Yes i do with all the recourses at hand everyone will get some of that $$
Who wants to join a Somali secret society
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Yes i do with all the recourses at hand everyone will get some of that $$
The arabs do things differently the 10% is wealthy while the rest are working class or poor, with the exeption of the UEA but their population is small. With proper management in somalia every somali can atleast become an millionaire. We are talking about gas,oil,silver,uranium,wind energy, strategic ports and airport hubs. We have the recourses the only thing we need is management.
Management and security. So many of us want to go back and build something. But low IQ shabab has killed every skilled person who started something.
@Dr.Xayawaan If you're going to qashin my post at least have the courage to debate.
Al shabaab could be eradicated, they convice poor people to perform terroristic acts for heaven and money for the family. Set up an strong economy in the north while the soldiers liberate the south give the people an example of what they could get if they worked with the government. It will be brutal but that is the price to be paid to get rid of those fuckers. Bomb every base Al shabaab got AUN for the innocent people that may die. If you let them stay because of innocent people, you are giving them a chance to continue terrorising the nation. Or the innocent die close to Al shabaab or the innocent die in a terrorist attack. Wallahi we need a leader that is brutal enough to realise this and act upon it.
I'm not for innocent people dying but I agree we need strong leadership.
I am against also, however we have no choice. The somali people are still mad at each other and wont cooperate on destroying Al Shabaab bombing them is our only option. This is the only reason i applaud for the US. They bomb the shit out of Al shabaab weakened them in order for our and amisom troops to sweep in an capture the lands. If every tribal army and militia work togheter the job would be done in a couple of months. It is sadly the only option we got. Until the SNA is rebuild.
There's a difference between extreme qabilist and normal identification qabilist.
You're out here promoting the destruction of qabil and eradicating the identity of somalis completely?
Of course you deserve a qashin with your qashin westernized ideology.
Tribalism in the Middle East is still a big problem actually...there's also no peace between shiites and sunnis all over...
Qabil isn't going anywhere UNLESS Somalia allows other states to split aka SL and PL so that we can finally end the thirst for power and qabilist system. Once u let the major tribes rule themselves they won't have any other competition or qabil to abuse.
Splits between people of the same "tribe" or similar culture have happened before for reasons:
England+Scotland, Spain+portugal etc...
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That part of our culture is not very good and is the prime reason Somalia is in that degenerate condition. It's clear you value culture than growth and general well-being.
Culture is a mechanism for socialization that is utilized and molded for the sole purpose of survival and complimentary inclusion of people in a society so everything fits in a systematic congruence. But when it becomes a factor that causes problems, then there must be some debate on why it shouldn't be discarded or at least modified.
There's one thing to say that qabil is close to impossible to eradicate, and so we have to work with it in a way it can function in a modern political and economic framework, but to promote it is another.
Qabil has destroyed Somalis and brings 0 value. Continue being a second class citizen in the west while encouraging this nonsense.
Allah himself states that he created us humans in tribes.
يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقۡنَٰكُم مِّن ذَكَرٖ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلۡنَٰكُمۡ شُعُوبٗا وَقَبَآئِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوٓاْۚ إِنَّ أَكۡرَمَكُمۡ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ أَتۡقَىٰكُمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٞ
(Sahih International)
O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
-Sura Al-Hujurat, Ayah 13
The ones in the wrong are the people who pride themselves with qabiil, oppress and discriminate against others.
مَنْ قُتِلَ تَحْتَ رَايَةٍ عِمِّيَّةٍ يَدْعُو عَصَبِيَّةً أَوْ يَنْصُرُ عَصَبِيَّةً فَقِتْلَةٌ جَاهِلِيَّةٌ
Whoever is killed under the banner of blind following, who calls to tribalism or supports tribalism, then he has died upon ignorance.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1850, Grade: Sahih
يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقۡنَٰكُم مِّن ذَكَرٖ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلۡنَٰكُمۡ شُعُوبٗا وَقَبَآئِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوٓاْۚ إِنَّ أَكۡرَمَكُمۡ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ أَتۡقَىٰكُمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٞ
(Sahih International)
O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
-Sura Al-Hujurat, Ayah 13
The ones in the wrong are the people who pride themselves with qabiil, oppress and discriminate against others.
مَنْ قُتِلَ تَحْتَ رَايَةٍ عِمِّيَّةٍ يَدْعُو عَصَبِيَّةً أَوْ يَنْصُرُ عَصَبِيَّةً فَقِتْلَةٌ جَاهِلِيَّةٌ
Whoever is killed under the banner of blind following, who calls to tribalism or supports tribalism, then he has died upon ignorance.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1850, Grade: Sahih
Clearly you have zero comprehension skills, the extreme qabilists who form militia and discriminate based on qabil are the problem not the concept of qabil itself.
Qabil is a form of identification and preserves rich history within different clans.
Keep living in your lunacy if you think qabil we be eradicated , you self hater.
As for the secret society thing, wouldnt it be better and more effective if we had a better intelligence agency?
Then again who'd wanna work with the current government
Then again who'd wanna work with the current government
"Preserve rich history" yeah they did a fantastic job. Somalis in the west who have never been to Somalia fight because of qabil as well. Moderate or extreme. It's something we should keep to ourselves.
I won't answer back you're a hypocrite who doesn't understand the reality.
I value culture and general well being collectively while holding the belief that various clans can coexist peacefully.
Qabil wasn't an issue during the 70s and 80s cause it was kept under scrutiny and people held it in their chest instead of publicising it and using it as a means of discrimination against other Somalis.
It becomes a issue when people become extreme with it and used it to make decisions which effect everyone's security and well being.
The cause of Somalia's degeneracy is because idiotic extreme qabilist individuals infiltrating positions of power and using qabil as a tool.
Qabil in a general sense is not the problem its the people.
As for the secret society thing, wouldnt it be better and more effective if we had a better intelligence agency?
Then again who'd wanna work with the current government
There is no need to work with the government. It could be out of their network.
Do you really understand this verse?
It say شُعُوبٗا which means (folks) and then comes the وَقَبَآئِلَ (clan), even Allah knew Qabiil was stupid thing, so he putted it behind.
Walaal, I'm not a Quran expert, so I quoted what was written. What do you mean by allah knew it was stupid? Why would allah swt put something he dislikes in his holy book?
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