Why are deni and madobe labeled traitors for their close ties to uae and kenya, respectively but farmajo isnt called out for his close ties to Ethiopia? No derailing please just give your opinions respectfully. My answer is that the majority of somali shacab think the president can do whatever he wants even if it is the very thing they hate when others do it. It comes from a place of ignorance and that’s why i am very pessimistic about somalia.
Why are deni and madobe labeled traitors?
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Rooble44
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It isn't hypocrisy, the president and government of Somalia represent everyone, you can't go around making back deals with other countries without coming to an agreement with the president.
Because of qabilism.
You have to understand that Farmajo has the mandate to tell Kenya to leave Somalia but he doesnt want to spoil his image with Kenya cos of having vested personal interest in Kenya like properties etc.
As for PL they are the only people that expose the corruption of Xamar.
Only in Xamar do we have SNA that is mooriyaan.
Only in Xamar do we have individuals with 100s of heavily armoured men like Muse Saudi and Co.
Only in Xamar would you see Police and Military exchange fire on a monthly basis.
Then we have Jimcaale who controls everything in Xamar he is a govt within a govt and illegally controls and profits from monopolising telecommunications etc.
Instead of weeding out the massive corruption in Xamar the corrupt failed govt in Xamar wants to shift focus of their incompetence by trying to blame others as spoilers like JL or PL
You will come to understand how money meant for floods in Hirshabelle was stolen by the central government in Xamar.
The Xamar regime have made a mockery out the FG states they created like Konfurgalbeed who are directly controlled and money earmarked for development are given to cronies within Villa ugandishu like the case of the Marka/Barawe airport which exposed the pandemic corruption within Villa Ugandishu.
What Villa Ugandishu wants is centralised corruption and nepotism.
You have to understand that Farmajo has the mandate to tell Kenya to leave Somalia but he doesnt want to spoil his image with Kenya cos of having vested personal interest in Kenya like properties etc.
As for PL they are the only people that expose the corruption of Xamar.
Only in Xamar do we have SNA that is mooriyaan.
Only in Xamar do we have individuals with 100s of heavily armoured men like Muse Saudi and Co.
Only in Xamar would you see Police and Military exchange fire on a monthly basis.
Then we have Jimcaale who controls everything in Xamar he is a govt within a govt and illegally controls and profits from monopolising telecommunications etc.
Instead of weeding out the massive corruption in Xamar the corrupt failed govt in Xamar wants to shift focus of their incompetence by trying to blame others as spoilers like JL or PL
You will come to understand how money meant for floods in Hirshabelle was stolen by the central government in Xamar.
The Xamar regime have made a mockery out the FG states they created like Konfurgalbeed who are directly controlled and money earmarked for development are given to cronies within Villa ugandishu like the case of the Marka/Barawe airport which exposed the pandemic corruption within Villa Ugandishu.
What Villa Ugandishu wants is centralised corruption and nepotism.
Exactly! Thank you for making this thread. Notice how the same b!tches in here like to complain about Kenya’s interference in Somalia’s affairs and the south but they don’t say a single word when it’s Ethiopia doing the same
Before N&N, every Somali hated Ethiopia and was calling for it’s collapse, now Nabar iyo Naxdin convinced it’s bots that the Ethiopia before isn’t the “same” as Ethiopia today because of some dirty Oromo named Abiy (Who has been unleashing Oromo militia’s on Somalis in Galbeed)
The truth is, both Ethiopia and Kenya are our traditional and historic enemies. Ethiopia is more of a threat since they are an African power, even more powerful than Kenya! we been fighting them for centuries and are they are now a regional power but nevertheless both Ethiopia and Kenya are our enemies and should be treated as such.
Before N&N, every Somali hated Ethiopia and was calling for it’s collapse, now Nabar iyo Naxdin convinced it’s bots that the Ethiopia before isn’t the “same” as Ethiopia today because of some dirty Oromo named Abiy (Who has been unleashing Oromo militia’s on Somalis in Galbeed)
The truth is, both Ethiopia and Kenya are our traditional and historic enemies. Ethiopia is more of a threat since they are an African power, even more powerful than Kenya! we been fighting them for centuries and are they are now a regional power but nevertheless both Ethiopia and Kenya are our enemies and should be treated as such.
The question was for the neutral or those who dont share clan with the president. I wish it was just clan but that doesn’t explain all the ardent farmagio supporters who cuss out ahmed and deni calling them traitors lol. They really dont see the irony which means they subconsciously believe that the president is above the law and he is exempt from the same laws that is supposed to govern everyone else. This emboldens someone like farmagio because he knows he has the support of the people regardless of what he does.
i mean how else can a sitting president use foreign soldiers to rig local elections in his own country and the people not only give him pass but call out others on treason. It is flabbergasting!
