Why 4.5 Sucks

[DR OSMAN]

I am 'tribal' but not for reasons for selecting people to power because it effect my 'cv' in the market place when there is no results on my project, I separate my job and my biases. I am only tribal to 'motivate' and 'drive' me because I love my family and land and history. There is no shame in that. Whatever works for people to find that drive to succeed.

But if you want your tribe to win power every time just for the sake of saying 'my tribe is ruling', also expect your not choosing the best person for the job and your going to get nations that look like this for 50 years.


No scientific culture that's why. The only reason the west is winning on knowledge is their using 'science' nothing more nothing less. They don't use likes, dislikes, opinions.

So don't cry why your not progressing, your not using the methodology the world uses. You are bound to stay in chaos, no structure, and just fadhi ku dirir while your nation inherits that. You spent your life trying to impress people not actually leave something behind before u turn into dirt.

 

[DR OSMAN]

It's really sad that somalis do not see them as 'shareholders' do u select the CEO based on performance and experience in your 'investment' or if your apart of the board? or based on TRIBE? they operate fine 'scientifically in business', why not 'govt'? you need to use the same concept you use in business as u do in govt as it's essentially the same thing as a corporation owned by taxpayers and they want their shares JUSTIFIED and should get the best candidate for the position so at least in that 4 years we are left with no more 'flooding' you achieved on mighty 'outcome' see. Rather then spending 50 years electing leaders and your still eating shit

 

[DR OSMAN]

Yo @Teeri-Alpha ppl r laffing at us always when they see our leaders not understand the fundamental concepts of a government yet running one. It's shareholder, taxpayers are paying for it so govt delivers results. It's not corporation like a bank based on profits, it's corporation based on savings, u want to return as much savings back to the taxpayer yet complete the tasks needed by the civilians. When u see our leaders sitting in expensive seats like this, that's not savings. WTF, his going against the principle of a govt, your supposed to do your job with at least taxpayer disruption that is the goal. Either that u need strong justification for more taxes by proving how it will cost less over time then doing nothing.

 

[Younes Osman]

The 4.5 system is the elephant is the room when it comes to Konfurta somaliyeed politics especially in regards to the fragile Qabil relations. Its practically like a fixed system where only a president can be only from the D and H blocks which alienates the greater population as a whole who are not from those respective communities. There is a reason why throughout history from 1960-91 there never was a Dir, Isaaq or even a Konfurta Minority as a president. But, I do acknowledge in a few occasions that the prime minsters were my fellow clansman i.e Omar Arte and Egal AUN.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The 4.5 system is the elephant is the room when it comes to Konfurta somaliyeed politics especially in regards to the fragile Qabil relations. Its practically like a fixed system where only a president can be only from the D and H blocks which alienates the greater population as a hole who are not from those respective communities. There is a reason why throughout history from 1960-91 there never was a Dir, Isaaq or even a Konfurta Minority as a president. But, I do acknowledge in a few occasions that the prime minsters were my fellow clansman i.e Omar Arte and Egal AUN.

U know what the shame is imagine there was an 'einstein' among the dir/isaaq and we lost him because of this stupid 4.5 who could've changed the whole economic or scientific direction of Somalia it takes just one person wallahi, wallahi I feel like starting to export niggas in 'revenge' he would be worth 100 million cause even the 'thug' is worth 2 million on body parts. Wallahi I can organize Australia to sponsor my organs on the ground of 'povery alleviation' and 'moral grounds'. They just want u to ensure it's healthy, gone thru the australian checks framework, and it wasn't sourced thru murder or illegal and family consent. I can set up a structure to achieve those and have my warehouse ready in bosaso and start 'recycling niggas' lets at least get something back for them wasting our time with leaders and ministers and workers who possibly have the IQ of a 10 year old in the western world if tested.

I am being honest with u, I want the best man for the job bro cause I want something after he leaves for the ppl taxpayer money plus their donor funds, cause he will die and go to dirt the legacy will stay ma garatay.

 

[Younes Osman]

U know what the shame is imagine there was an 'einstein' among the dir/isaaq and we lost him because of this stupid 4.5 who could've changed the whole economic or scientific direction of Somalia it takes just one person wallahi, wallahi I feel like starting to export niggas in 'revenge' he would be worth 100 million cause even the 'thug' is worth 2 million on body parts. Wallahi I can organize Australia to sponsor my organs on the ground of 'povery alleviation' and 'moral grounds'. They just want u to ensure it's healthy, gone thru the australian checks framework, and it wasn't sourced thru murder or illegal and family consent. I can set up a structure to achieve those and have my warehouse ready in bosaso and start 'recycling niggas' lets at least get something back for them wasting our time with leaders and ministers and workers who possibly have the IQ of a 10 year old in the western world if tested.

