just corporate misdirection to take attention away from industries with far bigger impacts.


---------------

Bottomline, if you truly care about your health and the environment, walaalkay, the most powerful step is to work toward owning your own homestead (raising your own chickens, goats, sheep, or cattle etc) and producing enough surplus to support your local rural community. By practicing regenerative methods like rotational grazing, crop rotation, and composting, you can restore and enrich the local topsoil while providing real, nutrient-dense food to others.

In the meantime, the best choice is to support your local farmers, both livestock and crop producers, whom you can see are stewarding the land responsibly after you've done your research on them. And if you can afford it, minimize or avoid industrial agriculture products altogether. That way you invest in healthier food, stronger communities, and ecosystems that can sustain future generations and are not a slave to Monsanto or whatever.

I'll leave it at that. I have no real interest in a back and forth about veganism. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents for my fellow Somali and brother in Leftism and Dar el-Islam.
 
As a vegan I feel locked out and culturally abandoned. I'm sitting at home and it's just canjeero and black tea, I go to a restaurant and the waiter asks if I want suqaar, dheylo or calooley with a side of beer gheel. I ask for anything excluding meat, they either kick me out or offer some plain canjeero, great more canjeero, I say "what do I eat with this canjeero?" and they bring out my worst nightmare. The white soup from boiled meat

I know meat is at the forefront of most cultural cuisines, but why must we make it our entire personality. Take a look at Kenyans, so ruthlessly feral they throw away zero parts, you'll see them serving testicles, brains and chicken feet, they chow down on everything. Ethiopians love meat so much they can't wait for it to cook and devour raw, Yet both groups offer significantly better vegan options than Somalis. I might've starved to death without
I’m convinced meat is a status symbol back home
 

Radical

Joined: Sep 16, 2025
Stop being Vegan, walaalkay.

1) It’s not good for your health long-term:

It’s not just B12. You also cannot get adequate Omega-3s (EPA and DHA), or the bioactive forms of vitamins that the body actually absorbs and uses: Vitamin A (retinol), Vitamin D3, Vitamin K2 (MK-4), and Vitamin B6 (P5P), along with things like creatine, taurine, and carnitine that are virtually absent in plants. Those last three are not considered "essential" but, believe me, they make a difference. The fats are also skewed in the wrong direction, with too many unstable PUFAs compared to more stable SFAs and MUFAs, making inflammation more likely over time. Then there are the antinutrients: for example, 80-90% of the calcium in calcium-rich plants isn’t absorbable because of oxalates, and the iron is the less useful “elemental” form instead of heme-iron, which humans ideally absorb. Even plant proteins are far less bioavailable compared to animal proteins.

If you’re coming off a typical modern processed diet (SAD-type) or even the modern Somali diet, and you quit smoking or other bad habits at the same time, you may feel better, sometimes even great, for the first 1–2 years as a kind of semi-detox. But long-term, the nutrient deficiencies, fiber overload, antinutrients, excess carbs, and imbalanced fats inevitably catch up. This is why the vast majority of vegans eventually quit: health problems.

To be honest, the only way to sustainably-ish do veganism long-term is to do a processed food vegan diet (seed oils, carby foods, mock animal foods etc) and those will long-term give you the same morbidities as living on a modern processed diet (excess fat gain->metabolic dysfunction->t2 diabetes etc), just now spiced with nutrient deficiencies.

2) It is not actually great for the environment:

You’re essentially clearing entire biodiverse ecosystems, wiping out all the plants and animals that once lived there, in order to sustain vast monocrop fields. These monocultures are ecologically fragile, deplete soils, and require heavy chemical input. On top of that, there’s the global transport network and labor exploitation behind maintaining the unrealistic year-round diversity of plant foods that modern diets demand, with produce shipped in from every corner of the world.

And contrary to the popular narrative, this kind of agriculture still kills animals on a massive scale. Snakes, rodents, insects, birds, and countless other creatures are poisoned, crushed, or shredded by machinery—hundreds to thousands per acre per year. The “bloodless” idea of plant-based food doesn’t hold up when you factor in the collateral death built into the system.