He created a cult walahi. If he told them to commit mass suicide some will do it. This is why people should support ideas instead of individuals because idea stay the same always.Exactly! Thank you for making this thread. Notice how the same b!tches in here like to complain about Kenya’s interference in Somalia’s affairs and the south but they don’t say a single word when it’s Ethiopia doing the same
Before N&N, every Somali hated Ethiopia and was calling for it’s collapse, now Nabar iyo Naxdin convinced it’s bots that the Ethiopia before isn’t the “same” as Ethiopia today because of some dirty Oromo named Abiy (Who has been unleashing Oromo militia’s on Somalis in Galbeed)
The truth is, both Ethiopia and Kenya are our traditional and historic enemies. Ethiopia is more of a threat since they are an African power, even more powerful than Kenya! we been fighting them for centuries and are they are now a regional power but nevertheless both Ethiopia and Kenya are our enemies and should be treated as such.
If Farmajo stays on for another term Somalia would be like in 1991.
Qoor qoor is an ex warlord
Umar finish is an ex warlord
Then you have N&N claimming the era of warlodism is over.
Facts! Ethiopia is our enemy till Qiyamah, so is Kenya. Wallahi For the life of me, I cannot figure out how any Somali would suddenly choose to love our greatest enemy Ethiopia
We have fought wars and countless battles against them for centuries. Ethiopia wanted to undermine Somalia gaining independence. Ethiopia has contributed to destroying our nation. Ethiopia has committed countless abuses against Somalis, inside And outside Somalia. Ethiopia has massacred Somalis countless times. Ethiopia currently occupies Galbeed. Ethiopia has sabotaged Somalia a billion countless times and has violated our sovereignty and internal affairs. But according to Nabar iyo Naxdin bots, suddenly we should start loving Ethiopia because Abiy Ahmed is a friend of Xaarmaajo
These filthy Xabashi -buckets should just claim a different ethnicity, I don’t consider them Somali no more. What a disgrace!
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Ethiopia and Kenya both are our enemies but Ethiopia isnt bombing innocent Somalis nor is she destroying telecom towers. Ethiopia has also not publicy disputed Somalia's coastal EEZ. Kenya shall continue to suffer as her main export of khat has been shut out by the great government of Somalia.
Cabudwaaq is part of Ethiopia.
Ethiopia does commit attrocities in Somalia but are all thrown under the carpet by the local admins.
For example the killing of macawisley by Ethiopians.
The shooting of planes in Somalia air space and killing Somalis citizens in it.
The illegal incursion of non Amisom Ethiopian forces.
The illegal killing of Somali protestors in Baidoa.
Amd many more unless you are turning a blind eye.
Ethiopia just less than two decades ago killed 1000s of somalis and displaced millions.
Gedo is highly fortified region ran by Ethiopians there is no place in Somalia that has more foreign concentration of soilders than in Gedo.
Ethiopian soilders didn't bring their wives so we know they engage in rape.
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Didn’t Ethiopia invade Baidoa and killed innocent people? Don’t they have groud troops currently occupying Somalia (Gedo, Hiiraan etc)? Didn’t Ethiopia massacre innocent people during their invasion in the south? Bro, their countless crimes against Somalis are known, both currently and historically. Retarded Nabar iyo Naxdin bots have a hard time trying to rationalize their bullshit.
Why do you think Ethiopian is in somalia? Also what about the people Ethiopia killed in hamar when abdulahi yusuf was using them? Unless you are willing to forget what kenya is doing today in gedo in 15 years time why forget and completely ignore that Ethiopia was doing that and worse in Mogadishu 15 years ago?
*Just a Minor correction - Cabudwaaq is in Somalia but borders Ethiopia
Other than that everything you said was facts. I got tired watching Nabar iyo Naxdin bots trying to rationalize this bullshit. How TF did our worst enemy Ethiopia managed to convince these many Somalis that they are their friends and they should trust them
Ethiopia is a UAE proxy but somehow their allies but PL is traitous for having good relations with UAE.
That 3 billion helped them out of a hard currency crisis too.
Yet their allies against the qaran dumis and shisheeye.
That 3 billion helped them out of a hard currency crisis too.
Yet their allies against the qaran dumis and shisheeye.
If you guys accusing AY AUN for Ethiopia. Then who bring Amisom and Kenya to Somalia?. You guys saying we not qabilist but you are the hardcore. Like someone telling you to listen to xarmaajo that failed to rule two blocks in one city lool. Are we crazy to listen to losers like you!.
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When you against xaramaajo, to them you are traitor.
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Ethiopia managed to build a bunker 18 kms inside Hiiraan where they planted their flag. They also successfully control Baay,Bakool and especially the Gedo region without any opposition nor noise from the GOv. They have 1 of the most biggest bases and largest boots in Somalia. 2/3 of their accountable forces in the country are Non AMISOM. Also if you watched the New shishkabab released video many Somalis in the video majority elderly will tell you the crimes these Amxaaros committed in the country. I don’t like nor support Terrorists but I’m all for the Karbaash 
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