I am being honest with u, I want the best man for the job bro cause I want something after he leaves for the ppl taxpayer money plus their donor funds, cause he will die and go to dirt the legacy will stay ma garatay.

The one thing I get confused about Gaddarbrisi unionists is that they want SL and konfurta to unite. But, there was 3 vice presidents and a president that hailed from that community.Inaddtion, there was non of that representation from 1960-91. One of the reasons why im not a unionist is the opportunity it gave to Issaq ,Dir clans and some Harti (unforuntaley a greater representation of ciise is required in the Hargeisa Political arena) to flourish without being somewhat restricted whilst Xamar restricted them politically.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Yo @Teeri-Alpha ppl r laffing at us always when they see our leaders not understand the fundamental concepts of a government yet running one. It's shareholder, taxpayers are paying for it so govt delivers results. It's not corporation like a bank based on profits, it's corporation based on savings, u want to return as much savings back to the taxpayer yet complete the tasks needed by the civilians. When u see our leaders sitting in expensive seats like this, that's not savings. WTF, his going against the principle of a govt, your supposed to do your job with at least taxpayer disruption that is the goal. Either that u need strong justification for more taxes by proving how it will cost less over time then doing nothing.

sadly only the old muslim leaders of old understood this, old as in the ancient khaliful rashiidun, like Abu Bakr, RAD, Umar, Ali, Uthman RA,

when muslims created kingdoms we became corrupt, this is why the americans kicked out the royal,

but having said that, i like what royalty has done today, today royalty is far more honest and long term vision than republicans, why? becaseu they have a reputation to protect, they must look after for more valuable things than just stealing, they must pass it on to their sons and grandsons, so ironically they are far more honest than republican leaders, because the royal will be here in 100 years time, his family, and so they must make a return to people,

this is why i prefer kingdoms, they must prove they can rule an provide and defend the nation/state, but one time leaders want as much money as possible as he know he will be gone in a few years

look at prince Andrew, his nephew william apparently hates him and got the queen to sack him on the weekend, no more royal duties for andrew, forced to retire, no republic will do this, the royal family want endurance, and no one can ruin the image or reputation of the nation,

royals have gone from having a very bad evil image to actually being seen as the last line of defence for the nation, their reputation is always at stake, this is why if you look at nations with royals, they are much richer, Sweden, Norway, denamrk, Malaysia, Brunei, UAE, etc much much safer, more stable, because they know if they get kicked out its over for their families will be killed,

if Saddam was a king, he would not be so stupid with his geo poltics, wasting men and money on fruitless 9 years war with iran and then kuwait and the gassing of kids,

if qadafi was a king, he would not be so stupid with his antics and irrational behaviours


we need to eliminate republicans and replace them with kings, easy for MJ and Ogaden since they have ancient royal house, but i dont know how it will work for somalis with no traditional royal houses or kingdoms,

 

[DR OSMAN]

sadly only the old muslim leaders of old understood this, old as in the ancient khaliful rashiidun, like Abu Bakr, RAD, Umar, Ali, Uthman RA,

when muslims created kingdoms we became corrupt, this is why the americans kicked out the royal,

but having said that, i like what royalty has done today, today royalty is far more honest and long term vision than republicans, why? becaseu they have a reputation to protect, they must look after for more valuable things than just stealing, they must pass it on to their sons and grandsons, so ironically they are far more honest than republican leaders, because the royal will be here in 100 years time, his family, and so they must make a return to people,

this is why i prefer kingdoms, they must prove they can rule an provide and defend the nation/state, but one time leaders want as much money as possible as he know he will be gone in a few years

look at prince Andrew, his nephew william apparently hates him and got the queen to sack him on the weekend, no more royal duties for andrew, forced to retire, no republic will do this, the royal family want endurance, and no one can ruin the image or reputation of the nation,

royals have gone from having a very bad evil image to actually being seen as the last line of defence for the nation, their reputation is always at stake, this is why if you look at nations with royals, they are much richer, Sweden, Norway, denamrk, Malaysia, Brunei, UAE, etc much much safer, more stable, because they know if they get kicked out its over for their families will be killed,

if Saddam was a king, he would not be so stupid with his geo poltics, wasting men and money on fruitless 9 years war with iran and then kuwait and the gassing of kids,

if qadafi was a king, he would not be so stupid with his antics and irrational behaviours


we need to eliminate republicans and replace them with kings, easy for MJ and Ogaden since they have ancient royal house, but i dont know how it will work for somalis with no traditional royal houses or kingdoms,

I prefer kingdom approach also as it provides that 'last line of defence' and also 'check n balance' on the 'state' which will have representative powers and be a 'servant' of the royal house who will 'watch' him that he doesn't do stupid shit and go all rambo like u said with saddam, gadafi, irir, etc. They simply don't understand the world they live in is run on a world order thru the UN, all nations are defined territorially, by sea, by air, by people. If u step out of that designation your technically a non state actor like the arabs are now with all their silly movements or SL or any 3rd worlder who thinks the system is going to change for the will of a few.