Even the carbon-footprint argument is often misrepresented. Agriculture as a whole, plant and animal combined, accounts for less than 10% of global emissions. The lion’s share comes from heavy industry, energy production, and large-scale manufacturing. Much of the environmental blame shifted onto farmers and ranchers is really just corporate misdirection to take attention away from industries with far bigger impacts.


---------------

Bottomline, if you truly care about your health and the environment, walaalkay, the most powerful step is to work toward owning your own homestead (raising your own chickens, goats, sheep, or cattle etc) and producing enough surplus to support your local rural community. By practicing regenerative methods like rotational grazing, crop rotation, and composting, you can restore and enrich the local topsoil while providing real, nutrient-dense food to others.

In the meantime, the best choice is to support your local farmers, both livestock and crop producers, whom you can see are stewarding the land responsibly after you've done your research on them. And if you can afford it, minimize or avoid industrial agriculture products altogether. That way you invest in healthier food, stronger communities, and ecosystems that can sustain future generations and are not a slave to Monsanto or whatever.

I'll leave it at that. I have no real interest in a back and forth about veganism. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents for my fellow Somali and brother in Leftism and Dar el-Islam.
The health argument has been debunked already. I've been vegan for most my life, I feel fine

Anything grown and mass produced is bound to carry certain flaws. No such thing as ethical consumption. That doesn't mean we shouldn't minimize the destructive elements involved. And almost everything you listed applies to agriculture

Where are you getting that less than 10% number on global emissions? Literally every study has it at like 25% to 35% percent.

Let's not forget Agriculture is a big reason why there's a shortage of fresh water supplies, Which is something our people are in desperate need of. At least more than hilib gheel
 
Aabe used to watch health docs about the issues with the modern diet, and younger me wanted to become a vegean. Hooyo slapped me and said they are only talking about western diets, and the Somali diet is healthy, and if I didn’t eat it, I wouldn’t get food.
 

Shimbiris

بىَر غىَل إيؤ عآنؤ لؤ
VIP
The health argument has been debunked already. I've been vegan for most my life, I feel fine

Anything grown and mass produced is bound to carry certain flaws. No such thing as ethical consumption. That doesn't mean we shouldn't minimize the destructive elements involved. And almost everything you listed applies to agriculture

Where are you getting that less than 10% number on global emissions? Literally every study has it at like 25% to 35% percent.

Let's not forget Agriculture is a big reason why there's a shortage of fresh water supplies, Which is something our people are in desperate need of. At least more than hilib gheel

My bad, I was speaking of the United States where indeed plants+animals is about sub 10%. Most livestock and plant emissions worldwide are from developing countries that haven't gotten efficient enough yet and even then, way outstripped by other emission sources and way over-stated. Below you will find a UC Davis professor, by far the US and the world's premier ag department go into how misleading all the Vegan stats out there are. Already linked it and another video I'd recommend. They provided sources of course and they go into the stuff you're saying about water as well:



As for the rest, like I said... not interested in a back and forth. I've been in vegan circles for years and anyone who claims they're "healthy" for over 3-5 years on it is pretty much lying or delusional somehow. Never not seen this be the case, sadly. Sorry but biochemistry is biochemistry. Won't go back and forth with you beyond what I said. Take it or leave it. Your life.
 

Radical

Joined: Sep 16, 2025
Aabe used to watch health docs about the issues with the modern diet, and younger me wanted to become a vegean. Hooyo slapped me and said they are only talking about western diets, and the Somali diet is healthy, and if I didn’t eat it, I wouldn’t get food.
I remember being forced fed as a kid as well. It's honestly quite sad that self-reflection and any slight deviation from norms get shut down so quickly within Somali households. You can even see elements of it here in this very thread
 

Radical

Joined: Sep 16, 2025
My bad, I was speaking of the United States where indeed plants+animals is about sub 10%. Most livestock and plant emissions worldwide are from developing countries that haven't gotten efficient enough yet and even then, way outstripped by other emission sources and way over-stated. Below you will find a UC Davis professor, by far the US and the world's premier ag department go into how misleading all the Vegan stats out there are. Already linked it and another video I'd recommend. They provided sources of course:



As for the rest, like I said... not interested in a back and forth. I've been in vegan circles for years and anyone who claims they're "healthy" for over 3-5 years on it is pretty much lying or delusional somehow. Never not seen this be the case, sadly. Sorry but biochemistry is biochemistry. Won't go back and forth with you beyond what I said. Take it or leave it. Your life.
All good man. I'll check it out later.
 
