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Why are honeymoons popular in the west?
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It's a halal desire, so carry on brother.
I don't want to debate, I'm not interested in debating. Many of the scholars have warned against debating and I agree with them. I give my view and you agree or you don't.
I just want to express my thoughts. It just seems disturbing to me. Firstly, tourism to my understanding is not something that is good.... I think it's actually haraam. Maybe not according to the people here but according to the actual scholars.
I mean... spending tons of money... and hanging out in some tourist area... buying some stuff with the name of whatever tourist spot you went to... coming back... it just seems decadent to me.
But the other thing is... people might not believe this but I actually do somewhat believe in romance- within limits. Not the sort of extreme romanticism that gets promoted. But I do somewhat believe in romance.
And I think we do have this culture of commercialization of everything including romance. Should it really be all about spending large amounts of money in a frivolous manner to impress the woman? I come from humble roots and I don't like this kind of luxuriousness.
Of course the man needs to provide. That's a real right of the woman. But making up rights that don't exist and then demanding for them is too far. It isn't about the money. I just don't believe in what seems to me this excessive commercialization of romance. I don't think that's real romance. I don't think real love and romance should be about spending large amounts of money in a frivolous manner to seek approval.
I know a woman who is in love with some dope fiend guy from the streets. I have told her she's crazy and I utterly disapprove. But I've seen them together and they genuinely love each other. I don't agree with their relationship at all but- how are they able to have love and romance but I'm supposed to believe romance is about the frivolous spending of large amounts of money?
Of course I don't encourage anyone to get in a haraam relationship with some dope fiend from the streets but that is not my point. There are couples who are having a great romantic time in a hut somewhere. I'm not going to write any romantic fiction here describing anything romantic but what real love and romance is like- I can't imagine it being some touristy conspicuous consumption... standing in a tourist shop looking at over-priced nick-nacks and being sold overpriced waterbottles... that does not even strike me as romantic. Standing and looking at some tourist attraction "oooh wow it's a statue.." or ancient ruins or something. It's just not my idea of what's romantic.
I mean... Romeo and Juliet. Did Romeo take Juliet on a cruise ship to Jamaica and hang out in some tourist spot? They probably hung out in Romeo's backyard or something and then they committed suicide together. Yet this story is considered the ultimate in romance. There has to be something more to romance than just materialism and consumption.
I just want to express my thoughts. It just seems disturbing to me. Firstly, tourism to my understanding is not something that is good.... I think it's actually haraam. Maybe not according to the people here but according to the actual scholars.
I mean... spending tons of money... and hanging out in some tourist area... buying some stuff with the name of whatever tourist spot you went to... coming back... it just seems decadent to me.
But the other thing is... people might not believe this but I actually do somewhat believe in romance- within limits. Not the sort of extreme romanticism that gets promoted. But I do somewhat believe in romance.
And I think we do have this culture of commercialization of everything including romance. Should it really be all about spending large amounts of money in a frivolous manner to impress the woman? I come from humble roots and I don't like this kind of luxuriousness.
Of course the man needs to provide. That's a real right of the woman. But making up rights that don't exist and then demanding for them is too far. It isn't about the money. I just don't believe in what seems to me this excessive commercialization of romance. I don't think that's real romance. I don't think real love and romance should be about spending large amounts of money in a frivolous manner to seek approval.
I know a woman who is in love with some dope fiend guy from the streets. I have told her she's crazy and I utterly disapprove. But I've seen them together and they genuinely love each other. I don't agree with their relationship at all but- how are they able to have love and romance but I'm supposed to believe romance is about the frivolous spending of large amounts of money?
Of course I don't encourage anyone to get in a haraam relationship with some dope fiend from the streets but that is not my point. There are couples who are having a great romantic time in a hut somewhere. I'm not going to write any romantic fiction here describing anything romantic but what real love and romance is like- I can't imagine it being some touristy conspicuous consumption... standing in a tourist shop looking at over-priced nick-nacks and being sold overpriced waterbottles... that does not even strike me as romantic. Standing and looking at some tourist attraction "oooh wow it's a statue.." or ancient ruins or something. It's just not my idea of what's romantic.
I mean... Romeo and Juliet. Did Romeo take Juliet on a cruise ship to Jamaica and hang out in some tourist spot? They probably hung out in Romeo's backyard or something and then they committed suicide together. Yet this story is considered the ultimate in romance. There has to be something more to romance than just materialism and consumption.
Amber
A blessed human
that guy's Salafi
I think I'm better off with Mufti Menk
NordicSomali
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I don’t have any problem. Why should there be a problem?
I knew it.
www.muslimmarriageguide.com
Can’t Buy Love: Materialism Kills Marriages – Islam gives The Remedy !
Can’t Buy Love: Materialism Kills Marriages - Islam gives The Remedy ! - Muslim Marriage Guide
Excerpts from :http://news.yahoo.com/cant-buy-love-materialism-kills-marriages-161433917.html http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2011/10/religion/islam/cant-buy-love-materialism-kills-marriages-islam-could-help http://www.soundvision.com/Info/Islam/marriage.ideal.asp Focusing too heavily on the “for...
www.muslimmarriageguide.com
Honeymoons aren’t expensive. What is expensive and an issue in Muslim countriesI knew it.
Can’t Buy Love: Materialism Kills Marriages – Islam gives The Remedy !
Can’t Buy Love: Materialism Kills Marriages - Islam gives The Remedy ! - Muslim Marriage Guide
Excerpts from :http://news.yahoo.com/cant-buy-love-materialism-kills-marriages-161433917.html http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2011/10/religion/islam/cant-buy-love-materialism-kills-marriages-islam-could-help http://www.soundvision.com/Info/Islam/marriage.ideal.asp Focusing too heavily on the “for...
are the wedding halls and Mehr. A cheap ticket to Turkey isn’t breaking the bank. A £20,000 hall a night is.
You’re stretching now. I know you want to prove a point, but you’re missing the mark
When it comes to Muslim communities.
Also, why are you not mentioning that one of those white wedding dresses is the same as a 5 day honeymoon plane ticket? Isn’t that materialistic?
You’ll ignore this, but you’re being disingenuous when you bring up price but refuse to comment on white wedding dresses which everyone knows are expensive and is a White English tradition.
NordicSomali
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If you want to stay on your London rainy slum then do that, the rest of us will choose beautiful beaches on a sunset
I agree that honeymoons to other countries is decadence. But restaurants? I think restaurants is ok every now and then. But I do think it would be virtuous if you and your wife avoided restaurants.
never said that.
As I said, I am interested in the history of it, where it orignated, what people from other cultures used to do back in the day.
Also I want to know if its neccesary for people to go on a honeymoon, meaning if their spouse doesn't want to go on one will they just not marry them
nowhere in my original post did I say it is wrong or even state my personal opinion
I am genuinely interested
strange how @Qeelbax mentioned living in babylon then chatgpt mentions this
Honeymoons and babylon seem to have something in common.
this is what I thought it originated from, upper class white ppl
yh they are also meant to spend their entire lives together aswell
the meaning of that is they got 7 days to consumate the marriage, and if you have other wives, you cannot go to them for 7 days.
Also spending 7 nights with your wife is just a given in marriage, it has nothing to do with going on a vaacation for hundreds even thousands of pounds
we acting going on vacation after marriage to Babylon?
nobody said otherwise dawg
bruh basra stop with your vulgar messages
there is a reason why everyone ignores u
interesting.
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