Why are Somalis so adamant on not being seen as Arabs?

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

Lol, what a bunch of bullshit. This dumb myth is so widespread.

Levantines have very little European crusader ancestry. They have about as much blood from Niger, Chad, South Sudan as they do from European Crusaders.

The history of African gene flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews - PubMed

Previous genetic studies have suggested a history of sub-Saharan African gene flow into some West Eurasian populations after the initial dispersal out of Africa that occurred at least 45,000 years ago. However, there has been no accurate characterization of the proportion of mixture, or of its...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'' Levantine groups harbor 4%-15% African ancestry with an average mixture date of about 32 generations ago''

32 generations = about 800 years.

I think tht user meant arabs lineages not autosomal

 

[stophatingtho]

Arab is a fake ass identity that is extremely watered down. It is almost akin to Hispanic, totally meaningless.

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at this point arab means mixed

 

[stophatingtho]

yes which somalis are not so anybody claiming to be arab is a joke.

if you don't have any semitic blood in you I doubtly think you can claim being arab ...lots of ethiopians could claim it, something my dear somalis couldn't

 

[stophatingtho]

cacs claiming hispanic because they don't like being called white is some of the most delusional shit I've ever seen

 

[stophatingtho]

funny cuz idk of any Ethiopians who claim Arab blood including the Muslims one whereas Somalis believe their tribe is descended from a made-up arab man.

because they know nothing about their ancestry ''I'm pure habesha'' ''I'm cushitic'' ''Arabs are related to us'' it's everything I hear from them

 

[stophatingtho]

aw yes the so called pure cushitics

 

[Juke]

funny cuz idk of any Ethiopians who claim Arab blood including the Muslims one whereas Somalis believe their tribe is descended from a made-up arab man.

Then that's your own ignorance. Canfar, Adari, Argobbas all have Arab muslim fairy tales too. Christian Habesha are also very aware of their old Yemeni ancestry.

 

[Juke]

not as prominent as somalis who literally genocided each other based on whatever wannabe arab tribe they come .

Lol tribal warfare would be the same no matter who they claim as the mythological patriarch.

 

[codewebsduh]

Diasporas are overcompensating for the colonization of the Somali mind. Over the last 30 years Somalis have enjoyed the beautiful aspects of Arabic culture such as suicide bombers, sheikhs who flaunt 4 wives and grown men who use water to cure "black magic".

The day Somalis rise up and strive to create heaven on earth instead of begging for death in their mosques is the day we will positively add to the human condition.

 

[Juke]

maybe

It's a theme in pastorial nomadic groups fighting for land in harsh climates. Through history the Bedouins, Mongol/Turks, Maasai, etc. all were crazy fighters

 

[Kant123]

Somalis should learn Arabic and claim ana Arab. Everyone thinks we're Ayrabs anyway, might as well take the benefits of it.

There is 0 benefits of claiming Arab anywhere on Earth

More benefit claiming to be black instead, which Somalis should do in the west

 

[Viscount]

I know of a Lebanese guy who is relatively pale, yet has 4A hair.

I know a Egyptian who has green eyes and pale skin with 4b hair, it probably was a genetic throwback from his Congolese maternal ancestor.

 

[Kurobecky]

I’m on this Twitter page called Arab world and it showcases beautiful pictures and it posted a picture from Somalia and so many people responded saying we aren’t Arab. Mind you this page also posts Pakistan and chad as well before. Question I have to ask is what’s wrong with being seen as Arab? We have more cultural similarities with them and even our language is mostly Arab loan words. We are very similar and a lot of Somalis are living in Arab countries. You lot also don’t like being seen as black, so why not accept the Arab label?

I see as Arabs and Somalis share a common distant ancestor. Somalia was Muslim before most of the Middle East and the Maghreb was. Somalis aren’t hairy, Arabs have larger noses and prognathism, and bulkier. Like how German Shepherds and wolves are very closing related but GS are their own species. Yes, German Shepherds are the most genetically related to wolves of all the domestic dog breeds. It’s the reason why wolf hybrids are usually always German Shepard mixes.

 

[Kurobecky]

There is 0 benefits of claiming Arab anywhere on Earth

More benefit claiming to be black instead, which Somalis should do in the west

Meh, anyone can be black. Bill Clinton considered black because he smokes weed and plays the saxophone. I think Somalis should be their own thing. Somalis are too different phenotypically and culturally from other Africans, sans Berbers and other Cushitic people