Stop being Vegan, walaalkay.

1) It’s not good for your health long-term:

It’s not just B12. You also cannot get adequate Omega-3s (EPA and DHA), or the bioactive forms of vitamins that the body actually absorbs and uses: Vitamin A (retinol), Vitamin D3, Vitamin K2 (MK-4), and Vitamin B6 (P5P), along with things like creatine, taurine, and carnitine that are virtually absent in plants. Those last three are not considered "essential" but, believe me, they make a difference. The fats are also skewed in the wrong direction, with too many unstable PUFAs compared to more stable SFAs and MUFAs, making inflammation more likely over time. Then there are the antinutrients: for example, 80-90% of the calcium in calcium-rich plants isn’t absorbable because of oxalates, and the iron is the less useful “elemental” form instead of heme-iron, which humans ideally absorb. Even plant proteins are far less bioavailable compared to animal proteins.

If you’re coming off a typical modern processed diet (SAD-type) or even the modern Somali diet, and you quit smoking or other bad habits at the same time, you may feel better, sometimes even great, for the first 1–2 years as a kind of semi-detox. But long-term, the nutrient deficiencies, fiber overload, antinutrients, excess carbs, and imbalanced fats inevitably catch up. This is why the vast majority of vegans eventually quit: health problems.

To be honest, the only way to sustainably-ish do veganism long-term is to do a processed food vegan diet (seed oils, carby foods, mock animal foods etc) and those will long-term give you the same morbidities as living on a modern processed diet (excess fat gain->metabolic dysfunction->t2 diabetes etc), just now spiced with nutrient deficiencies.

2) It is not actually great for the environment:

You’re essentially clearing entire biodiverse ecosystems, wiping out all the plants and animals that once lived there, in order to sustain vast monocrop fields. These monocultures are ecologically fragile, deplete soils, and require heavy chemical input. On top of that, there’s the global transport network and labor exploitation behind maintaining the unrealistic year-round diversity of plant foods that modern diets demand, with produce shipped in from every corner of the world.

And contrary to the popular narrative, this kind of agriculture still kills animals on a massive scale. Snakes, rodents, insects, birds, and countless other creatures are poisoned, crushed, or shredded by machinery—hundreds to thousands per acre per year. The “bloodless” idea of plant-based food doesn’t hold up when you factor in the collateral death built into the system.

Even the carbon-footprint argument is often misrepresented. Agriculture as a whole, plant and animal combined, accounts for less than 10% of global emissions. The lion’s share comes from heavy industry, energy production, and large-scale manufacturing. Much of the environmental blame shifted onto farmers and ranchers is really just corporate misdirection to take attention away from industries with far bigger impacts.


---------------

Bottomline, if you truly care about your health and the environment, walaalkay, the most powerful step is to work toward owning your own homestead (raising your own chickens, goats, sheep, or cattle etc) and producing enough surplus to support your local rural community. By practicing regenerative methods like rotational grazing, crop rotation, and composting, you can restore and enrich the local topsoil while providing real, nutrient-dense food to others.

In the meantime, the best choice is to support your local farmers, both livestock and crop producers, whom you can see are stewarding the land responsibly after you've done your research on them. And if you can afford it, minimize or avoid industrial agriculture products altogether. That way you invest in healthier food, stronger communities, and ecosystems that can sustain future generations and are not a slave to Monsanto or whatever.

I'll leave it at that. I have no real interest in a back and forth about veganism. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents for my fellow Somali and brother in Leftism and Dar el-Islam.
How does the British Broadcasting Corporation fit into all this, sxb?
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