I have noticed Somali love 'power' unchecked, uncontrolled which means they want to be outside the 'structure of order', that leads to 'chaos' only like you constantly see in Somalia, they want to step outside 'defined order space' and expect some miracle will happen.

U know how many 'reviews' or 'approvals' we go thru just for one decision we make on the 'technology' kkkkkk. That is technology. Plus we got the 'queen' who is head of state and she has full powers of the 'state' if she sees there is 'disaster or national emergency' on the horizon. Australia has it's legal system for 'governance, civil, criminal' and various 'levels' of it depending where. So I don't see why Somalis fear a kingdom, they will enjoy the same rights as representative govt but not be head of state, they don't deserve that, waa nin 4 sano joggo, he ain't shit in the eyes of the people in comparison to our kings who were here for centuries and earned our respect this is their land and the power is still in their hands, the govt is functioning in 'symbolic' capacity and refuses to acknowledge it's ROLE in the people eyes, their trying to be something their not and it shows the world you didn't really set up your government representing the stakeholders of your nation like other countries and trying to 'create' another govt like siyad on them, the federal govt is no different wallahi, their attempting to have power when their not really the respected PEOPLE in the land.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Teeri-Alpha you know what suprised me is Sheikh Umal, I always adamant I hate Salafism. I listened to him one day out of curosity just to poke fun at how stupid and literal they are. Wallahi I was impressed by the dude, so I take it back. It depends on if their educated I think the scholars not so much the brand of islam they teach.

I was wrong for that, you need to listen to each individually and not dismiss the whole brand. It's like dismissing science all together over some philosophy u disagree with and yes there is many I disagree with, like that 'freud sigmund' Can't stand his psychological philosophy of it's all physical and chemical based the brain, that's like saying a laptop is physical but no operating system. I prefer carl jung who says we have physical and conscious. I could be quoting him wrong Freud but western psychology follows his line of thought

I like to read the philosophical direction of my studies because u know where their steering you before u complete reading the points supporting it.

 

[Farm]

The 4.5 system is the elephant is the room when it comes to Konfurta somaliyeed politics especially in regards to the fragile Qabil relations. Its practically like a fixed system where only a president can be only from the D and H blocks which alienates the greater population as a whole who are not from those respective communities. There is a reason why throughout history from 1960-91 there never was a Dir, Isaaq or even a Konfurta Minority as a president. But, I do acknowledge in a few occasions that the prime minsters were my fellow clansman i.e Omar Arte and Egal AUN.

Darood and Hawiye are the absolute majority so it makes sense why they lead Somalia....tell us when a non Dir/Isaaq can lead Somaliland.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Teeri-Alpha you know what suprised me is Sheikh Umal, I always adamant I hate Salafism. I listened to him one day out of curosity just to poke fun at how stupid and literal they are. Wallahi I was impressed by the dude, so I take it back. It depends on if their educated I think the scholars not so much the brand of islam they teach.

I was wrong for that, you need to listen to each individually and not dismiss the whole brand. It's like dismissing science all together over some philosophy u disagree with and yes there is many I disagree with.

Bro sheikh umal and Ogadens are not salafi, we are old school trational somali pure muslims with pure tawxiid, i hate these new labels created by arab and asians labelling people salafi, wahabi etc,

we Ogadens are masters of edcuation and islamic cilmi, alhamdulilah, no suprise there sicne we created somalinimo, gaby/poetry, literally created somali hisotry and gave it to somalis as our software, centruies ago we had no one using the somali card except us,

we Ogadens have the most fmaous shikhs, sheikh shibley, sheikh cali yusuf, sheikh al-somali, companion of sheikh al-albani

we have the mist educated famous somali sheikhs, this is because Ogadens deep down educate their kids, an Ogaden nomad camel herder centuries ago would settle down, get out the aqal hori, build the house and bring out loox, the tablet to teach his kids islamic lessons, how to read quran, how to pray, etc, and then move on and expand the Ogaden land pasture through force if neededm

we were geeljire but we Literally carried our cilmi/islamic books and kids were taught,

i am amazed when i met Ogadens from garisa and Ogadenia, they speak af arabic so well, so young and they learned this from a book inside africa, never been there, they know their cilmi, fresh minds, wallahi imagine if these kids were taught physics, building submarines, weapons, big pharma, satellites, they would be masters, we have a great gift for learning we somalis and a great memory since we have not been corrupted by music and alcohol and sex like bantus and aborigines,

the fact that Ogaden produced the most famous somali sheikhs, the best writers/poets centuries ago shows we love learning,

we need to obsesses about education and making sure each child is sent out different fields like jews, we cannot have every child becoming doctor, we need engineers, we need sofware geeks, we need metallurgical experts,

bro i was learning about the Manhattan project, every field of cilmi contributed, even mathematicians, metal experts, experts in wind resistance, engineers, economist, etc,


