Why are honeymoons popular in the west?

[Angelina]

Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan said in al-Mukhallas al-Fiqhi (2/581) have stated that:

“Nowadays, many wealthy young people travel after marriage to foreign, kaafir countries to spend the honeymoon there, as they call it, but in fact it is a “poison moon”, because it is a haraam month which leads to many evils, such as taking off hijab, wearing the clothes of the kuffaar, watching the bad deeds and foolish customs of the kuffaar, and visiting places of leisure, until the woman comes back influenced by these bad ways and looking down on the ways of her Muslim society. This journey is extremely haraam and those who do it must be stopped from doing it. The guardian of the woman should also prevent her from taking this journey. End quote. Yes, if the couple travels someplace for a holiday, and there are no evils in the place they go to, or they take a journey that is approved of in Islam, such as traveling to do ‘umrah, for example, there is nothing wrong with that. “

The bit red clearly shows that if a couple aren’t doing anything haram, then it’s fine.

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Really isn’t the same as a Muslim Western couple going to Dubai or Turkey or any other Muslim country for a honeymoon in which the wife is still observing hijab and eating halal food ect.

 

[Qeelbax]

btw...

Here a part of a fatwa on honey moon of Sheikh ibn 'Othaymeen:



if you have a different view, you're free to that but there's no need to go around painting me as an extremist because I have a perfectly legitimate view

You're miserable

 

[Qeelbax]

Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan said in al-Mukhallas al-Fiqhi (2/581) have stated that:

“Nowadays, many wealthy young people travel after marriage to foreign, kaafir countries to spend the honeymoon there, as they call it, but in fact it is a “poison moon”, because it is a haraam month which leads to many evils, such as taking off hijab, wearing the clothes of the kuffaar, watching the bad deeds and foolish customs of the kuffaar, and visiting places of leisure, until the woman comes back influenced by these bad ways and looking down on the ways of her Muslim society. This journey is extremely haraam and those who do it must be stopped from doing it. The guardian of the woman should also prevent her from taking this journey. End quote. Yes, if the couple travels someplace for a holiday, and there are no evils in the place they go to, or they take a journey that is approved of in Islam, such as traveling to do ‘umrah, for example, there is nothing wrong with that. “

A fatwa is made for a people, not a whole ummah since they are based in ikhtilaaf. These fatwas are both clearly meant for the Khaleeji Elite... How can someone that has not lived in a land long enough to learn it's customs and nuances derive a fatwa? And lastly, in Islam, as long as there is no haram thing involved in spending time privately with one’s wife after marriage, it will be permissible.

There's also nothing wrong with traveling to a non muslim country either

 

[jemappelle]

But talking about sucking the joy out of life. Do you have to question everything? It’s like saying why do people go to restaurants for fun ect.

Why do people go to resturaunts for fun?
I only go to a resturaunt to honor a guest coming to my house or to talk more with my teachers or people I just met to get to know them better, Then I never go out again to a resturuant, its more of a one time special occasion thing, the thing that bewilders me about this society is how obsessed they are with eating out all the time, its like they are in love with food, not to mention how much money it costs aswell, just for 2 hours of eating.

 

[jemappelle]

Seriously? It isn’t mandatory. It’s something couples like to do so that they’re not distracted. Also, traveling brings you closer to your spouse as that when you get to know someone on a deeper level. When couples can’t afford to travel, they tend to opt out.

Thats interesting but I would like to know more about the history of it, different cultures takes on it, etc..

 

[jemappelle]

Do you have to question everything?

Yes I do, until the day I die.
I'll stop questioning once I am dead

 

[Angelina]

Why do people go to resturaunts for fun?
I only go to a resturaunt to honor a guest coming to my house or to talk more with my teachers or people I just met to get to know them better, Then I never go out again to a resturuant, its more of a one time special occasion thing, the thing that bewilders me about this society is how obsessed they are with eating out all the time, its like they are in love with food, not to mention how much money it costs aswell, just for 2 hours of eating.

Why can’t you honor the guest home? Why can’t you invite those people to your house like people used to do?

 

[jemappelle]

The West is obsessed with love and I think Christianity is the reason, something about love being the highest commandment and loving your enemy. The West talk about about love more than any other place and honeymoons and public display of love are just a few manifestations of that.

So whats your opinions on honeymoons?

 

[jemappelle]

btw...

Here a part of a fatwa on honey moon of Sheikh ibn 'Othaymeen:



if you have a different view, you're free to that but there's no need to go around painting me as an extremist because I have a perfectly legitimate view

Sheikh ibn uthaymenn has a intersting view on this topic, but I would like to know other scholars views, the culture history of it, how it originated, implications of it, before I take into account ibn uthaymeen RAs opinion,

 

[jemappelle]

Why can’t you honor the guest home? Why can’t you invite those people to your house like people used to do?

Ok so thats an interesting question, most of the time guests come to my house to eat, sometimes if they don't have time to come to my house, and are too far away, we meet up at a resturaunt, I personally hate going to resturuaunts, but honoring the guest is more important.

Also alot of people when they go to different countries like to try out different foods, or different cities, so the guest may tell me if I know any good places to eat, so I can do 2 in one and meet up with them at a resurant they want to go to.
I pick where and what I am going to do based on the situation at hand, it isn't black and white.

 

[Qeelbax]

Why do people go to resturaunts for fun?
I only go to a resturaunt to honor a guest coming to my house or to talk more with my teachers or people I just met to get to know them better, Then I never go out again to a resturuant, its more of a one time special occasion thing, the thing that bewilders me about this society is how obsessed they are with eating out all the time, its like they are in love with food, not to mention how much money it costs aswell, just for 2 hours of eating.

Why nit? Nobody is taking you to a 5 star Michelin restaurant, so eating at a restraint once in awhile isn't expensive at all.

 

[jemappelle]

There's also nothing wrong with traveling to a non muslim country either

Well I am sry qeelbax buttttttt........

 

[jemappelle]

Why nit? Nobody is taking you to a 5 star Michelin restaurant, so eating at a restraint once in awhile isn't expensive at all.

I don't see the point, I have food at home

 

[Qeelbax]

Sheikh ibn uthaymenn has a intersting view on this topic, but I would like to know other scholars views, the culture history of it, how it originated, implications of it, before I take into account ibn uthaymeen RAs opinion,

RA as in Radhillahu anhu? You know he's from our time right?

 

[jemappelle]

RA as in Radhillahu anhu? You know he's from our time right?

Raheemahulalah

 

[Qeelbax]

I don't see the point, I have food at home

okay? You go to a restaurant to eat food you don't have and that you like. Nobody is asking you to eat out but you don't need to question everyone.You can stay at home and eat your chicken nuggets.

 

[jemappelle]

You can stay at home and eat your chicken nuggets.

I don't eat chicken nuggets thats disgusting I eat proper healthy food

 

[jemappelle]

You go to a restaurant to eat food you don't have and that you like. Nobody is asking you to eat out but you don't need to question everyone.Y

I do need to question everyone for my own sanity

 

[Qeelbax]

Well I am sry qeelbax buttttttt........

but what? You can travel to non muslim countries and you can travel for tourism, I'm from America, there is no such a thing as temptations when you're already from Babylon.

 

[jemappelle]

From my perspective going on honeymoons to other countries and going to resturaunts is just decadence