Do we have one somali rich dude who has ever funded kids studying a masters or PhD at unique fields? never, we need rich somalsi to sponsor fellowships like rich cadans dude, the scholar of so and so, his name will be carried on for aeons

but i know ONLF has secretly and quietly funded many boys and girls to study at top world universities, i remember we used to collect money as ONLF in London and we would link with US, Kenyan etc Ogadens and send money to a kid to study a certain field, in case he became useful even in 30 years time,

i remember we used to use ONLF centres in kenya for tuition and we were expected to teach, on weeks it was quran lessons and weekdays it was tuition for younger kids and we were expected to help and teach them, tutor them,

this is what we need, we only created the ONLF centres in UK after MJ, hawiye and 1door refused to create somali association as they fought over who will control it, so when they refused, Ogaden quietly opened up their own centres across the UK,

thank god somalis fought each other, we quietly created out own centres and funded it by raising money from ourselves,

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro sheikh umal and Ogadens are not salafi, we are old school trational somali pure muslims with pure tawxiid, i hate these new labels created by arab and asians labelling people salafi, wahabi etc,

we Ogadens are masters of edcuation and islamic cilmi, alhamdulilah, no suprise there sicne we created somalinimo, gaby/poetry, literally created somali hisotry and gave it to somalis as our software, centruies ago we had no one using the somali card except us,

we Ogadens have the most fmaous shikhs, sheikh shibley, sheikh cali yusuf, sheikh al-somali, companion of sheikh al-albani

we have the mist educated famous somali sheikhs, this is because Ogadens deep down educate their kids, an Ogaden nomad camel herder centuries ago would settle down, get out the aqal hori, build the house and bring out loox, the tablet to teach his kids islamic lessons, how to read quran, how to pray, etc, and then move on and expand the Ogaden land pasture through force if neededm

we were geeljire but we Literally carried our cilmi/islamic books and kids were taught,

i am amazed when i met Ogadens from garisa and Ogadenia, they speak af arabic so well, so young and they learned this from a book inside africa, never been there, they know their cilmi, fresh minds, wallahi imagine if these kids were taught physics, building submarines, weapons, big pharma, satellites, they would be masters, we have a great gift for learning we somalis and a great memory since we have not been corrupted by music and alcohol and sex like bantus and aborigines,

the fact that Ogaden produced the most famous somali sheikhs, the best writers/poets centuries ago shows we love learning,

we need to obsesses about education and making sure each child is sent out different fields like jews, we cannot have every child becoming doctor, we need engineers, we need sofware geeks, we need metallurgical experts,

bro i was learning about the Manhattan project, every field of cilmi contributed, even mathematicians, metal experts, experts in wind resistance, engineers, economist, etc,


Do we have one somali rich dude who has ever funded kids studying a masters or PhD at unique fields? never, we need rich somalsi to sponsor fellowships like rich cadans dude, the scholar of so and so, his name will be carried on for aeons

but i know ONLF has secretly and quietly funded many boys and girls to study at top world universities, i remember we used to collect money as ONLF in London and we would link with US, Kenyan etc Ogadens and send money to a kid to study a certain field, in case he became useful even in 30 years time,

i remember we used to use ONLF centres in kenya for tuition and we were expected to teach, on weeks it was quran lessons and weekdays it was tuition for younger kids and we were expected to help and teach them, tutor them,

this is what we need, we only created the ONLF centres in UK after MJ, hawiye and 1door refused to create somali association as they fought over who will control it, so when they refused, Ogaden quietly opened up their own centres across the UK,

thank god somalis fought each other, we quietly created out own centres and funded it by raising money from ourselves,

This had a profound impact how I view my thoughts, doubts, emotions. I never knew their was belief 'component' to it. The problem isn't the wiswaas, it's the fact u believe in it. So I divide my processes now into belief component which I neglected before. It has now made me look at my thoughts differently thanks to Sheikh Umal and it has changed my life.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Teeri-Alpha I wouldn't take the media so serious, a-lot of the stuff you see I am not sure how they get from ministers or presidents, it's so tight security wise inside departments, it makes no sense. They may get it on hear-say. I only listen to 'videos' of them speaking not 'written' sources. The dept knows 'media' tactic cuz they go back archives of 70s-80s and find 'patterns' in how media is used by govt to spot what your 'agenda' is and they calculate that as a factor of correlation. Like when the cold war was happening they look at how the media was used daily,weekly, monthly before the lead up to conflict, same with world war 2 kkkkk and they know what's REAL and what IS FAKE.